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I'm getting anxious! I hope it ships soon!

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I'm getting anxious! I hope it ships soon!

It's my understanding we are at least 45 days out (or more).

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Yeah really. I was hoping I'd get one in time for Thanksgiving when family members who I won't be seeing for another 1-2 years are planning to visit.
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45 DAYS!!

That's good news for me. I'll have enough room on my credit card by then.

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Yeah really. I was hoping I'd get one in time for Thanksgiving when family members who I won't be seeing for another 1-2 years are planning to visit.

I would assume that end of October would be a pretty good projection from DVDO...as least that's what they are estimating. I would imagine that even there was a delay, Thanksgiving would be a fair expectation.

Again, I would assume that it goes without saying that I am a customer like you, who knows only what they said on the phone yesterday when i ordered mine.

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It's my understanding we are at least 45 days out (or more).

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That puts it in the time frame that some others were saying the VP40 would be shipping!!
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I would assume that end of October would be a pretty good projection from DVDO...as least that's what they are estimating. I would imagine that even there was a delay, Thanksgiving would be a fair expectation.

Again, I would assume that it goes without saying that I am a customer like you, who knows only what they said on the phone yesterday when i ordered mine.

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Hopefully since I was one of the first to order I will get mine in the
next couple of weeks...

That's the impression I was given since I was amongst the first of the AVS preorder people a while back. I'll let you all know!

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Will they be filling all the preorders in the first production run? I didn't order mine until a week after the AVS discount with trade in was offered.

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Will they be filling all the preorders in the first production run? I didn't order mine until a week after the AVS discount with trade in was offered.

If it's important....why wouldn't you just call them directly?

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Will they be filling all the preorders in the first production run? I didn't order mine until a week after the AVS discount with trade in was offered.

Jason just responded to an email of mine, so if you call him and leave a voicemail, I suspect he'll get back to you promptly. Or just the email...

EDIT: He told me in an email just now that they expect to ship sometime in mid-October.

Keep in mind, I'm near the top of the list of AVS preorders, so I have no idea how many others will also see their units ship to them during this time period.

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If it's important....why wouldn't you just call them directly?

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...maybe because Aaron wanted us all to benefit from the answer... ^_^

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Sorry for a silly question.

Is it possible to use TV/ Plasma speakers with this VP30? (I'm using tv speaker 95% of time and do not want to change that)

Thank you for any advice.

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...maybe because Aaron wanted us all to benefit from the answer... ^_^

Fair enough. My reasoning was with something as specific as where would one stand in a purchase quere...it could only be specifically answered by DVDO. But, I certainly would understand why it would be a useful general information to others.

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Fair enough. My reasoning was with something as specific as where would one stand in a purchase quere...it could only be specifically answered by DVDO. But, I certainly would understand why it would be a useful general information to others.

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Well, my order number(ordered yesterday from DVDO-HD+ trade-in) was 1930 if that means anything...
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vn2000 - I would sure assume as much - just feed the audio out of the VP30 into the tv - be it plasma, crt, or whatever. I'm sure you have audio inputs for when you connect and watch a dvd player - just pretend the VP30 is your dvd player, hook it up in the same fashion.

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Well, my order number(ordered yesterday from DVDO-HD+ trade-in) was 1930 if that means anything...

It must mean something, I just ordered mine too and my number is 1916.
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Hi,

Does anyone have any idea how good a job the VP30 does converting signals to 720p?

I'd be feeding it the standard mix of material:
480i - SD cable
480p - DVD
720p - HD cable
1080i - HD cable

It would be a mix of film and video based material.

I have an HTPC now, and like the improvement DScaler and FFDshow make to DVD's. I'm able to output them at 720p to my projector, and I'm assuming the VP30 image would be at least as good as a DScaler + FFDShow combination.

However, even on 720p and 1080i HD material via my cable company, there are jaggies (I don't like jaggies!) and other such artifacts that I'd like to improve.

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Does anyone have any idea how good a job the VP30 does converting signals to 720p?

The VP30 is designed as an improvement on the existing iScan HD+, which does a fine job of converting to 720p. Please see the HD+ threads for more details on that subject.

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Flyingvee,

Thank you for your response. But the audio output from VP30 is digital and therefore you cannot hook up directly to TV audio IN which are mostly analog (mine is analog) DVDO tech has advised me that there is no simple solution outside of using a receiver (you would need an external d-a audio processor) and then connect head phone OUT to TV RCA audio IN.

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Ooops -sorry. That's too bad. You could buy a cheap receiver, just to do what you want, but that would cost 150 or so, and give you a big extra box for hardly any use. OTOH, that is what I have to do with my stereo rig - my fancy Rotel head unit has every bell and whistle on the planet, except a phono input. So I am stuck using my old preamp purely for the phone preamp. Which is still less money than an external preamp; likewise, a cheap receiver would be less money than an external da.

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Flyingvee,

Thank you for your response. But the audio output from VP30 is digital and therefore you cannot hook up directly to TV audio IN which are mostly analog (mine is analog) DVDO tech has advised me that there is no simple solution outside of using a receiver (you would need an external d-a audio processor) and then connect head phone OUT to TV RCA audio IN.

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I would assume with the HDMI out with th VP30, you can use that to send the audio to the TV speakers.
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On a related note - sorry if this has already been covered, but I couldn't find a reference to it.

A potential problem with the audio out of the VP30 would seem to arise from the fact that if the HDMI signal into the Vp30 is HDCP encoded, only the HDMI audio out is available for audio out - the coax and opt outputs are disabled.

I've scan read all 52 pages of the HDMI/HDCP license agreement. See section 3.3 of exhibit 3 "Compliance Rules", page 33. Sorry, but can't post URL here as I've not made sufficient posts to be allowed to do that.

I think DVDO can get around the HDCP audio out issue to some extent by redefining the VP 30's category.

Another option would be to just simply add a DIVI output connector such as found on the HD+, if Intel won't play ball. The HD+ can process HDCP signals through its DIVI connector and provide decoded digital audio through its optical and coax outputs.

I think DVDO has no choice but to come up with a satisfactory solution to this problem as most HT systems do not use the audio out connections of the display ( if indeed it has any, and then a full DTS output at that) to feed back into external receiver/amps.

I think too that Intel may well have to reconsider their limitations on only allowing a PCM 48KHz sampling audio signal to be "siphoned off" from an encoded HDCP signal stream, as this would seem to preclude outputting full DTS signals and the like. Just listening to a stereo or severely compressed 16 bit version of a fantastic 5.1 DVD just wouldn't do!!

Does anyone have a definitive answer on this issue?

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P.S. Yes, yes, I know that the audio coming from the source need not go thru the VP30, but that to my mind defeats the whole purpose of having a beaut A/V hub where you can adjust the audio for lip-sync. I don't want to go backwards from my HD+!!!!

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I am a little behind in this thread so please forgive me if this has been asked already, I didn't come up with anything via the search

I was wondering if we would have control over 1080i HDTV sources input into the VP30, for example, my Dish Network 942 HDTV pvr has a nasty chroma bug and needs some other picture controls tweaked

will one be able to adjust all picture controls and input adjustments when inputing 1080i hdtv signals??

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I am a little behind in this thread so please forgive me if this has been asked already, I didn't come up with anything via the search

I was wondering if we would have control over 1080i HDTV sources input into the VP30, for example, my Dish Network 942 HDTV pvr has a nasty chroma bug and needs some other picture controls tweaked

will one be able to adjust all picture controls and input adjustments when inputing 1080i hdtv signals??

-Gary

Yes, from my reading of the VP30 specs and of course going by the way my current HD+ performs with 1080i on the DVI input, where the signal is processed rather than passed thru, it should give you complete control over all the pic parameters that are available for any other of the processed inputs.

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I figured as much, thanks Phil

I would like to request(if possible) that the DVDO guys make the Y/C adjustment a much finer parameter than currently is used on the HD/HD+, the adjustment has to large of steps to do any good

while we are at it How about a vertical Y/C adjustment also

Damn Dish HD Mpeg Decoder's are all a real mess

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Yes, from my reading of the VP30 specs and of course going by the way my current HD+ performs with 1080i on the DVI input, where the signal is processed rather than passed thru, it should give you complete control over all the pic parameters that are available for any other of the processed inputs.

Phil.

Hey Phil

I have heard back from DVDOP and this issue is being looked at as we speak and at the moment this issue is at the top of their list
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Hey Phil

I have heard back from DVDOP and this issue is being looked at as we speak and at the moment this issue is at the top of their list

G'day Glenn. Great to hear from a pal 'back home'!. Amazing - this transcontinental stuff. Thanks for this info - I take it you are referring to the HDMI/HDCP audio problem. Puts my mind a little more at ease.

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