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post #4501 of 8104 Old 10-29-2012, 06:09 AM
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I continue to experience an occasional Darblet spontaneous reset to factory defaults, perhaps once every two-three weeks. Even before I notice that the display is at 100% Full Pop, I can see the green light blinking on the inside of the unit (the green light blinks only when factory defaults are invoked).

I have no clue what causes this. Anyone have any theories?
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I have original DARBLET and using it with an EPSON 5010 (3D).

Performance oustanding in every respect. It is in a permanent HDMI connection and
I use at 85% in green mode on with either a curved 100 inch or a120 inch roll down screen.

The better quality Blu-Ray and DVDs show the best Darbee improvement. Would not be without it.
I usually turn it on and off to reassure and confirm that it is ALWAYS an improved picture from
any source.

Using OPPO 93, LG200, Denon 2500 and Sony 790,

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Correct, what others in this forum have done is buy multiple Darblets and daisy chain them to get combinations of settings. The way it is set now with a single Darblet was probably done so you could easily compare how each mode differs at a given %.
that sounds incredible!!! LOL thanks
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I have original DARBLET and using it with an EPSON 5010 (3D).
Performance oustanding in every respect. It is in a permanent HDMI connection and
I use at 85% in green mode on with either a curved 100 inch or a120 inch roll down screen.
The better quality Blu-Ray and DVDs show the best Darbee improvement. Would not be without it.
I usually turn it on and off to reassure and confirm that it is ALWAYS an improved picture from
any source.
Using OPPO 93, LG200, Denon 2500 and Sony 790,
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hey friend i have a sony 790 and planning to buy the new oppo 103,do you think is a big jump on picture quality and sound? i just do blue rays not music or anything else.thanks for the help
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should i set my sony 790 to RGB and 10bit to work is best with the darbee?
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Personal preference. Both the Game and Pop modes crush some shadow detail (Game less so than Pop). Hi Def mode does not. This is more apparent and problematic the larger your screen.

Thank you Josh for your description and you (and Kris) are correct. I 'was' using POP mode for animation, but noticed the change in shadow detail, especially in darker scenes. I also noticed some kind of frequency noise in high contrast areas. HD mode is all I use now. 50 to 60% on non-animated content and 70 to 75% on animated content. Yes, running that high on animated is no problem at all, that I see. Simply amazing to watch.
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I am after dlp-like sharpness

I would add that I would prefer to describe the Darblet as adding clarity to the image rather than sharpness. Perhaps I'm splitting hairs though.
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I would add that I would prefer to describe the Darblet as adding clarity to the image rather than sharpness. Perhaps I'm splitting hairs though.

I think the word, 'clarity' is the correct way to describe this 'effect'.....the darblet is simply too advanced to be deemed as a 'sharpening tool'.....

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hey friend i have a sony 790 and planning to buy the new oppo 103,do you think is a big jump on picture quality and sound? i just do blue rays not music or anything else.thanks for the help
I do the same. Just watch movies in my HT on my ISF calibrated 65" Panasonic plasma. I was using the darblet with my Oppo 83 and noticed a considerable improvement in PQ (even my nephew noticed the increase in detail in the several films we watched). I just purchased a 103 (have had it about two weeks) and to my eyes, the PQ has improved again. I just watched Mimic two days ago (a film I have also watched on the 83) and there was a dramatic improvement in the black levels and color. Things seemed much more vivid to me. And the detail in those dark scenes in the subway and tunnels was very evident, again to my eyes. I think the most part of the improvement is the new player with the darblet pushing the PQ to a level that is even more pleasing.

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should i set my sony 790 to RGB and 10bit to work is best with the darbee?

I've had issues with my Darblets when I input 10 bit into them. With 8 bit and 12 bit I had no issues though.

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I've had issues with my Darblets when I input 10 bit into them. With 8 bit and 12 bit I had no issues though.

what kind of issues i put in 10bit to see what happend and nothing happend i did not see any difference in picture.
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I do the same. Just watch movies in my HT on my ISF calibrated 65" Panasonic plasma. I was using the darblet with my Oppo 83 and noticed a considerable improvement in PQ (even my nephew noticed the increase in detail in the several films we watched). I just purchased a 103 (have had it about two weeks) and to my eyes, the PQ has improved again. I just watched Mimic two days ago (a film I have also watched on the 83) and there was a dramatic improvement in the black levels and color. Things seemed much more vivid to me. And the detail in those dark scenes in the subway and tunnels was very evident, again to my eyes. I think the most part of the improvement is the new player with the darblet pushing the PQ to a level that is even more pleasing.

thanks for the input but i want to know the differences between the sony 790 and the oppo 103 in picture quality with the darbee. not the 83 vs 103 differences but your response is appreciated!! thanks!!
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I have original DARBLET and using it with an EPSON 5010 (3D).
Performance oustanding in every respect. It is in a permanent HDMI connection and
I use at 85% in green mode on with either a curved 100 inch or a120 inch roll down screen.
The better quality Blu-Ray and DVDs show the best Darbee improvement. Would not be without it.
I usually turn it on and off to reassure and confirm that it is ALWAYS an improved picture from
any source.
Using OPPO 93, LG200, Denon 2500 and Sony 790,
gil:)
Few questions -
1) Ever experienced picture blackouts in 3D that some of us have described with 5010? I am guessing - Not!
2) What type is your HDMI cable? How long?
3) Whether Darblet is near projector or near media player in your HDMI chain?
4) Color & HDMI range settings?
5) Media player output resolution and frame-rate?

Asking because I am trying to isolate the cause of 3D blackouts.
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what kind of issues i put in 10bit to see what happend and nothing happend i did not see any difference in picture.
The picture would end up being compressed. It could also be an incompatibility with my DVDO DUO in 10 bit mode. I keep it in 12 bit mode anyway since that is the mode it was in when professionlly calibrated.

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thanks for the input but i want to know the differences between the sony 790 and the oppo 103 in picture quality with the darbee. not the 83 vs 103 differences but your response is appreciated!! thanks!!

You would be better served to post in the OPPO 103 owner's thread in our Blu Ray Player forum. You "may" find ppl that have switched from the Sony 790 to the Oppo 103...otherwise posting here is a "shotgun" approach. Posting in the OPPO you know most own the OPPO 103 player (who are posting and reading that thread)...then you percentage chance of someone who previously owned the Sony is at least comsolidated to OPPO owners.

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According to heat...it gets warmer when using 3d...I've added heat sink to main chip just in case...(aluminum heat sink glued to chip with arctic silver5 compound glue)....felt though the chip beside gets pretty hot too..probably add cooling to that one also...

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You would be better served to post in the OPPO 103 owner's thread in our Blu Ray Player forum. You "may" find ppl that have switched from the Sony 790 to the Oppo 103...otherwise posting here is a "shotgun" approach. Posting in the OPPO you know most own the OPPO 103 player (who are posting and reading that thread)...then you percentage chance of someone who previously owned the Sony is at least comsolidated to OPPO owners.


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I have a Sony VPL VW60, it projects onto a 130" DIY 2.35:1 screen with a Panamorph 380 a-lens.
Sony PS3 for blu-ray, Motorola DCH3416 for comcast cable.
Currently have a Denon 4308CI, on order is replacement 4520CI.
Very simple:
My PJ is 5 years old now, I'm waiting to upgrade "when the time is right" new PJ, and came across the Darbee vision darblet in another thread.
I did a search on "vw60" in this thread but did not impressions on it.
What can I expect it to do for me?
Sorry for not reading all 150 pages, I'm overwhelmed busy now with 4 kids, life at work, yada-yada.
So I appreciate the fellow AVS'er's helping advise me.

May not work with your Cable box M 3400 Series.

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So I won't know if it works until I buy and then try it in my basement?
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Is there a FAQ that also includes know issues in this thread?
If so, point me there and I'll further educate myself.
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With most sellers, you have 15 or 30 days to try it. It's little, so return postage is no big deal (we're not talking about subwoofers here, after all).

Or convince a friend to get one.

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So I won't know if it works until I buy and then try it in my basement?
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Is there a FAQ that also includes know issues in this thread?
If so, point me there and I'll further educate myself.

I have a Moto DCX3400 on TWC and it works fine.

The only 'M' series I know of is the DCX3400-M and the 'M' stands for 'Multiroom'. It's the one they use for multiroom set ups.

Your DCH3416 is not a '3400', nor a 'M' series---that I know of.
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So I won't know if it works until I buy and then try it in my basement?
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It's impossible for a manufacturer of this type of electronic to have tried every device and every combination set-up to know if it works. In fact, some Cable/Satellite boxes do not work well with some TV's via HDMI to this time. There are handshake and other issues that are not known till reported. And sometimes the manufacturer as in this case is telling you outright it may not work. Anything past that is your decision as to trying it or not. I was disappointed when a Sub Woofer I bought would not come on and off with my Onkyo receiver, but another brand worked perfectly.
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With most sellers, you have 15 or 30 days to try it. It's little, so return postage is no big deal (we're not talking about subwoofers here, after all).
Or convince a friend to get one.
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Mike:
I look forward to your comments about the Darblet. Your setup is similar to mine. And I am eager to hear some definitive comments/critiques of how this device works with HD CRT RPTV before My Christmas buy. I appreciate your keen eye for details on this matter. I'm going to get the Darbee anyway. But your opinion will be greatly appreciated...once you take the plunge.
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Should be here Saturday (barring delays from the storm). Eager to experiment (as you well know!).


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I said I'd post a few pics, so here they are. First pic is without the Darblet, second is with the Darblet at 60% HD. I think I did a pretty good job of photographing what I actually see (love my Canon DSLR), so this is pretty much what a person who is considering this processor could expect. At first glance, it may seem subtle, but it is significant enough that I find it to make my movies look much nicer. It is totally worth it, imho. I'm sure there are better movies to show off the Darblet, but this is what I wanted to watch tonight and I felt motivated enough to take a few pics. I chose this shot because it shows how the Darblet seems to add constrast and clarity to Damon's hair and sweater - it's like I'm dialing in the focus on my projector better. Hopefully you notice it, too. Not only that, this all happens in real time, so a subtle still shot doesn't even do it justice.





If you right click each one and open each one in a new tab you can switch them much faster and see the difference much better. FWIW, I'm running an Optoma HD3300 with a HTB anamorphic lens projecting onto a DIY 2.35:1 screen painted onto drywall (143").

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Awesome photos, they clearly show the darbee in action. It does resolve detail without making the the image look less lifelike. And that's on an already sharp dlp projector! Great stuff. Thanks for taking the time to post photos. (Awesome screen by the way, I want to go 140")
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Indeed, for anyone still wondering, those photo's are good representation of the Darbee. Notice the sweater in the forefront, and the whiskers on the face.

And Airion got it exactly right, I would call it clarity.
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Fix/Update service is free and available to correct performance issues that we have a solution for.
Upgrades will be installed on not free basis and relate to significant improvements made to our core Visual Presence technology.
We are glad that we made the product re-programmable to solve the former.
There is nothing available for the latter right now, however as an IP development company we intend to have breakthroughs that we would like to make available to our customers.
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And how will we know or be notifed (since you have no registration) of any performace update?


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Post 4524 should be the definitive example of what using a Darbee does to your pq.Excellent work Blastermaster.I use Gaming at 45 for my smaller 55 inch Led and i get the same results

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@Blastermaster:

Exceptional photos! I clearly see the difference. The most distinctive exception to my eyes is the subtle but impactive difference in the far horizon scene. The lighting shift between the water and sky is simply awesome in the Darbee scene as compared to the non Darbee shot. Ditto with the waves. The best way to describe what I see in your shots is this. With Darbee the water seems to be accurately and naturally reflecting the light from the sky without unbalancing the sky's color. In the non Darbee shot, the water seems to be slightly skewing the color of the sky more toward the waters tint and hue. Based off of the way the light is reflecting off Matt Damon's face...and surrounding the other actor's head...that Darbee shot is what I would expect to see on the horizon if I was Matt Damon on that boat. In the Darbee shot, Damon borderline needs sunglasses. In the non Darbee shot...he does not.

I'm 1000% sold. I can't wait til Christmas gets here. This thing has even pushed Halo 4 to the backburner with me...A miracle indeed! I don't want to play it until I have my Darbee in line.
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Simply the best darblet user photos I have seen so far - BZ!

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