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post #6841 of 8784 Old 09-14-2013, 08:39 AM
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It's fine that the reviewer has a different opinion of the product than I personally do, but his statement that it works best with low-resolution sources and not very well at all with Blu-ray is misleading and potentially factually inaccurate. Those of us who've used the Darblet extensively know that it has better results the better the quality of the source image. The Darblet enhances visibility of details in the source. A high-quality source like Blu-ray has a lot of details to enhance. A low-quality source like DVD or broadcast TV doesn't give the Darblet much to work it, and so the Darblet has little effect on those. This review states otherwise, and therefore misinforms readers who might have otherwise considered buying the product (or who will now buy it believing that it magically makes crummy TV broadcasts look like stunning high defintion, only to inevitably come away disappointed that it doesn't actually do that).

Agreed Josh. Anyone who says the Darblet works best for low quality sources doesn't know what he's talking about and I wouldn't trust any review that gave such an impression.
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Agreed! Any enhancer can only enhance whatever data that is there to begin with. More detail = more the processor (any processor) can do a better job.

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I finally had a chance to install my Darblet purchased a few months ago into my setup and it works fine with my 30ft Redmere cable and a 6-foot cable from the Kinivo switch to the Darblet.

My problem is that I'm getting the magenta flash constantly every 10 seconds or so when the Kinivo HDMI switch is on the WDTV Live as a source but NOT when it's set to either my Oppo 95 or Xbox 360 so I don't think it's the switch.

I've tried re-starting the WDTV Live but no luck. It's currently set for 1080p 60hz setting, and the colour setting is auto. Is there anything else I can do to try to eliminate the constant magenta flashing?
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Set the WDTV to RGB Low.

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I still get what seem to be HDMI hand-shake issues with my Darblet in the chain. When I play Blu-Ray sometimes my center channel information is gone. I have to switch to another source (e.g. TV/cable box) and then switch back to Blu-Ray
to get sound correct. Never happened until I put the Darblet in the chain. I have a 50 foot HDMI cable going from my sources to the Darblet, then a 6 ft HDMI cable from the Darblet to the projector. I've also tried the Darblet at the other end of the chain (HDMI from sources to Darblet, out Darblet to 50 foot HDMI cable to projector) and had the same problem. It really pisses me off but it seems I'm stuck with this issue if I want to still
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I set the WDTV Live to RGB Low and don't have the magenta flash anymore instead it's now a black one at about the same rate, every 5 seconds or so...it also won't keep that setting after coming out of standby, reverting to auto. The magenta flash comes back only if the WDTV Live goes into stand-by mode but otherwise it's a black flash.

I tried resetting the HDMI range on my Epson 8350 from "expanded" to "normal" thinking that might somehow help (as you can see I'm a noob) and the black flashing did stop briefly for exactly one video file then it started up again as soon as I switched back to the home screen. I'm stumped....
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Just got my Darblet, it exceeded my expectations. HD is the only setting worth using in my opinion for gaming and blu-ray, 40% is the right amount for my tastes, on a show like Boardwalk Empire with a lot of older characters, anything more mottles the face and brings out wrinkles a bit too much. It impressed me the most with my Xbox 360, Splinter Cell Blacklist gets a huge improvement, the environments seem much more dimensional, the increase in detail is great. The real strength is in highlights and reflective surfaces, saw that a lot in the Dark Knight chase scene, and giving background, especially landscapes, more dimension. Not a big fan of this with my ATT Uverse, the quality just isn't high enough, it looks more artificial. I really like what this does for my TV.
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I still get what seem to be HDMI hand-shake issues with my Darblet in the chain. When I play Blu-Ray sometimes my center channel information is gone. I have to switch to another source (e.g. TV/cable box) and then switch back to Blu-Ray
to get sound correct. Never happened until I put the Darblet in the chain. I have a 50 foot HDMI cable going from my sources to the Darblet, then a 6 ft HDMI cable from the Darblet to the projector. I've also tried the Darblet at the other end of the chain (HDMI from sources to Darblet, out Darblet to 50 foot HDMI cable to projector) and had the same problem. It really pisses me off but it seems I'm stuck with this issue if I want to still
use the Darblet.

Hi Rich,
A Monoprice 8120 extender- important: with an ac adapter!- solved my handshake issues with a 35 foot Redmere hdmi cable length for my Darbee, Denon 4520 and Epson projector. Cheap to try and return if it doesn't work out.
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Coming in late on this discussion, I read the first few pages and also the last couple.

Just wondering though -- I've just purchased a WD Live TV device to play video files from a hard drive, and I wonder if there has been any mention of the Darblet being used with one of these.

The WD I have is not the one that only streams, it has a USB port to plug in an external HD.

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I have the same model of WDTV Live with the USB port on front and back and am experiencing the problems mentioned a few posts ago. This only occurred after inserting the Darblet into the setup. I'm hoping the others can suggest a possible fix....
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A Monoprice 8120 extender- important: with an ac adapter!- solved my handshake issues with a 35 foot Redmere hdmi cable length for my Darbee, Denon 4520 and Epson projector. Cheap to try and return if it doesn't work out.

Thanks, maybe I'll give that a try.

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I have the same model of WDTV Live with the USB port on front and back and am experiencing the problems mentioned a few posts ago. This only occurred after inserting the Darblet into the setup. I'm hoping the others can suggest a possible fix....

Right Alex now that you mention it I did read that, thanks.

Maybe if Larry is still following this thread he could give us some advice.

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It's fine that the reviewer has a different opinion of the product than I personally do, but his statement that it works best with low-resolution sources and not very well at all with Blu-ray is misleading and potentially factually inaccurate. Those of us who've used the Darblet extensively know that it has better results the better the quality of the source image. The Darblet enhances visibility of details in the source. A high-quality source like Blu-ray has a lot of details to enhance. A low-quality source like DVD or broadcast TV doesn't give the Darblet much to work it, and so the Darblet has little effect on those. This review states otherwise, and therefore misinforms readers who might have otherwise considered buying the product (or who will now buy it believing that it magically makes crummy TV broadcasts look like stunning high defintion, only to inevitably come away disappointed that it doesn't actually do that).

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Agreed Josh. Anyone who says the Darblet works best for low quality sources doesn't know what he's talking about and I wouldn't trust any review that gave such an impression.


I have been following Darbee for over 2 1/2 years and remember emailing them and giving them props within just a couple of days in that 1st week of the Darblet's release, and saying to them the better the source the better DVP's performance. I had an RS50 JVC at the time at 8.5' wide 16x9 image on a bright, unforgiving Hi Power screen. Spectacular when fed a pristine source, but can also show all the warts and blemishes of any less than great images. There is no question about this. (best results on a pristine source vs lower quality source material)
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The Darbee really does a lot to improve my MKV files, some of the best performance I've got out of the unit so far as noticeable differences go cool.gif
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Has anyone used the Darbee in conjunction with an OPPO 103 and if so what has been your experience? At Sharpness setting of +1 on the OPPO, the picture appears to brittle for me.

I run the 103 with a Denon 4311c into a Sony HW30 onto a 130" Jamestown Screen -- 40% HD for Blurays. Remarkable picture. And when viewing a good 3D Blu ray -- Spetacular. The Avengers was the first disc I ran and the effect is beyond words. After some reading I found that the Darbee process enhances 3D.

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Question: anyone experience the tv screen going black for a couple seconds when a tv commercials come on? Mine intermittently goes black when a commercial comes on, then it goes to the commercial. It goes black for just a couple seconds then back to picture. It may go black at the start of the commercial, but not when the commercial ends. Or vise versa. This happing to anyone else?

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Question: anyone experience the tv screen going black for a couple seconds when a tv commercials come on? Mine intermittently goes black when a commercial comes on, then it goes to the commercial. It goes black for just a couple seconds then back to picture. It may go black at the start of the commercial, but not when the commercial ends. Or vise versa. This happing to anyone else?

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I have a Tivo Premiere and Oppo 103 feeding into separate Darbee's that then feed a Lumagen Radiance which outputs to a 70X5. Previously had only one Darbee with same sources but located after Radiance then to 70X5. Never had a problem like you describe. Don't think the 70X5 is the problem. Try STB direct to Darbee and see if AVR is problem. Also make sure all HDMI cables are 6 ft. or longer. Good Luck.
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I have a SIM2 Lumis 3D-S and recently got it hooked up with an eeColor Pro CMS processor that supports 65x65x65 3D-LUT. The results are truly amazing, and even better than what I had from earlier with a Lumagen with 5x5x5x 3D LUT.

I have also had a Darbee in the chain up til now, between the Lumagen and the Sim2 projector, but find that it now actually decreases the picture quality when I have got the eeColor. Mostly it is about lag when fast panning etc I can see a clearer and sharper picture without the Darbee. It is not much, but to a point that it is noticeable so I decided to remove it.
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I picked one up and installed yesterday. There was a difference but it was slight at best. I went from 40% all the way up to 105% and yes it did work but i just dont think it works good enough for the 327.00 (shipped) asking price. seriously considering sending back.....Tested using blu ray via oppo-95...

So yes it works but man i was really expecting more...Anyone else with similar results? Everyone seems to be blown away and i was expecting to be also.

Am I missing something????
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I picked one up and installed yesterday. There was a difference but it was slight at best. I went from 40% all the way up to 105% and yes it did work but i just dont think it works good enough for the 327.00 (shipped) asking price. seriously considering sending back.....Tested using blu ray via oppo-95...

So yes it works but man i was really expecting more...Anyone else with similar results? Everyone seems to be blown away and i was expecting to be also.

Am I missing something????

What size is your display? What is the display's resolution? What is your angle of view?
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I picked one up and installed yesterday. There was a difference but it was slight at best. I went from 40% all the way up to 105% and yes it did work but i just dont think it works good enough for the 327.00 (shipped) asking price. seriously considering sending back.....Tested using blu ray via oppo-95...

So yes it works but man i was really expecting more...Anyone else with similar results? Everyone seems to be blown away and i was expecting to be also.

Am I missing something????

I agree. Sold my Drablet on eBay months ago. Good riddance.

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I picked one up and installed yesterday. There was a difference but it was slight at best. I went from 40% all the way up to 105% and yes it did work but i just dont think it works good enough for the 327.00 (shipped) asking price. seriously considering sending back.....Tested using blu ray via oppo-95...

So yes it works but man i was really expecting more...Anyone else with similar results? Everyone seems to be blown away and i was expecting to be also.

Am I missing something????

I agree. Sold my Drablet on eBay months ago. Good riddance.

May I ask a question? Why do you still frequent this forum then? And I'm not trying to start a argument or be mean or any of that. I just don't frequent forums of things I don't own or aren't interested in owning. If this question upsets you I apologize I'm just curious more than anything. Thanks

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Umm, I don't frequent the Drablet thread. If I want to look at overly processed images, I'd buy a Velveeta log and look at processed "cheese".wink.gif. Simply saw a question and gave an answer. I see you did not give an answer to his question. Interesting.

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Umm, I don't frequent the Drablet thread. If I want to look at overly processed images, I'd buy a Velveeta log and look at processed "cheese".wink.gif. Simply saw a question and gave an answer. I see you did not give an answer to his question. Interesting.

He did not provide enough information to provide an answer. I asked him more questions to clarify.

What display did you try the "Drablet" with? I'm just curious how different display types effect the end result.
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Umm, I don't frequent the Drablet thread. If I want to look at overly processed images, I'd buy a Velveeta log and look at processed "cheese".wink.gif. Simply saw a question and gave an answer. I see you did not give an answer to his question. Interesting.

He did not provide enough information to provide an answer. I asked him more questions to clarify.

What display did you try the "Drablet" with? I'm just curious how different display types effect the end result.

I think he was talking to me. I don't want an argument but you obviously do frequent here or how would you know of the question? rolleyes.gif

I didn't answer the question because I feel there is plenty of info already in this forum that it'd be redundant. But I will if it makes you happy.smile.gif I use HD 50% on a 159" inch screen at a seating distance of approximately 14' with a Mitsubishi HC6800 projector.
Made a huge improvement.

But I again am not looking for a argument so I'll drop it. Have a good day. And I'm being sincere not sarcastic. I say this because tone is hard to discern in written form and people have taken this wrong in the past.
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Hello...I have a 60 inch Sony KDS 60A3000 RPTV 1080x24 ...Its getting a little long in the tooth but still looks good....Viewing angle is straight on (sitting directly in front of the TV).....I messed with it for about an hour last night...Again I did see a difference but based on reviews and even the darblet website was expecting more "pop"
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Hello...I have a 60 inch Sony KDS 60A3000 RPTV 1080x24 ...Its getting a little long in the tooth but still looks good....Viewing angle is straight on (sitting directly in front of the TV).....I messed with it for about an hour last night...Again I did see a difference but based on reviews and even the darblet website was expecting more "pop"

Sorry, I asked "viewing angle" but I meant "angle of view". I notice most when sitting at 1 sw but notice some at 1.6 sw.
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