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post #6931 of 8059 Old 09-25-2013, 07:48 AM
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Since we bought a 70 inch tv for the bedroom we haven't been watching the 144 inch (projector) in the living room much. Last night we did though as I rented the new Star Trek on BD.

I cannot imagine watching the 144 inch now without the Darbee. If anything, I wish the 144 inch was higher def. It is a 1080P projector playing BD. That was all fine and dandy until..... Like ALL electronics, the wow wears away as technology gets better. I now know, without a doubt, that I want higher def if I'm to continue on with the HUGE screen thing. Until I can afford that, the Darbee is the trick. But I will be keeping my eyes on 4K LED projectors.

I also have a Darbee on the 70 incher and we love it. Funny thing is we never even knew we needed it until we had it - and we most definitely NEED it on the 144 inch projector where we never needed it before. Electronics have a way of doing that to you.

I would say that the bigger the screen the more the noticeable improvements are. And then there's those that don't see subtle differences in image quality. For those folks, it wouldn't be worth it. You know who you are. You're the ones still renting / watching DVDs. smile.gif
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Personally I wouldn't be interested. Why limit yourself to BD source? I want to run my HD-DVDs through it too as well as other things.

I agree. While it's great that the new Oppo will have the Darbee feature built in, the Darblet or Cobalt remain more versatile since one can run a Blu-ray player, HD-DVD, HD streamers or HD cable through either of them.

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^ +1

With convenience one often gives up versatility.
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I agree. While it's great that the new Oppo will have the Darbee feature built in, the Darblet or Cobalt remain more versatile since one can run a Blu-ray player, HD-DVD, HD streamers or HD cable through either of them.

Not that I disagree with you (I also prefer to have a separate Darblet), but OPPO Blu-ray players from the 103 onward have an HDMI input and can be used as a video processor for other input sources.

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^ +1

With convenience one often gives up versatility.

...and also, often quality as well.
(See: iPods, MP3 files, ear buds, Netflix vs. BDs,...).

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Not that I disagree with you (I also prefer to have a separate Darblet), but OPPO Blu-ray players from the 103 onward have an HDMI input and can be used as a video processor for other input sources.

Well, that's good to know. It might make equipment hookup a bit out of the norm, but at least it's possible.
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I just purchased a Darbee. Can I connect the hdmi coming from my receiver (Denon 4520CI) to the Darbee and then from the Darbee to my projector. Or, does the video signal need to come directly from the source? i.e. The BD itself? Thanks...

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I just purchased a Darbee. Can I connect the hdmi coming from my receiver (Denon 4520CI) to the Darbee and then from the Darbee to my projector. Or, does the video signal need to come directly from the source? i.e. The BD itself? Thanks...

Installed as the last device in the chain before the display works for almost all installations and is the most versatile. If it doesn't that way, then we can work on work-arounds.
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Installed as the last device in the chain before the display works for almost all installations and is the most versatile. If it doesn't that way, then we can work on work-arounds.
Thank you very much. I will give it a try today...

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Not that I disagree with you (I also prefer to have a separate Darblet), but OPPO Blu-ray players from the 103 onward have an HDMI input and can be used as a video processor for other input sources.

Thanks Josh, I didn't know that. While the upcoming Oppo 103D is probably fine for simple setups I don't think it would work in my system where I am routing at least 6 different devices through my Darblet.

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With the one HDMI available though in the Oppo, that is the same amount of inputs on the Darblet. Wouldn't you switch the sources the same way?
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With the one HDMI available though in the Oppo, that is the same amount of inputs on the Darblet. Wouldn't you switch the sources the same way?

The complication is the audio. If you get the audio from the HDMI you have to route it back through the receiver (or whatever decodes it). Not impossible, but a bit different.
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The white paper http://darbeevision.com/assets/documents/DarbeeVision%20Whitepaper%20with%20Tech%20Details%2020120415.pdf and
Darbee Patent document 7,995,835 Method and apparatus for altering two-dimensional images using three-dimensional information http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&S1=darbeevision&OS=darbeevision&RS=darbeevision explain the Darbee Vision image processing details.
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Josh, Im in need of a new BD player (oppo83) and have always been curious about a Darbee. It seems the Oppo 103d would be perfect since I only use Blu ray in my theater. However, it would need to go through my VP for my scope setup and color correction. Bad idea?
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The Darbee let's one see more detail. Detail is measured in terms of resolving contrast. MTF is a measure of contrast resolution.


The Darbee will work with a UHD set if it used to process up to a 1080p signal sent to the set for upscaling by a processor or the set. It can not be used to process a UHD signal. A new model is coming for that and I suspect is being shown at Cedia. I will order it as soon as ordering is allowed.

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My present Darbee has stopped outputting anything. I will be sending it back for repair shortly. Fecal happens and Darbeevision takes care of it when it happens, I recommend the product and the company highly.
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^ But however did you know it stopped working? jk lol

I have grown so accustomed to it that I simply cannot imagine NOT having it now. Granted I do run mine a bit hot. 75% on the 12 foot screen and 65% on the 70 inch screen. Either yellow or red settings too. Make it POP Baby! Hmm, five 15 inch woofers, 12 foot screen in a black cave, Darbee on torch mode and I drink only IPAs or Jack while listening to Nugent. Think I'm an extremist? lol
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^ But however did you know it stopped working? jk lol

I have grown so accustomed to it that I simply cannot imagine NOT having it now. Granted I do run mine a bit hot. 75% on the 12 foot screen and 65% on the 70 inch screen. Either yellow or red settings too. Make it POP Baby! Hmm, five 15 inch woofers, 12 foot screen in a black cave, Darbee on torch mode and I drink only IPAs or Jack while listening to Nugent. Think I'm an extremist? lol

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Got our Darblet 5000 in mid April and we have been enjoying what it does to our Samsung PN60F8500 viewing experience.

Last week I said to my wife "Why don't we get a second Darblet for the kitchen HDTV?"

Her reply was "Why don't you wait for the 2014 model and put that on the F8500?"

Glad that I learned to listen to her. smile.gif

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Anyone has any news of the updated Darbe processor (the 5100) supposed to be shown at Cedia?

Would love to have more details...
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Anyone has any news of the updated Darbe processor (the 5100) supposed to be shown at Cedia?

Would love to have more details...
I called Darbee and they told me that the only difference between the 5000 and the 5100 is the placement of the HDMI input and output locations.

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I called Darbee and they told me that the only difference between the 5000 and the 5100 is the placement of the HDMI input and output locations.

Ha! They heard the biggest complaint!
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I called Darbee and they told me that the only difference between the 5000 and the 5100 is the placement of the HDMI input and output locations.

That means no need to upgrade this year. My wallet thanks you.
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I'm another satisfied Darbee customer. Using with my Mitsubishi HC6800 projector and 159" DaLite Pearlesant screen. I knew it made a notable difference when the wife said,"Wow, how'd we live without this?" biggrin.gif

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I called Darbee and they told me that the only difference between the 5000 and the 5100 is the placement of the HDMI input and output locations.
Best news ever. Saves us all 300 bucks. 🎉🎈🎉

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Whoa! Was this the guy who is the registered member DarbeeDr?

see post #66. his name is Larry Pace, COO of DarbeeVision, Inc.

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