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mr_jbloggs's Avatar mr_jbloggs
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Here is another Media Streamer that is about to hit the market.

Patriot Box Office 1080P High Definition Media Player PCMPBO25
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has a nice looking FULL remote.

at first glance this thing looks pretty sweet.

looks like it's launching today?


http://www.cdrlabs.com/News/patriot-...ia-player.html

Press Release:
http://www.patriotmem.com/company/ne...jsp?source=184
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No mention of what chip is being used, DTS Downmix, DTS-HD/TrueHD Bitstreaming, etc... UI on Amazon looks blah
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From the UI I think this is definitely a Realtek chip as that UI is pretty much the stock UI used by most Realteks currently on the market.
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From the UI I think this is definitely a Realtek chip as that UI is pretty much the stock UI used by most Realteks currently on the market.

Agreed, def does not look like Sigma
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100% a Realtek and I'd bet my favourite hat on it being a 1073. Exactly the same interface as all the rest..
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boo i just post this .

yeah.. takes HD compare to the rest of them are all enclosures.. this seems to leave some extra on the table. nice price with pre order bonus though.
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pre order from amazon, with $30 rebate and free usb dongle!
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No mention of what chip is being used, DTS Downmix, DTS-HD/TrueHD Bitstreaming, etc... UI on Amazon looks blah

Box Office is optimized for full 1080P HD video playback, includes the latest in video processing technology, and a Dolby®/DTS™ encoder to create a stunning HD video and 5.1/7.1 channel surround sound experience on your home entertainment system.
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40mm fan according to:

Code:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGytUXZK0Zs
I'm not sure how big of a deal this is, but I read the small fan on the Xtreamer was loud enough to be an issue for that unit.
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It depends on the make/model of the fan they used and how the software controls it. If it's a high speed fan and it just runs flat-out all the time, then it's probably going to annoy most people. If it's a quiet, low-speed fan or they're using temp-based PWM control through software, it shouldn't be a problem.

Honestly, the fan probably isn't needed at all. The device can only take a 2.5" laptop drive, and they don't make that much heat. It all depends on whether their thermal design requires the fan to cool the processor. If not (like in the Ultio), I'd just disable the fan completely.
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From the unboxing video via Youtube it appears you can open the device fairly easy. It should not require a great effort to disable the fan, should fan noise become an issue. UI is important for me! I hope we will learn more about the GUI of the Patriot.
I do plan on getting the WD-TV2 however these other NMT devices each have their own set of problems and positives. If for now WDTV LIve features the best PQ then I would rather own it over other Media Players.
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I do plan on getting the WD-TV2 however these other NMT devices each have their own set of problems and positives. If for now WDTV LIve features the best PQ then I would rather own it over other Media Players.

I'm on the same boat. Still need more time to see Patriot B O's reviews coming out before I pull the trigger which one is the best for me.
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Patriot responded to an e-mail query today re release date for the Box Office: "We are set to begin shipping to our online outlets, like Amazon, by November 6."
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i sent an email too .. seems like the unit does support downmix, asked about the fan noise and they said it's a low rotational smart fan and I quote "no where near audiable". haha i hope that's the case, can't wait to paly with it when it ships.
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Found a couple of articles about the Patriot Box Office.

gizmodo.com comparison
hardwaresecrets.com review

The gizmodo.com article is a "shoot out" comparison of the Patriot, WD, Seagate, Netgear and Popcorn Hour devices. Here's what it says about the Patriot.
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This was the dark horse of the group, being a late entry by a company known only for computer memory. I was surprised at how well it held up. It actually could decode more tested formats than any other device in this lineupit did Flash video (FLV), which the three above can't render. Only the WD and the Patriot show you video previews, too. As small as it is, there's a space for a 2.5" SATA drive in there, and even a BitT0rrent client. You can copy files to and from different drives and the network, and it's the cheapest of the lot, at $130.

So why did it come in a distant 3rd? Unlike the three above, it can't read Mac formatted hard drives, and its video quality was noticeably the worst of the batch. That said, if you are a hacker sort and want something to play with that doesn't cost as much as Popcorn, set your sights on this.


Here's the conclusions of the hardwaresecrets review, though the full article is worth a look; it contains some good photos.
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Conclusions

The Patriot can pull your digital media from a variety of devices including a USB drive, a network device and the internal drive. It is truly a multi-functional device with good support for a large variety of multi-media formats. Although the plain interface won't knock your socks off, it is functional and easy to use. The fact that you can add your own hard drive is a great feature.

Pros

* Good variety of video & audio formats supported
* 2.5 drive can be added
* HDMI cable included
* Easy to navigate
* Easy to setup
* Small and unobtrusive
* Good performance

Cons:

* Wireless adapter is proprietary and optional
* Slight hum


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amazon is shipping now
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"its video quality was noticeably the worst of the batch."

Oh no! Thats not good news by any means. I already picked up the WDTV Live and am happy with it but was looking forward to the Patriot Box Office. If its PQ suffers then it wont matter how many formats it plays.
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amazon is shipping now

I haven't gotten my email yet
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I don't know what to make of the "worst of the batch" blurb. That article is decidedly short on specifics and has many generalizations. The hardwaresecrets review didn't mention any PQ concern.
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Looks like no capability to pass through DTS MA or Dolby TrueHD.

Not really 'High Definition' if it can't even pass-through High Definition Audio.
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amazon is shipping now

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I haven't gotten my email yet

Does this mean the $30 mail-in rebate and free WiFi adapter is gonna expire?

I never dealt with amazon pre-order before.

I just checked and the rebate is from Patriot and is valid for purchase date thru 30Nov2009, postmarked sooner than 30days from purchase.
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"its video quality was noticeably the worst of the batch."

Oh no! Thats not good news by any means. I already picked up the WDTV Live and am happy with it but was looking forward to the Patriot Box Office. If its PQ suffers then it wont matter how many formats it plays.

The original review didn't mention the specifics about PQ issue. But I didn't see much PQ difference between the boxes using Sigma chipset and those using RealTek chipset.
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The original review didn't mention the specifics about PQ issue. But I didn't see much PQ difference between the boxes using Sigma chipset and those using RealTek chipset.

This thread indicated some kind of inferior PQ of the Asus O!Play compared to the WD HD Live. And I read somewhere (I can't find it now) that the Patriot and Asus are essentially "the same".
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i called last friday asking if they are shipping this week, and got an response that they are receiving in inventory, so hopefully with in the next couple days.

as far as PQ concern, i think both chipset has it's pros and cons. Remember some one said RLTK has better brightness and contrast? will see how the unit performs when i get it.
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This thread indicated some kind of inferior PQ of the Asus O!Play compared to the WD HD Live. And I read somewhere (I can't find it now) that the Patriot and Asus are essentially "the same".

I have an Elektron EHP606 (basically a PCH clone) and a CinemaTube. Both of them are connected to a Samsung 52A550 TV via HDMI cables. I played several 1080P and 1080i contents with two players and performed a blind A/B test. None of my friends could tell the difference between two boxes.
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Looks like no capability to pass through DTS MA or Dolby TrueHD.

Not really 'High Definition' if it can't even pass-through High Definition Audio.

From what I gathered only the popcorn hour will do this, and at nearly 3x the price I don't think its really a knock on the patriot.
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From what I gathered only the popcorn hour will do this, and at nearly 3x the price I don't think its really a knock on the patriot.

it said 6.1 and 7.1 sound as long as it does even as pcm pass through i should be fine
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it said 6.1 and 7.1 sound as long as it does even as pcm pass through i should be fine

Yeah, and look at the PS3 when it came out, $600 and it wouldn't pass-through (bitstream) any HD codecs.
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Yeah, and look at the PS3 when it came out, $600 and it wouldn't pass-through (bitstream) any HD codecs.

Indeed! So if it works like old ps3, I am good with dat!

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