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it is, WD annouced the projected release and price to shops...komplett put it up on their webpage knowing the part number and MSRP in advance...but the release date with actual units may be months away...until it appears on WD site, I doubt we will see actual units...
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Would love to see the specs under the hood.
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Would love to see the specs under the hood.

Its purely my opinion but I'm gonna go on a limb and say its the WDTV1 just with added ethernet and dts support. Hopefully they prove me wrong and we see the new king of the market.

Not that the wdtv isnt probably already in terms of sales, but I'd like to see it trump the other in capabilities.
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Its purely my opinion but I'm gonna go on a limb and say its the WDTV1 just with added ethernet and dts support. Hopefully they prove me wrong and we see the new king of the market.

Not that the wdtv isnt probably already in terms of sales, but I'd like to see it trump the other in capabilities.

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what really makes the difference is the price. If it's 99-120$ US like the current model, it will sell as much as that, maybe even better...
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The sweet spot price point has to be $150 or less. Above that, most consumers will balk. There's not a huge mainstream market for these things yet. WD is probably very sensitive to this because although they're competiting to a degree with NMTs, in reality they're creating a new market. WD is the only producer of these types of devices that has a massive retail footprint--especially in brick & mortar stores. They need to get a price-point on the product that is attractive so stores like Best Buy will carry it. If these devices ever catch on with mainstream consumers, I'm sure WD will create a segmented market with higher-end (and higher-priced) models.

All that said, I hope WD delivers on capability with the Live. It must at least match the NMT functionality of a Egreat M34a and do so at a comparable price-point. WD could have a home-run if the box supported Netflix streaming, but I doubt it will. For mass consumer appeal, it really must have a robust online capability (YouTube, etc.). It looks like they're supporting that, but it's unknown how elegant or extensive those features will be. I believe most consumers would be much more interested in internet video/browing capability than streaming from a NAS device.
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Searching the model # on Google brought up a lot of results in the $135-150 range. I just bought the original WD TV last week, so it looks like it's going back to Best Buy while I wait on the new model. $30 or so isn't that much more for the expanded functionality (particularly DTS), and I'm guessing from here on out the bulk of firmware upgrades will go to the new model, so menu support for .ISO files (the main feature I really want) will probably happen there first.
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it really depends if they upgraded the cpu and ram.
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Does this have DTS downmix ?
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Does this have DTS downmix ?

if it doesn't, it would be the last and worst mistake WD ever made
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This is not the WDTV2.
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This is not the WDTV2.

This IS the wd tv 2! They renamed it to WD TV Live Media Player.
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if it has a different official name than "wdtv2," then why not make the wdtv mini the "wdtv2" and the wdtv live the "wdtv3"? from a naming classification standpoint, it is far more sound to do so, unless you count the mini as "wdtv 0.5" or something.
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if it has a different official name than "wdtv2," then why not make the wdtv mini the "wdtv2" and the wdtv live the "wdtv3"? from a naming classification standpoint, it is far more sound to do so, unless you count the mini as "wdtv 0.5" or something.

I don't understand you logic...WDTV Mini is an inferior product, even to WDTV 1, a different model line and purpose, actualy like a side-companion, not a successor...besides, incremental numbers don't ring well with customers (1,2,3...), it takes away personality from the product...
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don't worry, i was just egging him along.
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Has there been an announced release date for the WDTV 2 yet or official specs?
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no official release date, nor any finalized hardware specs. there's a loose list of what types of codecs and resolutions will be supported, but it was almost identical to the WDTV in almost all respects and hasn't been independently verified for accuracy.

as far as my memory goes, the original WDTV saw a mid-september announcement and a november release. there at least exists a possibility that the same game plan will happen with the WDTV2, though that's just speculation, especially when put into context with the recent release of the WDTV mini a few weeks ago.
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especially when put into context with the recent release of the WDTV mini a few weeks ago.

Indeed. And also bearing in mind the release of the Netgear Digital Entertainer Live a few days ago, which looks like a very significant piece of kit with some external similarities to WD products. It seems the way to do launches these days is to just drop the product by press release and see if it floats.

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I hope there going to release this soon. Just bought my Samsung LN46B650 and was just about ready to order the TV-1 till i heard about the new TV-2. Wonder if it's any where close to being finished or if it's over a year away from being released. I really don't wanna buy the current model if the TV-2 is going to have the newer features like the over network streaming thru LAN cable.
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I hope there going to release this soon. Just bought my Samsung LN46B650 and was just about ready to order the TV-1 till i heard about the new TV-2. Wonder if it's any where close to being finished or if it's over a year away from being released. I really don't wanna buy the current model if the TV-2 is going to have the newer features like the over network streaming thru LAN cable.

I'm wandering why should you need a WDTV Live when your TV has everything a WDTV Live would provide you with: internet browser access, LAN server access, Divx, mkv etc etc playback support, NTFS support...you name it...well, the European model at least, that is...
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Better support for codec's for one. I tried a .mkv thru my usb flash drive and got video but no audio cause the codec wasn't supported. The features that's on the samsung are nice but it's just entry level. Western Digital Media Player offers alot more.
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it does seem like a nice set up though, having 2 options to explore and see if one can cover the others weak points in terms of video playback. i wish that i could say that coupling my WDTV with my PS3 gave me that option, but alas the PS3 is a complete letdown... out of general curiosity Bean, does your samsung playback 1080 h264 mkv content with high reframes, beyond the WDTV's arbitrary 5 reframe limit?
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Better support for codec's for one. I tried a .mkv thru my usb flash drive and got video but no audio cause the codec wasn't supported. The features that's on the samsung are nice but it's just entry level. Western Digital Media Player offers alot more.

you don't get audio because it's DTS, the same happens on WDTV1...if you have an AVrec, just connect the optical audio cable to from the Sammy to the AVrec...

sure, agreed that WDTV can do more...it's just what your needs are...nothing is guaranteed with WDTV Live as well...things may work and then again they might not...
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I really think these units are coming online too late to be significant (for long at least).

I bought the WDTV1 and loved the capabilities (still do)...until I upgraded my A/V gear to a new Samsung TV, and added a PS3. Now all of a sudden, I have two streaming sources instead of none...all in one fell swoop, making my WDTV irrelevant except as a secondary streaming unit for the kitchen or bedroom.

Had the WD units come out a few years ago, it would have had much more of an impact imo, and probably would have been the de facto standard for The Convergence (R). It's almost like they are too late...now so many devices offer streaming and/or transcoding built in...blu ray players, TV's, and of course game consoles.

I will be interested to see if these external hardware units will be around in a year or so. Now even receivers (granted, only the higher end ones for now, but I imagine it won't take long to get to the Best Buy level receivers) offer up WDTV capabilities.
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Being a total idiot when it comes to networking, will I be able to attach an access point to WDTV Live and access my network? I do have a wireless router.

My lady is gonna freak if I start running ethernet cables all over the house.

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I really think these units are coming online too late to be significant (for long at least).

I bought the WDTV1 and loved the capabilities (still do)...until I upgraded my A/V gear to a new Samsung TV, and added a PS3.

I doubt that. I'm no player so I'd never buy a PS3 for playback purposes, especially if I have to convert certain formats to be able to watch them.


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I really think these units are coming online too late to be significant (for long at least).

I bought the WDTV1 and loved the capabilities (still do)...until I upgraded my A/V gear to a new Samsung TV, and added a PS3. Now all of a sudden, I have two streaming sources instead of none...all in one fell swoop, making my WDTV irrelevant except as a secondary streaming unit for the kitchen or bedroom.

Had the WD units come out a few years ago, it would have had much more of an impact imo, and probably would have been the de facto standard for The Convergence (R). It's almost like they are too late...now so many devices offer streaming and/or transcoding built in...blu ray players, TV's, and of course game consoles.

I will be interested to see if these external hardware units will be around in a year or so. Now even receivers (granted, only the higher end ones for now, but I imagine it won't take long to get to the Best Buy level receivers) offer up WDTV capabilities.

I'd also disagree with that. Unless TVs start appearing with completely universal format support (now and for the future) you are always best off with an external player.

It's one thing to buy new or replace a $99 external unit, it's another to replace a $1000+ TV.

Besides, all the current consoles, Blu-Ray players, TVs ..etc provide poor inbuilt Media Players.

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Being a total idiot when it comes to networking, will I be able to attach an access point to WDTV Live and access my network? I do have a wireless router.

My lady is gonna freak if I start running ethernet cables all over the house.

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If you are going to watch 1080P and even 720P, wireless isn't a good option (I don't know if the WDTV 2 is going to support wireless networks, or if it's going to need a custom firmware like WDTV 1 did). If running network cables isn't an option, you may want to look into something like this http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...s/XAVB101.aspx.
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