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That sucks. Why anyone would want to be limited to converting DSD to PCM is beyond me, especially after taking the time to stream it to the Oppo. Plus there are better ways to convert. Heck, JRiver is highly rated for doing just that. Wonder if is is a licensing issue or something. Doesn't seem like it would be a hardware or software issue. Guess I will look for a fix, workaround or hack?

I didn't want to size my JRiver box for doing anything beyond the most basic operation, nor did I want to convert the files, have them consume server space and then keep the ISOs/DSFs backed up as well. Grrrr.

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That sucks. Why anyone would want to be limited to converting DSD to PCM is beyond me, especially after taking the time to stream it to the Oppo. Plus there are better ways to convert. Heck, JRiver is highly rated for doing just that. Wonder if is is a licensing issue or something. Doesn't seem like it would be a hardware or software issue. Guess I will look for a fix, workaround or hack?

I didn't want to size my JRiver box for doing anything beyond the most basic operation, nor did I want to convert the files, have them consume server space and then keep the ISOs/DSFs backed up as well. Grrrr.

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I know the Media Control app is pretty basic, but it will certainly let you select DSD and other files from any hard drive on your home network, and then the 103/105 player will output them as DSD over HDMI. I have some gripes about the app, and it will have to be updated because it isn't going to be compatible with the next version of iOS.

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I know the Media Control app is pretty basic, but it will certainly let you select DSD and other files from any hard drive on your home network, and then the 103/105 player will output them as DSD over HDMI. I have some gripes about the app, and it will have to be updated because it isn't going to be compatible with the next version of iOS.
Well there's the rub, read Kal's post above mine. He reports that the 103/105 do not output DLNA-pushed DSD over HDMI as DSD but instead converts it to PCM. DSD on storage *attached* to the Oppos are bitstreamed as DSD over HDMI and of course played SACDs are. But not DLNA-pushed DSD.

If I had a small library of ripped SACDs I'd use attached storage, but the user interface isn't robust and featured enough for the large number of titles in my library.

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Well there's the rub, read Kal's post above mine. He reports that the 103/105 do not output DLNA-pushed DSD over HDMI as DSD but instead converts it to PCM. DSD on storage *attached* to the Oppos are bitstreamed as DSD over HDMI and of course played SACDs are. But not DLNA-pushed DSD.
How much of a rub is it, really? If you can detect a difference between DSD over HDMI and DSD-converted-to-PCM over HDMI, more power to you. I think few people can detect a difference reliably. And since music recorded in DSD is (I hear) converted to PCM and back to DSD during the editing process, what's the point of worrying whether a DSD track gets converted to PCM on its way to becoming analog?

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How much of a rub is it, really?
Not much, imho. My usual music-listening is done with multichannel DSFs converted to PCM so that I can use DiracLive EQ.

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If you can detect a difference between DSD over HDMI and DSD-converted-to-PCM over HDMI, more power to you. I think few people can detect a difference reliably. And since music recorded in DSD is (I hear) converted to PCM and back to DSD during the editing process, what's the point of worrying whether a DSD track gets converted to PCM on its way to becoming analog?
Because some of us need to or just like to regularly confirm the validity of our choices.

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How much of a rub is it, really? If you can detect a difference between DSD over HDMI and DSD-converted-to-PCM over HDMI, more power to you. I think few people can detect a difference reliably. And since music recorded in DSD is (I hear) converted to PCM and back to DSD during the editing process, what's the point of worrying whether a DSD track gets converted to PCM on its way to becoming analog?
You are right, of course. But then they are using digital audio workstations and uber software to do the conversions. To JRiver's credit, it has been judged to be almost as good.

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