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DVDO iScan VP20

This is the definitive spec sheet on the DVDO iScan VP20:

The iScan VP20 is a high-definition video processor and A/V hub that converts standard or high definition from your DVD player, VCR, PVR, HD set top box, game console, or PC to one of many factory-defined output resolution between VGA and 1080p, including popular HDTV resolutions such as 720p and 1080i.

The VP20 serves as your complete A/V hub, providing simultaneous audio/video switching with deinterlacing/scaling which all on just one wire to your display.

ABT's Precision Video Scaling II technology - 10-bit
Motion and source adaptive video deinterlacing for NTSC (3:2 and 2:2 pulldown; video) and PAL/SECAM (2:2 pulldown; video) sources (SiI504)

Upgradeable to the VRS Precision Deinterlacing Card (ABT102)
SD(480i/576i) Source, Motion and Edge Adaptive Deinterlacing
o Five-field motion adaptive deinterlacing
o Edge adaptive processing to produce smooth diagonal edges
o Three frame video processing delay (Max)
o Game Modes with very low latency (sub-1 frame delay/2 frame delay with Edge adaptive processing)
Arbitrary cadence detection (any:any) to detect non-standard cadences in input signals.
o Reliable 2:2 pull-down detection for 50Hz countries
o Detection of 2:2 to/from 3:2 crossfades and out of phase 3:2 crossfades
o Detection of multiple source types within a frame for example video titles over film
o Bad edit detection and compensation to minimize artifacts caused by sequence breaks in film content


Factory defined output resolution between VGA and 1080p with all popular resolutions for digital displays
Analog HD Transcoding and Processing
Flexible Input and Output Aspect Ratio Control
ABT's Rightrate - PAL <->NTSC Conversion
ABT's AutoVFR - Intelligent Component Video Inputs with Automatic Video Format Routing
Advanced Source Transition Management provides seamless transitions between source types
ABT's AutoCUE-C - Automatic Chroma Upsampling Error detection and correction
Full-frame Timebase Correction
High performance, multi-standard video decoder (10-bit: 480i/576i; 12-bit: 480p/576p/720p/1080i)
High-quality super-adaptive comb filter with 2D Y/C separation
Flexible Digital and Analog Audio switching and routing - four digital audio inputs and one analog audio input with two digital audio outputs (both active)
ABT's Precision A/V Lipsync intelligent digital audio delay technology to perfectly synchronize Audio and Video
Factory defined output resolutions for Plasma, DLP-based, LCD-based , LCOS-based, and RP-CRT displays:

Technical Specifications

Inputs
Nine Video Inputs
Two Composite (NTSC/PAL/SECAM)
Two S-Video (NTSC/PAL/SECAM)
Two Component (YPbPr or RGB/S) processes 480i/p, 576i/p, 720p, 1080i
Three HDMI processes 480i/p, 576 i/p, 720p, 1080i, VGA/SVGA/XGA@60Hz

Eight Audio Inputs
Three HDMI
Two Coaxial Digital
Two Optical Digital
One Analog Pair (L/R)

Outputs
One Digital Audio/Video Output
Using HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) connector
Configurable for YCbCr or RGB
Also carries digital audio

Two Digital Audio Outputs
One Coaxial Digital
One Optical Digital

Controls
Front Panel
Infrared remote control with direct access codes or manual controls on front panel
Functions accessible via either On Screen Display (OSD) or 2 line, 20 character front-panel LED display
RS232 port for software downloads and automation.
Fully programmable controls for each separate video input with non-volatile memories:
- Automatic input source detection & input priority selection
- Input aspect ratio select: 4:3 full frame, 4:3 letterbox, 16:9 full frame or custom input aspect ratio
- Output aspect ratio select: 4:3 and 16:9
Flexible horizontal and vertical Zooming & Panning controls
- Picture controls with memory for each input: Brightness, Contrast, Saturation, Hue, Y/C Delay, Sharpness
Output Controls: Format/Resolution, Aspect Ratio, Sync Type, Colorspace (RGB or YCbCr)

13 Built-in test patterns for ease of set up

Power
Universal AC mains input: 100 - 240 VAC @ 50-60 Hz
Consumption <30W
Sleep Mode - automatic 30 second timeout indicated by power indicator color change

Physical Dimensions
10.4x17x2.2 (26.3cmx43.4cmx5.5cm) with feet
10.4x17x1.8 (26.3cmx43.4cmx4.6cm) without feet

Available Accessories
VRS Precision Deinterlacing Card (ABT102)
Brushed Aluminum Front Panel
Rack Mount Kit (1RU)


VP20 FAQs:
Q: How are the iScan VP20 and VP30 the same/different?
A: The iScan VP20 and VP30 use exactly the same video processing chain and both can have the SD deinterlacing upgraded with the Precision Deinterlacing Card.

The iScan VP20 and VP30 have the same chassis and front panel design
The iScan VP20 does not have an analog video output and can not be upgraded with an SDI input.

The iScan VP30 has support for constant height setups and advanced timing control adjustments and the VP20 has support for 4:3 and 16:9 displays and output resolutions for most digital displays.

The iScan VP20 does not have an analog RGBHV/Component input using BNC connections.

The iScan VP20 can covert PAL to NTSC (50Hz to 60Hz) and NTSC to PAL (60Hz to 50Hz). The iScan VP30 has user adjustable frame rate controls, in .01Hz increments, with popular presets including presets to convert Film-based content to 48Hz or 72Hz output.

The iScan VP20 can process VGA/SVGA/XGA@60Hz PC signals. The VP30 can process these signals and SXGA@60Hz

The iScan VP20 has 3 HDMI inputs and the VP30 has 4

We are also working on advanced display picture controls which will only be available for the VP30 (more details to come)

The iScan VP20 has preset output resolutions (with Horizontal/Vertical shift), whereas the VP30 has user-definable timing controls.

Q: What resolutions are predfined on the iScan VP20:
A: 480P, 540p, 576p, 720p-50, 720p-60, 1080i-50, 1080i-60, 1080p-50, 1080p-60, 640x480, 1024x768, 852x480, 1366x768, 1360x768, 1280x768 and 1024x576

Q: If I connect an HDMI (audio/video) source to the iScan VP20 will I be able to get audio out via the optical/coaxial digital outputs?
A: In most cases the audio that is available on the HDMI connection will be available on the optical/coaxial audio outputs. Exceptions include MLP (DVD-Audio) and DSD (SACD) which SPDIF connections are incapable of carrying due to bandwidth limitations.

VP20/Precision Deinterlacing Card (ABT102) FAQs:
Q: What are these new 'Game Modes' that come with the Precision Deinterlacing Card?
A: These modes can reduce the amount of video delay to less than a single frame. In many competitive processors the effects of applying complex algorithms to the video image results in upwards of a seven frame delay. This can inhibit the real-time performance for gamers who want instantaneous response to react to stimuli and to realize peak performance from their application. The Precision Deinterlacing Card (when set to one of the Game Modes) will reduce frame delay down to slightly less than one frame of video.

Q: What is on the DVD that comes with the Precision Deinterlacing Card?
A: The DVD that comes with the Precision Deinterlacing Card includes many test patterns to assist t you in optimizing the setup of your iScan VP20 and to evaluate the performance of your iScan VP20 (or any other video processing). This DVD was produced by Stacey Spears and Don Munsil (S&M) and I strongly believe that this will be the Reference DVD that everyone uses to compare video processing from now on.

The Static Patterns include:
Picture Controls (Brightness/Contrast, Color/Tint, Y/C Delay, and Resolution)
Geometry (Frame Geometry, Image Cropping, Cross Hatch - Coarse, Cross Hatch - Fine, and Focus)
Gray Scale (10IRE - 100IRE Windows and Gray Ramp)
Half Patterns (Black/White, Color 7 Bars 75, Color (7) Bars 100, Color (8) Bars 75 and Color (8) Bars 100 - These are the 'other half' of the test patterns which are built into the iScan VP30)

The Motion Patterns include:
Chroma Upsampling (ICP, 2-2, and 2-3)
Source Adaptive (Film, Film Detail, and Synthetic Wedge - Each test patterns has 2-2, 2-2-2-4, 2-3-2-3, 2-3-3-2-2, 2-3-3-2, 3-2-3-2-2, 3-3, 4-4, 5-5, 6-4, 8-7-8-7 cadences as well as a sped up cadence and bad-edits)
Edge Adaptive (Jaggies at 45/20/10 degress, Jaggies at all degrees, Video sequences which have very difficult diagonals: 'Ropes', "Ship' , 'Hockey', and Bridge')
Mixed Mode (Horizontal Text and Vertical Text)
Montage

There is also a Demo Loop which goes through all of the deinterlacing evaluation content.

The Source Adaptive 'Film' and 'Film Detail' content should be familiar to everyone, they are the infamous Cafe scene (ever wonder what happens after the bum gets the newspaper?) and Super Speedway, respectively.

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Congratulations to DVDO on the launch of a new product!

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Josh,

Congratulation, it is a nice packaging. I have two questions

1) Are the display profiles feature available on the VP20.
2) We are also working on advanced picture controls which will only be available for the VP30 any more info on this that could share at this point?
3) When will it be available.

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1) Are the display profiles feature available on the VP20.

The display profoiles are not available on the iScan VP20. They are avaialble on the VP30.
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2) We are also working on advanced picture controls which will only be available for the VP30 any more info on this that could share at this point?

I prefer not to comment on specifics. I will make more information available as we get closer to releasing this software.
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3) When will it be available.

We will be shipping the VP20 before the end of the month, as in next week.

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Hai,

Yeah congrat, to you and the team at dvdo, sorry i had to steal the thread *grin* i just could not help myself. It seems like a nice unit and with the dl102 card something that makes perfect sense for the european market with 3 hdmi ins and 2 RGBs for scart if you ask me.

What would be nice is a list of confirmed hdmi 480i/576i players to make it easy for people to pair them with this and the vp30.

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Q: Can the iScan VP20 take an HDMI input signal and output that same signal over the analog outputs?

Thanks for the info Josh. In light of the VP20 having only digital video output, does this question even make sense?

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What is the MSRP?

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The display profoiles are not available on the iScan VP20. They are avaialble on the VP30.

Display profiles are on the output side, right? If so, the VP20 can still have settings that are dependent upon the particular input resolution from a given source? Also, 1080p was not listed as a valid input signal. Can it take a 1080p signal as a pass-through for HDMI?

(Let me add that the reduced number of inputs puts this out of my consideration set, but I am curious)

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Josh,

Congratulations! I, for one, didn't see that one coming.

two questions:
1. What the MSRP + will the VP30 MSRP change?

2. I didn't quite understand about the timing controls, are these going to be strictly for the VP30?

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Josh,

Congratulations! I, for one, didn't see that one coming.

two questions:
1. What the MSRP + will the VP30 MSRP change?

In europe a vp30 costs 2100 euro the vp20 will be 1699euro. a dl102 card is 399euro that should give you
a idea on the price level. I personally guess the $1499 spot makes alot of sense in their lineup (we allways pay more in europe because of tax). More interesting question is what will they do with the HD and HD+ personally i hope they will keep them and lower their prices would be nice to have a $700 to $800 product.

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Thanks!

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This is a trivial concern, but doesn't the naming scheme of the VP20 contradict why the VP30 was named the VP30? That is, the 3rd generation of video processors from DVDO. I suppose if no one cares or notices, then it doesn't matter.

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This is a trivial concern, but doesn't the naming scheme of the VP20 contradict why the VP30 was named the VP30? That is, the 3rd generation of video processors from DVDO. I suppose if no one cares or notices, then it doesn't matter.

--Andre

maybe 30 just means its bigger than the 20 . What i mean i think their naming was confusing before its becoming less. Higher number means it can do more. I made up the following list they are not real models !

vp10 (still possible only sd for example)
vp20 aimed at digital (limited HD)
vp30 aimed at digital/analog (limited HD)
vp40 ... aimed at digital (full HD)
vp50 .... aimed at digital/analog (full HD)

They could use the second number (like denon does for example) for updated versions

vp31 (imho they should name assign the vp30+dl102 this its confusing now)
vp32 (drops the 504 on a board redesign defaults to abt102)

Something like that.

Maybe this is what they are thinking ?

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Very smart and logical, you should get a consulting fee!

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Daniel,

I like your scheme! So when is the VP50 going to be out?

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I like your scheme! So when is the VP50 going to be out?

--Andre

Well the make it up as we go along avsforums team is still working on the details but we plan to release a virtual version in sept. unless you really demand a usb that is

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Nice looking product, what next? A gamers friend?
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The MSRP on the iScan VP20 is $1699 and we plan on shipping the first units this upcoming Tuesday, May 30th.

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The MSRP on the iScan VP20 is $1699 and we plan on shipping the first units this upcoming Tuesday, May 30th.

Can it be bougth at DVDO's website?
I can't find it anyway...
Will there be some sort of upgrade program too?
Thank you and my compliments - it's just the product for me...

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Can it be bougth at DVDO's website?
I can't find it anyway...
Will there be some sort of upgrade program too?
Thank you and my compliments - it's just the product for me...

Since you are in europe consider adding the dl102 card....

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This sounds like a great new product that may do even better than the VP30. Let's face it, are the lion's share of VP30 addicts in this forum the real majority of the customer base? Does everyone looking at this kind of scaler really care about 1:1 pixel mapping of their plasma, SDI support or the myriad of "tweakophile" features of the VP30? Probably not. The VP20 allows DVDO to get a cheaper product out the door that eliminates some of the features not needed by 95% of the people out there (analog HD output is the domain of old rear projection CRT TVs and projectors). The included displays handle probably 98% of the TVs out there.

Hell I might even buy one if I can convince my wife. My Mitsu 65813 w/DVI needs the help of a good scaler to handle the nasty D* SD signals its getting.

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The iScan VP20 is up on our website now: http://www.dvdo.com/pro/pro_isvp20.php

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The iScan VP20 is up on our website now: http://www.dvdo.com/pro/pro_isvp20.php

Could you also update the image on the vp30 , ive been looking for that
1080p output for a while now and it aint there.... it was probably a prototype
with a single line output but still. Also on the compare there are some small mistakes
like 4 profiles instead of 10.

Hope the vp20 will do well for you...

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The VP30 image should be updated very soon.

Thanks for pointing out the error on the # of Display Profiles.

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Josh is there a trade in program to go fron an I Scan HD+ to the VP20?

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Josh is there a trade in program to go fron an I Scan HD+ to the VP20?

Thanks

There will be a trade-in program for the VP20. We will have the details finalized and posted on our website on Friday. I will make sure to post here when that is done.

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Hi Josh, 2 quick questions:
1) for analogue video in, will the HDMI out be HDCP'ed ? (I hope not, since the input is not. But then I heard HDMI has HDCP "given")
2) svideo/composite input, does it have a 3D comb filter ?

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The VP20 is exactly the same as the VP30 in both regards. You can turn off HDCP at the output of the VP20 so that authentication never happens wbetween the VP20 and the display. The comb filter is a high-quality super-adaptive comb filter with 2D Y/C separation.

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