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What happened? Might just be the power supply.

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What happened? Might just be the power supply.
Power supply is 5.25V. Died over two days. Picture started flashing to black then no picture at all. Only see Red and Green LEDs. Tried disconnecting 5000 from power for several minutes to reset. Replaced 5000 with Female to Female connector between In and Out cables and get perfect picture. Same results when input to monitor with HDMI input.
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I think Darbee Vision is probably done.

With UHD, HDR, WCG, Rec.2020, etc., what improvement can Darbee can bring to the table? And how can they even keep up and be compatible with all these new technologies? If they do choose to play, which I doubt, it will take them a long time to catch up.
Darbee is a sharpening 'effect'. It doesn't actually sharpen the image, it just appears that way through the pixel contrast trick they use.

This works on just about all images, from the well mastered to-disc stuff, to the crappy mastered to-disc stuff.

Even with Ultra blu ray, there will still be discs that were not shot and mastered as 'sharp' as many others. Playing that less sharp disc on your 4k UHD, HDR, etc display will not make it sharper. Those mentioned techs do not make less sharp sources appear sharper, while a Darbee does. And many of those Ultra blu rays will just be the same mastered source as the reg blu ray disc.

Also, Darbee doesn't just make things appear sharper, in many cases it makes the image a little more contrasty.

Those are my thoughts and they might not be totally (if at all) accurate.

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Most of us here are long-time Darblet users, so no need to explain to us how it works. We really won't know the level of noticeable improvement that can be obtained with native UHD content until (and if) a 4K Darblet is released.
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Most of us here are long-time Darblet users, so no need to explain to us how it works. We really won't know the level of noticeable improvement that can be obtained with native UHD content until (and if) a 4K Darblet is released.
any difference between the old darbee and the new-ish 5000s ?
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any difference between the old darbee and the new-ish 5000s ?
In terms of how it works, none that I can see. . . but the build quality seems to be a bit more robust.
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any difference between the old darbee and the new-ish 5000s ?
Functionally the same.
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Functionally the same.
oh ok , I was under the impression that the processing had improved
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oh ok , I was under the impression that the processing had improved
Nope, just lipstick on the pig...
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Nope, just lipstick on the pig...
thanks for the info ! one review had said that full pop was usable on the newer version whereas the old 1.0 Darbee was too processed looking , honestly i keep my old Darbee at about 43% on hi deff mode , I guess I'm just wishing for a 4k Darbee and after reading through this thread that looks unlikely.
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I have gotten so used to my Darbee Darblet that I've often forgotten that it's working. For whatever reason it reset itself last week, the colored LED lights came on. I usually have them off but decided to leave them on since I can see them working and for me it's an easy visual confirmation. I've been running HD 40% on my Panasonic projector for years but after the reset I experimented with HD 50% and left it at the higher setting. Don't know if my tastes are changing or if my 5+ year old projector is showing its age.
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any difference between the old darbee and the new-ish 5000s ?
yes, I would say I own both.

The 5000s has slightly better sharpening less processed look and better build quality.

I find the newer 5000s had more hdmi sync issues than the older one was more stable, but since moving it back on the chain seems to work fine while the older one work fine in both locations.



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yes, I would say I own both.

The 5000s has slightly better sharpening less processed look and better build quality.

I find the newer 5000s had more hdmi sync issues than the older one was more stable, but since moving it back on the chain seems to work fine while the older one work fine in both locations.



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Thanks for another point of view on the subject, again I had read some reviews that said the processing had been updated that refined a few things but whether it warrants a upgrade or not is a matter of opinion. I am certainly a believer in the tech and i'm a bit disappointed as i said earlier that we may never see a 4K version. I recently jumped from a plasma TV to a projector and i must say the Darbee processing is even more noticeable on a bigger screen.
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Thanks for another point of view on the subject, again I had read some reviews that said the processing had been updated that refined a few things but whether it warrants a upgrade or not is a matter of opinion. I am certainly a believer in the tech and i'm a bit disappointed as i said earlier that we may never see a 4K version. I recently jumped from a plasma TV to a projector and i must say the Darbee processing is even more noticeable on a bigger screen.
I actually ordered the newer version because I has having stability issues with my older Darblet (frequent resets). I used the newer version for a short period of time, but like @a5ian300zx , I experienced HDMI issues problematic enough that I returned the unit. While I had it, I was not able to see any improvement in the PQ.

My advice would be to hold out for the 4K version, assuming it is actually coming, especially if your current Darblet is stable.
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Power supply is 5.25V. Died over two days. Picture started flashing to black then no picture at all. Only see Red and Green LEDs. Tried disconnecting 5000 from power for several minutes to reset. Replaced 5000 with and get perfect picture. Same results when input to monitor with HDMI input.
My new DarbeeVision DVP-5000S arrived. Just replaced the Female to Female connector between In and Out cables and 5000S works fine with my Samsung PN60F8500 plasma. Don't remember my old 5000 settings but we like Green [High Def] 100% on 5000S. Can't compare 5000 to 5000S picture, would need to do A B comparison for that. 5000S seems to pull away a silkscreen filter from pictures, just like the 5000 did.
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