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I think these two new 3.0 models by HDI deserve a separate thread for discussion.
HDI finally officially announced these models only today.

Dune HD Base 3.0 (Sigma Designs 8642, with SATA HDD 3.5" compartment):
http://dune-hd.com/hd_players/110-dune-hd-base-3.0.html

Dune BD Prime 3.0 (Sigma Designs 8642, Blu-ray drive and 2.5" internal HDD option):
http://dune-hd.com/hd_players/111-du...prime-3.0.html

Note that the prices currently are specified only for the EU market. US ones are not clear yet.
Though it's possible to predict that it will be on the level of PCH C-200 or smaller
(as the specified intervals for EU are a bit smaller that the current announced prices
for C-200 in EU).

Note also that they are going to show the both models during the few coming days
at IFA 2009 (September 4-9, Berlin, Germany. Hall 7.2a, booth 108),
and CEDIA Expo 2009 (September 10-13, Atlanta, USA. Hall B, booth 5751).
There is even a kind of invitation to these exhibitions posted today at MPC Club:
http://www.mpcclub.com/temp/dune_ifa.jpg
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As both players are rather similar, here is the combined citated description from Dune HD site, to save your time:

Main features:
● SATA HDD compartment for fast and easy HDD exchange (for HD Base 3.0)
● Playback of retail Blu-ray and DVD discs (for Dune BD Prime 3.0)
● Playback of full Blu-ray structures from HDD and network (with Bluray
menu, BD-J, BonusView, BD-Live)
● Playback of video, music, photos from any media source (HDD, PC,
NAS, etc)
● Optical disc formats (when using an external optical drive): data discs (CD/
DVD/BD) (MP3, JPEG, etc), Audio CD (PCM/DTS), DVD-Video (retail and
user-authored discs), Blu-ray (user-authored discs)
● Support for modern video file formats (MKV, H.264, VC1, etc) with very
high bitrate (up to 50+ Mbit/s)
● Dimensions: 420 mm (width) x 262 mm (depth) x 50 mm (height)

connectors: three USB 2.0 ports (one front, two back), eSATA port, Ethernet 1Gbit/s,
HDMI 1.3, S/PDIF (optical and coaxial), 7.1 analog audio,
2.0 analog audio, component video, composite video.

Common specification:
● Processor: Sigma Designs 8642
● Memory: RAM 512 MB, system Flash: 1 GB+, BD-Live: 1 GB+
● Media sources: internal HDD (SATA 3.5”), external HDD (eSATA, USB), external
optical drive (eSATA, USB), USB devices (USB flash drive, USB card
reader, etc), PC and NAS in local network (SMB, NFS, UPnP, HTTP)
● Video codecs: MPEG2, MPEG4, DivX, XVID, WMV9, VC1, H.264
● Video file formats: MKV, MPEG-TS, MPEG-PS, M2TS, VOB, AVI, MOV, MP4, QT,
ASF, WMV, Blu-Ray-ISO, BDMV, DVD-ISO, VIDEO_TS
● Video output modes: wide range of supported modes and resolutions,
including 23.976p, 24p, PAL, NTSC
● Audio codecs: AC3 (Dolby Digital), DTS, MPEG, AAC, LPCM, WMA,
WMAPro, EAC3 (Dolby Digital Plus), Dolby True HD, DTS HD High Resolution
Audio, DTS HD Master Audio, FLAC, multichannel FLAC
● Audio file formats: MP3, MPA, M4A, WMA, FLAC, WAV, DTS-WAV, DTS, AC3,
AAC
● Pass-through and decoding of HD audio formats, including Dolby TrueHD
and DTS HD Master Audio
● Picture file formats: JPEG, PNG, BMP, GIF
● Subtitle formats: SRT, SUB, text/SSA/ASS (MKV), VobSub (MP4), PGS (full
Blu-ray mode)
● Playlist file formats: M3U, PLS
● Filesystems: FAT16/FAT32 (read-write), EXT2/EXT3 (read-write), NTFS (readonly)

Other features:
● Upscaling: high-quality upscaling and deinterlacing of DVD and other SD
content to HD resolution (up to 1080p)
● Access to network: browser of network shares (SMB, UPnP), user-defined
shortcuts to network shares (SMB, NFS), links to HTTP media streams
● NAS function: SMB and FTP access from network to the player’s attached
storage devices
● IPTV: direct playback and recording of multicast IPTV streams (raw-UDP
and RTP-over-UDP, SD and HD)
● Internet radio: HTTP/MP3
● Powerful fi le manager (copy, move, delete, rename, etc), built-in FTP and
SMB file server (NAS function)
● Photo viewer: slide-show function, picture transition effects, picture rotation
● Playlists: music/photos/video, user-defined and automatically generated
playlists, repeat and shuffle
● FullHD-quality, fast, convenient, customizable interface (with covert-art
and icon browsing support)
● Future (free f/w upgrade): Flash Lite 3 support
● Future (free f/w upgrade): Netflix support (for the USA market)

Options:
● Wi-Fi 802.11n
● Internal 2.5” SATA HDD
● Future option (Autumn 2009): RF remote, based on Z-Wave technology, a
heart of an aff ordable Smart Home system
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And here are some photos of these 3.0 models from HDI site:

Dune BD Prime 3.0:







Dune HD Base 3.0:





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And now the most interesting I've found: check the press release they published also today:
http://dune-hd.com/news/112-hdi-pres...-products.html

it contains not just a description of these models, but very interesting comparison with competitors.
Obviously. C-200 is meant. Some topics there are rather surprising (especially on the AACS keys problem and on the 8642/8643 comparison). Definitely worth reading!

Here is the text in case of any problems with the link:

HDI Dune company will show its new versions of hybrid Blu-ray/HD media players
during the 2 major exhibitions of Autumn 2009: IFA 2009 (September 4-9, Berlin, Germany. Hall 7.2a, booth 108),
and CEDIA Expo 2009 (September 10-13, Atlanta, USA. Hall B, booth 5751).

The new products are named Dune BD Prime 3.0 and Dune HD Base 3.0.
The BD Prime model includes Blu-ray drive and is capable of playing Blu-ray and
DVD discs as long as nearly any files from a diversity of storage types which can
be connected via USB, eSATA or Ethernet/Wi-Fi. The HD Base model doesn't contain
Blu-ray drive but has a compartment for easy changeable 3.5" DATA HDD.
The rest of the stuff is totally equivalent in these models, they have also the
same firmware.

Both 3.0 version products feature Sigma Designs 8642 chip, more than twice more
powerful than the previous 8634 chip model: 667 Mhz against 300 MHz.
It grants even faster GUI than before, allows much more fluent support of any "heavy"
applications including BD-J (Java), Flash Lite 3, Web browsers, etc.

1 Gb/s Ethernet now is included by default. Both in 100Mb/s and 1Gb/s modes
the network speed is now enough for watching any even most heavy contents
(like highest bitrate Blu-ray ISO), and of course it's much better now
for copying large quantities of data via players (to/from internal or connected
data storages)

Wi-Fi option can be added both inside as a mini-PCI-form board with MII interface
and with 3 antennas attached to the back side of the units, and also
outside as USB stick solution.

2.5" SATA HDD option can be installed inside of the case (opening the case is
needed, so recommended for distributors to help their customers and preinstall
the needed HDD before selling).

Here is a list of the major differences of our 3.0 models from the already announced
competitive solutions on 8642/3 chip (most of the differences are valid also
to any other competitive solutions based on other chips):

1. 8642 chip
Our 3.0 solutions are based on Sigma Designs 8642 chip, not on the 8643 one.
We'd like to remind that every odd version of Sigma chips is a functionally reduced
variant of the chip with the _previous_ even number (i.e. 8643-8642. 8635-8634, ...).
Odd versions inc. 8643 and 8635 are never meant for playing any copyright-protected
materials (like Blu-ray and DVD) and are mostly meant for cheap IPTV/VoD
set-top-boxes. For example, Macrovision support is enabled in 8642 chips and disabled
in 8643 ones. So only Dune players on 8642 chip have no limitations with output
of protected video through analog video interfaces.
Also 8643-based players can not be legally sold in any AV-stores as Blu-ray players
(for example, with some preinstalled Blu-ray drive), for Dune BD players there
is no such limitation and you'll be able to find them not only in Internet.

2. eSATA interface
eSATA interface now available in the basic configuration for the fastest
possible external HDD and other attached storages with SATA or eSATA interface.
Only when connecting equipment via this interface direct SATA operation mode
is possible. And of course, you don't need to open your player to be able
to connect any new SATA/eSATA equipment any time.

3. Plug-and-play
in general, any Dune player is fully Plug-and-play. You don't need to have
any special experience working with PC components and you can use your player
directly from store, w/o opening it and risking to damage anything inside.
If you need a player with Blu-ray drive you can buy Dune HD Prime 3.0
and start using it immediately. If you don't need Blu-ray drive inside just
buy Dune HD Base 3.0 with or w/o HDD and you are ready to go!

4. real Blu-ray player
(a) real Blu-ray players like Dune BD Prime 3.0 use specialized BD drives
(called "loaders"). BD loaders are substantially cheaper in production
than any PC Blu-ray drives. Of course, it means less expenses for end-users
of Dune players in the end...
(b) as a real Blu-ray player Dune BD Prime 3.0 contains factory-preinstalled
AACS keys (needed for decrypting any original Blu-ray discs) of type A.
These keys are fixed for this very type of the BD loader and they have
no time constraints.
In contrast, any player with PC BD-ROM drive must have AACS keys of
type C to be able to work with original Blu-ray discs.
The major problem with the keys of this type is that by definition they
expire after 1.5 year after the player is made. After this period the
manufacturer would need to buy new keys for all their users and install
them somehow (unique key for every player!), otherwise the ability to
playback original discs is lost.

5. Fanless operation
special cooling design for Sigma processors allows not to use any active cooling
systems (like fans) in Dune BD Prime 3.0.
It allows 100%-noise-free operation and absence of any parts which "wear out"
in time and may need changing from time to time in the future.
Cooler use can be also avoided in the Dune HD Base 3.0 player if using one of
the HDD recommended models (the list will be available later).
For HD Base 3.0 it will be possible to switch on/off using the cooler via Setup
(no need to open the cover).

6. IR remote by default with integrated receiver,
option: RF remote with Z-Wave

The basic package of the both models will include our standard IR remote.
Infrared receiver is integrated inside of the unit.
But if you want to control player with RF signals, this option will be
also available separately during Q4 2009. Our solution will be based on
Z-Wave RF standard (technology currently owned by Sigma Designs,
previously by Zensys), supported by some models of Logitech Harmony (890, 1000),
Philips Pronto and Nevo remotes. We'll also suggest a cheaper option of RF
remote under Dune brand.
With Z-Wave support any Dune 3.0 player will be able to serve as a center
of your very affordable Smart Home system.

7. Design
light and compact design will fit nearly any already existing equipment in
your home. Also it's easy to relocate players

8. Display
Information on our digital VFD display can be easily seen on much higher
distances under nearly any angle (in contrast, information on LCD displays
have VERY limited visibility)

9. Memory
higher system flash memory (at least 1GB) allows to include much more
features in the future with firmware upgrades.
Specialized BD-Live memory (at least 1GB) allows to use full function
of any Blu-ray disc w/o adding any aditional storage by user

10. fast and convenient GUI
as for the previous 8634-based models, our GUI implementation is based on
direct work with graphics primitives of Sigma processor and doesn't use
any heavy intermediate libraries/technologies (like Web-browsers).
It allows us to keep superiority in the speed of the players' GUI
over competitive solutions.
Also as before, our GUI is very simple and intuitive and so it is suitable
for anybody who can operate a standard DVD player. So our players are
"friendly" to children, elders and second halves. You will not need to
keep any special player for other family members...

11. F/w state in general
We'd like to remind that our company was the first one who presented hybrid
Blu-ray/HD media player solution nearly one year ago (at IFA 2008).
And of course, all the features of hybrid devices developed and
polished during this year on Prime/Base 1.0/2.0 products on 8634 chip are here
in our new 3.0 players, including full support of Blu-ray and DVD ISO images
and directory structures (inc. menu, subtitles, sound tracks, BD-J,
BD-Live features, etc), auto frame-rate feature, full support of MKV
(inc. high bit-rate), SMB/UPnP resources browser, so on (see the specs)

12. Netflix-ready
For the US market support of this well-known VoD service will be added via free
firmware upgrade during Q4 2009 - Q1 2010.

To be continued...
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The only information we can currently disclose concerning the future
price of the new products and availability time is the following:
retail price of HD Base 3.0: in the interval of EUR 270-320 inc. VAT;
retail price of BD Prime 3.0: in the interval of EUR 350-399 inc. VAT;
availability: Q4 2009.

More concrete details will be published after our discussions with our current
and future distributors during the pointed exhibitions,
i.e. after the middle of September...
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And now the most interesting I've found: check the press release they published also today:
http://dune-hd.com/news/112-hdi-pres...-products.html


The only information we can currently disclose concerning the future
price of the new products and availability time is the following:
retail price of HD Base 3.0: in the interval of EUR 270-320 inc. VAT;
retail price of BD Prime 3.0: in the interval of EUR 350-399 inc. VAT;
availability: Q4 2009.

Hi what is the price for USA if i exchange Euro by Dollar the price is very high.

HD Base 3.0: in the interval of US $ 384-455
BD Prime 3.0: in the interval of US $ 498-567

Anyone can confirm what is the price for HDI Base and Prime 1.0 or 2.0 at this moment in USA ?

Thanks
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12. Netflix-ready
For the US market support of this well-known VoD service will be added via free
firmware upgrade during Q4 2009 - Q1 2010.

While not a super big deal, this is cool. I use a Xbox360 now, but this would probably make it more convenient for my wife. I'm definitely adding this to my list, making the C-200 a question now.
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Anyone can confirm what is the price for HDI Base and Prime 1.0 or 2.0 at this moment in USA ?

Thanks

Pre-orders were in the neighborhood of $399-$575
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Hi what is the price for USA if i exchange Euro by Dollar the price is very high.

HD Base 3.0: in the interval of US $ 384-455
BD Prime 3.0: in the interval of US $ 498-567

Anyone can confirm what is the price for HDI Base and Prime 1.0 or 2.0 at this moment in USA ?

Thanks

to be at or below the pch c200, the hd base 3.0 needs to be US $299 or less
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HD Base 3.0: in the interval of US $ 384-455
BD Prime 3.0: in the interval of US $ 498-567

Anyone can confirm what is the price for HDI Base and Prime 1.0 or 2.0 at this moment in USA ?

Thanks

it doesn't work like this. EU has huge taxes and usually the value in dollars in the US is the same as value in EUR in EU (inc. all the taxes). It means:
HD Base 3.0: in the interval of US $ 270-320
BD Prime 3.0: in the interval of US $ 350-399

You can check also the situation with C-200. The price in the US is USD 300, the price in EU is EUR 350 and more. (EUR value even bigger here...)
Calculating from this, the prices for Dune can be even less in the USA...

So before their promised announcement on the final pricing after CEDIA Expo (i.e. after middle of September) I think the most realistic is to expect the following retail prices in the US:
HD Base 3.0: USD 270
BD Prime 3.0: USD 350

but let's wait for two weeks and see (or you can come to them during CEDIA Expo and check directly )...
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it doesn't work like this. EU has huge taxes and usually the value in dollars in the US is the same as value in EUR in EU (inc. all the taxes). It means:
HD Base 3.0: in the interval of US $ 270-320
BD Prime 3.0: in the interval of US $ 350-399

You can check also the situation with C-200. The price in the US is USD 300, the price in EU is EUR 350 and more. (EUR value even bigger here...)
Calculating from this, the prices for Dune can be even less in the USA...

So before their promised announcement on the final pricing after CEDIA Expo (i.e. after middle of September) I think the most realistic is to expect the following retail prices in the US:
HD Base 3.0: USD 270
BD Prime 3.0: USD 350

but let's wait for two weeks and see (or you can come to them during CEDIA Expo and check directly )...

That isn't always the case though. Take a look at the Xtreamer, which sells for EUR 99 but in the US goes for $139.99. Also, looking online I found the Dune 2.0 for between $399-$499 in the US but in countries like Germany I found for EUR 339

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it doesn't work like this. EU has huge taxes and usually the value in dollars in the US is the same as value in EUR in EU (inc. all the taxes). It means:
HD Base 3.0: in the interval of US $ 270-320
BD Prime 3.0: in the interval of US $ 350-399

You can check also the situation with C-200. The price in the US is USD 300, the price in EU is EUR 350 and more. (EUR value even bigger here...)
Calculating from this, the prices for Dune can be even less in the USA...

So before their promised announcement on the final pricing after CEDIA Expo (i.e. after middle of September) I think the most realistic is to expect the following retail prices in the US:
HD Base 3.0: USD 270
BD Prime 3.0: USD 350

but let's wait for two weeks and see (or you can come to them during CEDIA Expo and check directly )...

that would be very competitive..........the next step is to get those puppies into the US in quantity..............should be an interesting remainder of the year
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And here are some photos of these 3.0 models from HDI site:

Dune HD Base 3.0:






anyway look at the pictures for the HDI Base it looks like has two differents fronts the first pic doesnt have display the second one has.(almost the same that Prime)
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anyway look at the pictures for the HDI Base it has two differents fronts Maybe Base 3.0 and 4.0 the first pic doesnt have display the second one has.(almost the same that Prime)

If they are still being built by Panasonic then that is a behind the glass LED panel. The Panny BD players look identical to that.
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HDI would like to inform all the enthusiasts of HD that it prepared new versions of its Dune players especially for European and US markets. First of all the new version of players named Dune HD Base 2.0 and Dune BD Prime 2.0 are coming to market in the middle of July 2009. For the moment no concrete information on HD Center 2.0 is provided. This new version of the 2 most affordable player models is made possible because HDI managed to come to agreement to make these players on the one of the biggest factories in China specialized on high quality audio-video equipment. The factory belongs to Panasonic Corporation and is managed by Japanese people. All Panasonic Blu-ray players are manufactured on the same factory. The manufacturer ensures not less quality standards than the own Israeli factory of HDI.

Panasonic doesnt make this player....

is it the picture about the panasonic players ?

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Placeholder already up for the 3.0 up at DigitalConection: http://www.digitalconnection.com/Pro...deo/prime3.asp
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That isn't always the case though. Take a look at the Xtreamer, which sells for EUR 99 but in the US goes for $139.99. Also, looking online I found the Dune 2.0 for between $399-$499 in the US but in countries like Germany I found for EUR 339

no. the info on the Xtreamer is definitely incorrect. EUR99 is the price from China (then you pay delivery with DHL and customs, and the warranty is unclear). When any EU distributor gets it for selling locally and needs to give 2 years warranty (by EU laws) it's coming to EUR200 at least. Check more carefully the conditions!

And on Dune 2.0: try to buy it in the US and in the EU. You will see the difference. The EU prices are real. The US ones mean nothing as you can't really buy this model in the US (you can find just two places and both of them don't sell it indeed)...
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anyway look at the pictures for the HDI Base it looks like has two differents fronts the first pic doesnt have display the second one has.(almost the same that Prime)

I already saw Base 2.0 and I can tell you that they are nearly identical by casing with Base 3.0. And the photos seem to be correct: just on one of them the display is switched on and you can see some text/digits there, another one is switched off...
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Panasonic doesnt make this player....

is it the picture about the panasonic players ?]

also some confusion here. they (HDI) only declared they do it on Panasonic factory, they never told they use any standard Panasonic design. So the design seems to be owned by HDI, only the production done by that factory.
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I might buy Base 3.0 finally, I would like to know the price plus screenshots of menu/gui If possible
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I might buy Base 3.0 finally, I would like to know the price plus screenshots of menu/gui If possible

as they told in the citated docs, the prices will be after CEDIA Expo (i.e. after Sept 13th).
On the screenshots, I already gave some here before:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=17031012
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=17031231
(of course, it was for the previous models, but they told they have the same GUI)
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And what about functionality of front display? Does it allow to play music files, from attached HDD or network (and browsing folders/files) without switching on TV? The same question for BD Prime 1.0 too...

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if the base is around $300 and come around october/november, that's going to be great but if they delay it until 2010.... not sure about it.
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I called Digital Connection today and they said the pre-order price for the Prime 3.0 is $399. It does not look like their website is accepting pre-orders yet though.

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I called Digital Connection today and they said the pre-order price for the Prime 3.0 is $399. It does not look like their website is accepting pre-orders yet though.

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Same thing I saw. The buy now link is there and active but it does not add anything to the Shopping Cart. Says to call for price but I do not know how you could manually add the item to the cart and then set the price. Going to have to wait I guess...
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Same thing I saw. The buy now link is there and active but it does not add anything to the Shopping Cart. Says to call for price but I do not know how you could manually add the item to the cart and then set the price. Going to have to wait I guess...

The link is now live, but the price and ETA are still undetermined as yet. All pre-orders customers will receive further details by e-mail before the product ships.
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The link is now live, but the price and ETA are still undetermined as yet. All pre-orders customers will receive further details by e-mail before the product ships.

Thanks, just placed a pre-order
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Thanks, just placed a pre-order

Just got mine in too. This looks like a really nice device.

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Does anyone know if the Prime 3.0 will stream HD-DVD content?

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Does anyone know if the Prime 3.0 will stream HD-DVD content?

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What is the expected benefit of the Prime 3.0 over the PCH C-200 or vice versa. Pricewise they are comparable. The PCH C-200 costs $299, but add in a BR drive and it probably comes out to around $399, right on par with the Prime 3.0.

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lol thats not an comparision, this is only bs because they don't know the difference between 8643 and 8642
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lol thats not an comparision, this is only bs because they don't know the difference between 8643 and 8642

who doesn't know the difference? the manufacturer?
if you know better please advise
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