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post #151 of 175 Old 08-01-2006, 02:00 AM
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When you're looking for the last 5% of performance you start looking in the more obscure places. If you're just after the main 95%, you don't need to.

You may find though, that searching for the extra 5% is heaps of fun even if nothing else.

You mean heaps of $$ instead of fun don't you , Who of you dares to tell 'friends' they use a dvd-chain thats over 5k without being called a weirdo.

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You mean heaps of $$ instead of fun don't you , Who of you dares to tell 'friends' they use a dvd-chain thats over 5k without being called a weirdo.

I've bought my Philips 963 used from Ebay and installed the PixelMagic SDI mod myself. This was overall noticably cheaper compared to buying a top of the line DVD player.
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Madshi - had you soldered before? I keep wodering about doing it myself but the last time I soldered anything was about 20 years ago.
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It was my first soldering job ever. However, I had asked my dad to do it before (he is learned electrician) and he didn't want to do it. He said he was afraid of destroying the DVD player, because the soldering points were too small. I think it's not easy to do, but possible, if you have calm hands.
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I guess it depends on the price I get the 693 for
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You mean heaps of $$ instead of fun don't you , Who of you dares to tell 'friends' they use a dvd-chain thats over 5k without being called a weirdo.

Daniel.

Come on; who doesn't think sanding down the sides of one's DVD collection and colouring them in with a green magic marker, and paying $500+ for the tools to do it, is a great idea? That's right, no one!

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I've bought my Philips 963 used from Ebay and installed the PixelMagic SDI mod myself. This was overall noticably cheaper compared to buying a top of the line DVD player.

You soldered it yourself? You mean onto the ribbon cable bridge for the deinterlacer board? My god.

I failed miserably when I tried to do mine.
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You soldered it yourself? You mean onto the ribbon cable bridge for the deinterlacer board? My god.

I failed miserably when I tried to do mine.

Yep, I did that successfully myself, as my first soldering job ever.

It doesn't look very nice/professional - but it works just beautifully.
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Way to go Madshi!!!

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I noticed a discussion in this thread related to mediatek's mpeg decoder. I am not familiar with mediatek. I found out a mediatek video processor is the internal processor on a LCD I am looking at. I know about genesis, realta, and pixelworks but have not heard of mediatek. I am assuming that the media tek video processing capabilities is far below the premium chips mentioned above. Does anyone have experince with mediatek who could shed some light for me. I am curious about deinterlacing(bob vs weave), diagonal filtering, and noise reduction.

Thanks for the info.
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Check out www.hometheaterhifi.com . Do a search for that. I think there are some nice reviews, etc of products with the Mediatek. Also check the DVD Benchmark.

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I noticed a discussion in this thread related to mediatek's mpeg decoder. I am not familiar with mediatek. I found out a mediatek video processor is the internal processor on a LCD I am looking at. I know about genesis, realta, and pixelworks but have not heard of mediatek. I am assuming that the media tek video processing capabilities is far below the premium chips mentioned above. Does anyone have experince with mediatek who could shed some light for me. I am curious about deinterlacing(bob vs weave), diagonal filtering, and noise reduction.

Thanks for the info.

We've been talking about the Mediatek MT1389 series, used for its primary purpose of MPEG decoding. The chip does indeed have a deinterlacer (and scaler?) built in, but it's not on the same level as the Realta, VXP, ABT, National AVC2510, Faroudja 23x0, SiI504, and so forth. As far as imbedded deinterlacers in SoC processors go, it's one of the better ones, but you can still do much better if you're willing to pay for it.
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Interesting. Thanks for the info. Is there a website that provides detial on what internal precessors are in what sets/manafactures/models?
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Interesting. Thanks for the info. Is there a website that provides detial on what internal precessors are in what sets/manafactures/models?

None complete or recent enought to be of any value, I'm afraid.
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not true, the fact that HDCP has been added to HDMI would give SDI the upper hand in a purity stand point

Don't worry Gary, Targus is notorious from taking book theory and creating firm assertions from it, having never looked at the results first hand. How many SDI mods have you performed? Right. Good enough for me.

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also the fact the no players with mpeg decoders as good as the Panasonics have HDMI output, so SDI is better than HDMI in every way because of the quality of mpeg decoders in the units we are comparing

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But see that's experience talking, so it's over his head...

The First Clarke Law states, 'If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible he is almost certainly right, but if he says that it is impossible he is very probably wrong.'
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A "blanket" statement, with very little basis in reality....like most of the other posts by the SDI experts in this thread.

You really need to offer something other than insults directed at people with real-world experience to gain traction. Because, right now, you're the engineer-troll that lives under the bridge.

The First Clarke Law states, 'If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible he is almost certainly right, but if he says that it is impossible he is very probably wrong.'
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Because, right now, you're the engineer-troll that lives under the bridge.

You're responding to a post I made in July of last year...and you're calling me a troll?

What did you bring to this thread?

You're obviously angry that you've had your ass handed to you in other threads.

Get over it, and stop trolling.
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Who of you dares to tell 'friends' they use a dvd-chain thats over 5k without being called a weirdo.

Only if asked.

The First Clarke Law states, 'If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible he is almost certainly right, but if he says that it is impossible he is very probably wrong.'
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You're responding to a post I made in July of last year...and you're calling me a troll?

Does that mean you didn't say it? Is there a statute of limitations?

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What did you bring to this thread?

I'd rather become more educated and observe instead of bringing constant arrogant negativity to every discussion I participate in, which is your MO.

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You're obviously angry that you've had your ass handed to you in other threads.

Get over it, and stop trolling.

There's no link you can provide that substantiates that claim, although I'm sure it helps your self-esteem in some odd way.

The First Clarke Law states, 'If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible he is almost certainly right, but if he says that it is impossible he is very probably wrong.'
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I'd rather become more educated and observe instead of bringing constant arrogant negativity to every discussion I participate in,

Then why do you act like an arrogant troll?

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There's no link you can provide that substantiates that claim

There's a link under your name, that will provide much entertainment for anyone who clicks on it.
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An SDI modded RP-82 into a Lumagen HDQ is a wonderful thing.
To those who think that 480i HDMI has the same PQ as SDI are ....well...just wrong.
Simple as that
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shame on you guys!

Closing this thread.

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