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post #8761 of 8770 Old 07-04-2015, 11:59 AM
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Besides "Darbeeized" as you mentioned above, its longevity and automatic change to default settings are another issue. These are the common complaints. I have my Darbee Darblet a little over 1 year. Seldom use it. It is switched off when not in use. Last usage was a few months ago. Lately I tried to turned it on. Its green led light flashed once and death. Automatic change of default by itself happened a few times. Darbee Vision was asking me to return for testing. Refurbished unit is about $150 if my unit is not repairable. $300 price tag on new purchase that only serves 2 years is TOO expensive.
I would probably bite on a refurb. Where do you see them refurbished for $150?
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Besides "Darbeeized" as you mentioned above, its longevity and automatic change to default settings are another issue. These are the common complaints. I have my Darbee Darblet a little over 1 year. Seldom use it. It is switched off when not in use. Last usage was a few months ago. Lately I tried to turned it on. Its green led light flashed once and death. Automatic change of default by itself happened a few times. Darbee Vision was asking me to return for testing. Refurbished unit is about $150 if my unit is not repairable. $300 price tag on new purchase that only serves 2 years is TOO expensive.
I have owned the DVP5000 since Aug 2012. It has always been on for almost 3 years now. Never any handshake issues and 3 maybe 4 resets. Maybe turning it on and off is what caused you to have a death. Sorry it did not work out for you. I have mind set at 50-60% HD on a Sharp 70" LED LCD display.
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My Darblet caused havoc once inserted into my system - HDMI handshake issues, including sound drop outs (like the center channel sound going missing). The issues always disappeared when I pulled the Darblet out of the chain, and re-appeared with it in the chain. Didn't matter where in the chain I put it, or whether I tried different HDMI cables. Finally getting rid of the Darblet, replacing it in the chain with the Lumagen 2041, finally rid me of those problems. Quite a number of folks have reported similar issues with the Darblet in their systems.
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My Darblet caused havoc once inserted into my system - HDMI handshake issues, including sound drop outs (like the center channel sound going missing). The issues always disappeared when I pulled the Darblet out of the chain, and re-appeared with it in the chain. Didn't matter where in the chain I put it, or whether I tried different HDMI cables. Finally getting rid of the Darblet, replacing it in the chain with the Lumagen 2041, finally rid me of those problems. Quite a number of folks have reported similar issues with the Darblet in their systems.
And most of those reporting the issue were able to solve the handshake issues. Either by changing lengths of HDMI cables or adjust color space in the various components. On a few occasions like you it just didn't work out.
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I would probably bite on a refurb. Where do you see them refurbished for $150?
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Darbee Vision quoted me the price, if my unit could not be repaired by them. I don't think they can't repair it. Unless they just don't want to repair and exchange a refurbished one. You can email and ask for the price again. It should be $149 to be exact.
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I have owned the DVP5000 since Aug 2012. It has always been on for almost 3 years now. Never any handshake issues and 3 maybe 4 resets. Maybe turning it on and off is what caused you to have a death. Sorry it did not work out for you. I have mind set at 50-60% HD on a Sharp 70" LED LCD display.
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Thank for your response. I did not turn it on and off frequently. In fact I only spent 1 hour or 2 every month at the most. I switched off all my AV gears when stop watching. Have no problem with other gears, but the Darbee Darblet 5000. It is not acceptable to me that it died at early.
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My video output is split between two projectors, a JVC LCoS that I use for dedicated 2D Blu-ray watching, and a Sharp DLP that I use for 3D and for general purpose TV watching. The Darblet affects them differently. I could comfortably watch the JVC with the Darblet set at Hi-Def 45%, but that looks too harsh on the Sharp. I dialed it down to 40% and it works fine for both.

I consider this a set-it-and-forget-it device. I have left it on at at that setting for the past couple years. I don't even think about whether it's on or off anymore. It just does its thing in the background.

If I had to make a conscious decision about "Am I going to turn it on for this or not?", then human nature would compel me to constantly second guess myself. "Did I make the right decision? Would it have been better off in this case? What's it doing to the picture? Can I tell the difference? Should I change the setting? Does that pixel right there look right?"

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My video output is split between two projectors, a JVC LCoS that I use for dedicated 2D Blu-ray watching, and a Sharp DLP that I use for 3D and for general purpose TV watching. The Darblet affects them differently. I could comfortably watch the JVC with the Darblet set at Hi-Def 45%, but that looks too harsh on the Sharp. I dialed it down to 40% and it works fine for both.

I consider this a set-it-and-forget-it device. I have left it on at at that setting for the past couple years. I don't even think about whether it's on or off anymore. It just does its thing in the background.

If I had to make a conscious decision about "Am I going to turn it on for this or not?", then human nature would compel me to constantly second guess myself. "Did I make the right decision? Would it have been better off in this case? What's it doing to the picture? Can I tell the difference? Should I change the setting? Does that pixel right there look right?"

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That is why it will create a habit of turning on and off the menu more frequently by most users, as to ensure it is working.
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My video output is split between two projectors, a JVC LCoS that I use for dedicated 2D Blu-ray watching, and a Sharp DLP that I use for 3D and for general purpose TV watching. The Darblet affects them differently. I could comfortably watch the JVC with the Darblet set at Hi-Def 45%, but that looks too harsh on the Sharp. I dialed it down to 40% and it works fine for both.

I consider this a set-it-and-forget-it device. I have left it on at at that setting for the past couple years. I don't even think about whether it's on or off anymore. It just does its thing in the background.

If I had to make a conscious decision about "Am I going to turn it on for this or not?", then human nature would compel me to constantly second guess myself. "Did I make the right decision? Would it have been better off in this case? What's it doing to the picture? Can I tell the difference? Should I change the setting? Does that pixel right there look right?"

That way lies madness.
I can't consider it set-and-forget for various reasons (already mentioned) but including the fact it will emphasize artifacts, film grain etc. On a clean movie like Avatar a setting of 40 can add some clarity/pop. But for many other movies (often older, including DVD occasionally) that I watch, a setting of 40 can make artifacts and film grain overly pronounced. Same when I try to use it for some sports, where the Darbee can add some punch, but also on less than pristine feeds, amplify
the image noise and make things look more artificial.

I just watched the movie Candyman and tried the Darbee at various settings. At almost any setting where I started to notice any difference to the image - e.g. 15 and above - the grain, and the slightly digital nature of the image started to become more emphasized as well. For me settings above 30 really started to interfere with my enjoyment of the image. I ended up around 15 or so.

Of course I could just "set-and-forget" the Darbee, and then just start attributing the emphasized artifacts, grain etc to the source. But, why? The beauty of something like the Darbee is having the flexibility. I didn't have to live with the extra grainy image of the movie, I could dial back the Darbee and enjoy the image more.

Of course this is all personal tolerance stuff. Lots of people may not want to "bother" touching the controls for the Darbee once set up...but then may be in to calibrating their displays themselves which, to me, is an almost horrific amount of time to spend on non-movie-watching activity (that is including the amount of education and learning involved to even become proficient at decent calibration...you want a "that way lies madness" scenario, just inhabit the calibration threads for any projector or display!).
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