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Here is some quick info for your viewing pleasure from the Squeezebox Forums.

More to come later.

Official Website:

http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/pr...box-touch.html

Supported filesystems for USB/SD storage

1. FAT16
2. FAT32
3. NTFS
4. ext2/ext3

Squeezebox Touch - USB Compatibility

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The Squeezebox Touch is now available for purchase.

The Squeezebox Touch has the same capabilities of a Squeezebox Classic – a Wi-Fi music player capable of playing music from your iTunes or MP3 collection, Internet radio from services such as Pandora, Deezer, Rhapsody, Last.fm, or tuning into local AM/FM radio stations from around the world – but updated with a 4.3 inch (11 cm) color touch screen interface and the simple-to-use menus also used on the Squeezebox Radio.

Choose Squeezebox Touch to Be Your Home Music Server

The Squeezebox Touch is designed to be a small yet powerful home music server. Built into the software is a full-featured version of Logitech’s proven Squeezebox Server software optimized for the Squeezebox Touch. With it, you can stream your music, Internet radio, or local radio from around the world to other Squeezebox players in your home.

The Squeezebox Touch is a low power-consuming home music server, when compared to your laptop or server currently running Squeezebox Server.

But if you want to keep your music library on a PC or Mac -- don’t worry! Squeezebox Server on a Squeezebox Touch is optional. The choice is yours!

The Squeezebox Touch also has the well-regarded high-end audio quality that Squeezeboxes are known for, with all of the analog and digital outputs for your headphones, powered speakers or audio-video components.

A Squeezebox to Control Other Squeezeboxes

Place the Squeezebox Touch on your desk or a table next to your favorite chair, and you have a whole-house music controller. Control any of the Squeezebox players throughout your home with a simple touch or swipe of a finger.

You can also access music, photos via the Squeezebox Touch’s built-in USB port and SD card slots. The size of the attached library is limited by the storage attached to the USB port, or up to 32GB on SD cards; that’s a lot of songs and pics! Or, if you’re a Flickr user, set up the Squeezebox Touch to view your Flickr photostream.



Find Out More About Squeezebox Touch

Interested in finding out more about Squeezebox Touch? To view technical specifications, the user’s manual, and FAQs, go to:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/sp...music_systems/

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Main_Page


Release 7.5.0 Required – Find Out More

If you are running Squeezebox Server on a PC or Mac, release 7.5.0 is required to support Squeezebox Touch. Find out more about this release and how Squeezebox Touch can be used as a home music server by viewing the release notes at:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Release_Notes



A world of Wi-Fi music at your fingertips

From the hottest online music services to free Internet radio from every corner of the globe, limitless music choices are just a touch away. Even your entire digital music collection is right at your fingertips. You’re free to listen to anything you can think of, all through your home stereo. With Squeezebox Touch, your stereo isn’t just a music system. It’s the center of your music universe.

Tune in to your limitless playlist

* Free local stations from every corner of the Internet
* Music services like Pandora, Rhapsody, Slacker and SIRIUS Internet Radio
* Your digital music stored on your home PC or Mac
* Plug in your flash drive to instantly play your favorite tracks

High-resolution encoding support for full, rich stereo sound

You like to hear it all, from the haunting high notes in a U2 guitar solo to the deep resonant bass at the bottom of a Miles Davis classic. The 24/96 kHz DAC, advanced audio rendering technology, and digital outputs all work together to make sure the important details in your digital music sources don’t get lost in translation. Even if you’re playing music softly in the background, you’ll enjoy a high quality sound experience—without missing a beat, note or nuance.

Brilliant full-color touch-screen

The easy-to-read 4.3-inch touch-screen and intuitive menus put you in total music control. Simply touch My Music, Internet Radio or one of your favorite online services like Napster® or Pandora® to browse, select and play whatever suits your mood. View album art, track and station information, visualizers and screen savers on the large display. You can even use your own photos from an SD card or Flickr and Facebook as a screen saver.

Seamless home network support, effortless setup

Squeezebox Touch keeps things simple from the start. Just connect the player to your stereo and the player automatically finds your home Wi-Fi network. You also have the option to plug in an Ethernet cable. Either way, just follow the simple on-screen instructions to connect to your home network and start playing music.

Listen where you live

Do you want to play your music in other rooms—without running wires? It’s easy. Create a multi-room system by simply adding more Squeezebox players in other rooms—like your kitchen, bedroom or patio. All of our players work together. Add a Squeezebox Controller and you’ve got control of all your Squeezebox players in the palm of your hand. You can play the same music throughout the house, or mix it up with a different playlist in every room.


Product summary

* Rich, full digital music through your stereo
* Access your music and photos directly from USB drives and SD cards
* Support for 24 / 96 kHz encoding
* Easy-to-use color touch-screen
* Display album art and photos
* Alarm clock with 7 days of settings
* "Always-on" Internet Radio, powered by mysqueezebox.com (formerly SqueezeNetwork), lets you tune in to Internet Radio streams even when your computer is off

Specifications

What's included

* Squeezebox Touch Wi-Fi music player
* Power adaptor with removable plug
* Infrared remote control with batteries
* RCA stereo cable
* User documentation
* Cleaning cloth

System requirements

* Broadband Internet connection required for Internet radio and music services
* Ethernet or 802.11b/g/n wireless home network
* For access to local music: 256MB RAM and 100MB hard disk space
* Macintosh: Mac OS X 10.3 or later
* Windows®: XP/2000/NT/7, Windows Vista®, 733MHz Pentium
* Linux/BSD/Solaris/Other: Perl 5.8.3 or later

Technical Specifications
General

* USB host connector for accessing music and photos via USB drive or USB key
* SD card slot for music and photos
* Supports sampling rates up to 24 bit / 96 kHz
* Stereo analog (RCA), headphone jack, digital optical, and digital coax output
* 4.3-inch 24-bit color LCD with capacitive touch screen
* Ambient light sensor to adjust display brightness according to environment
* Infrared proximity sensor to detect presence

Part of the Squeezebox family

* Works with all Squeezebox products for whole home audio
* Can be syncrhonized with any Squeezebox or Transporter
* Works with Squeezebox Controller

Audio
Audio formats

* MP3, FLAC, WAV, AIFF, WMA, Ogg Vorbis, AAC, Apple Lossless
* WMA Lossless, APE, MPC and WavPack supported through transcoding
* Some formats may require additional software installation

Internet radio

* Support for MP3, Ogg Vorbis, AAC and WMA formatted Internet radio streams

Network
Wireless interface

* True 802.11g wireless networking
* Support for 802.11b and 802.11g routers and access points
* One-touch setup (with compatible WPS-supporting routers)
* Support WPA Personal, WPA2-AES, and 64/128-bit WEP encryption

Ethernet interface

* Connects to any 10/100 Mbps Ethernet network (with Auto MDX)

Physical
Dimensions (H x W x D):

* 3.57 inches (90.8 mm) by 5.90 inches (149.8 mm) by 3.18 inches (80.8 mm)

Legal
Warranty

* Two years parts and labor

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and where is it "now available for purchase"???

edit: not orderable from directly from logitech touch product page yet, but if you can
navigate to the order pages, it seems to have the touch listed

edit: web page updated, now can be ordered from 'touch' page
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Out of Stock....
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No way currently to order it from the Touch page:
http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/pr...box-touch.html

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You might try this.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speake...s/devices/5745

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No way currently to order it from the Touch page:
http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/pr...box-touch.html

Doesn't mean a thing, this page is broken for months now
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I'm very disappointed with Logitech in general for not continuing to support IR blasting from their newer products (SB Receiver, SB Touch). I'm going with a SB Classic simply because it supports IR blasting. I know of no other way to easily automate the on/off of my HK Receiver. This negates some of the power savings you'd gain by using the SB Touch as the music server. My HK Receiver pulls around 30 watts when Idle, and my Windows Home Server pulls around 60.
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I'm very disappointed with Logitech in general for not continuing to support IR blasting from their newer products (SB Receiver, SB Touch). I'm going with a SB Classic simply because it supports IR blasting.

Not sure if its compatable with the touch, but there is 3rd party plug-in called SqueezeIr that makes the Duet reciever control other devices
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hey now,

yesterday the logitech website said it was released and available, so i ordered one.........today support tells me it was never released and they have no date.

WTF?

on what basis/reliability was this thread started?
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Not sure if its compatable with the touch, but there is 3rd party plug-in called SqueezeIr that makes the Duet reciever control other devices

Thanks for the heads up.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66795

It looks like this only allows the SB Duet Remote to blast, not the SB Receiver. My Amp is enclosed in a cabinet in our bedroom along with the SB, so I wouldn't have line-of-sight, and I wouldn't be able to shut it off if I'm outside the room. I'm also selling my Duet Remote, because I have plenty of Android phones lying around that work just fine.

The coolest IR use-case with my current setup is using my Android phone to shut off the SB and the Amp from anywhere, so that it's not sitting there sucking electricity.
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on what basis/reliability was this thread started?

Mickey G, Logitech Squeezebox Software Program Manager as posted on the Logitech Squeezebox Forums. (See first post above.)

For further reading:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...37&postcount=9

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...0&postcount=10

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...0&postcount=22

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...3&postcount=23

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...3&postcount=24

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...4&postcount=26

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and i ordered one yesterday for next day delivery........today it is listed as 'out of stock' and support tells me they were never released and they don't know when it will...................so logitech is really making a bad situation worse

i'll go over the other forum and see if mickey has an update for us.......as for me, i'm just ticked off with all of them
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mickey corrected his earlier postings

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...8&postcount=56

edit: i just noticed mickey has classe/levinson/wilson audio equipment behind his transporter.
good equipment like that gives instant credibility!
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mickey corrected his earlier postings

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...8&postcount=56

edit: i just noticed mickey has classe/levinson/wilson audio equipment behind his transporter.
good equipment like that gives instant credibility!

Thanks for the update.

I agree, nice gear.

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I have my Touch on pre-order through Amazon with no ship date yet. Hoping it ships in the next week though

Curious to hear the new owners impressions regarding SQ from its internal DAC....I am coming from a SB3.

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hi,

new SBer here (or will be one when my touch shows up).........is there a quick and easy intro to organizing music so things show up coherently?
i find the various setup pages in SBS more than a little opaque.

thanks

edit: i actually owned a duet for a few days once upon a time, before returning it for a refund.
a tech support guy had assured me that i could get 24/96 digital out, and of course that turned out to not be correct, so i've been waiting the last 2 years for either Sonos or Squeezebox to come out with a reasonably priced streaming client that supported 24/96 out
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hi,

new SBer here (or will be one when my touch shows up).........is there a quick and easy intro to organizing music so things show up coherently?
i find the various setup pages in SBS more than a little opaque.

thanks

edit: i actually owned a duet for a few days once upon a time, before returning it for a refund.
a tech support guy had assured me that i could get 24/96 digital out, and of course that turned out to not be correct, so i've been waiting the last 2 years for either Sonos or Squeezebox to come out with a reasonably priced streaming client that supported 24/96 out

I think it depends on what file types you're working with, how they were ripped as well as how you have them stored. My experience with Squeezebox Server, over the past couple years, is that it does a pretty good job out of the box in organizing my library just using the default settings. I rip almost everything into FLAC using dBpoweramp which has a very powerful meta tag gatherer. Through the years I have also used WMP, itunes, Amazon, and Winamp to compile my music collection and really haven't come across any hiccups in SBS' ability to organize any of the legacy files. I have everything stored on a separate HD with each artist organized in its own folder.

I would go ahead and download Squeezebox Server if you haven't done so already to review its capabilities and features so you can hit the ground running when your Touch arrives.

Hope this helps.

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i've already gotten SBserver installed, using it with squeezeplay on my laptop.

i store everything in WAV, and when i get serious about moving music to NASs, i'll probably rip with EAC (but i'll check out dbpoweramp).

a lot of my material has no metatags or song titles, as a lot of my material
are either old bootleg CDs or live concerts........i'll experiment i guess
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i've already gotten SBserver installed, using it with squeezeplay on my laptop.

i store everything in WAV, and when i get serious about moving music to NASs, i'll probably rip with EAC (but i'll check out dbpoweramp).

a lot of my material has no metatags or song titles, as a lot of my material
are either old bootleg CDs or live concerts........i'll experiment i guess

Very common with WAV files if I remember correctly. I'll thumb through my bookmarks when I have a free moment. I vaguely recall a pretty good solution for this.

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i've already gotten SBserver installed, using it with squeezeplay on my laptop.

i store everything in WAV, and when i get serious about moving music to NASs, i'll probably rip with EAC (but i'll check out dbpoweramp).

a lot of my material has no metatags or song titles, as a lot of my material
are either old bootleg CDs or live concerts........i'll experiment i guess

If you downloaded a lot of the stuff and still have the txt files, there is an awesome plugin for foobar2000 called foo-tradersfriend that will read the txt files and tag the music files. Not perfect, but pretty awesome.

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Anyone know by chance, will the Touch offer the same "wireless bridge" feature that my current SB3 offers? I use this bridge feature to connect my Directv HD DVR to the SB.

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My Touch will be here today (preorder thru Logitec) and I had read in another thread that I would need the Pandora paid subscription to get the best sound. I want the best sound but I want to make sure it will work through the Touch before I purchase the upgrade, so any advice? Thanks alot! Chas

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My Touch will be here today (preorder thru Logitec) and I had read in another thread that I would need the Pandora paid subscription to get the best sound. I want the best sound but I want to make sure it will work through the Touch before I purchase the upgrade, so any advice? Thanks alot! Chas



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Pandora In-Home Devices (SB products) do not currently support 192Kbps streams, although we're very interested in expanding High Quality audio options at some point in the future.

Thanks to IcemanDallas.

Pandora One is $36 for a one-year subscription that will stream 192Kbps audio.

Pandora FAQ


...free Pandora accounts will only play 40 hours of music for free per month, then the music will stop. Once you reach that 40-hour limit and the music stops, you will have the option to pay 99 cents for unlimited listening hours for the rest of that calendar month. You also have the choice to pay nothing and to come back on the first day of the next calendar month for another free 40 hours.

You also have the option to upgrade to a paid Pandora One subscription account, which also offers unlimited listening hours each month, plus no advertisements, higher quality audio, more skips and many other features...

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Pandora One is $36 for a one-year subscription that will stream 192Kbps audio.


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...free Pandora accounts will only play 40 hours of music for free per month, then the music will stop. Once you reach that 40-hour limit and the music stops, you will have the option to pay 99 cents for unlimited listening hours for the rest of that calendar month. You also have the choice to pay nothing and to come back on the first day of the next calendar month for another free 40 hours.

You also have the option to upgrade to a paid Pandora One subscription account, which also offers unlimited listening hours each month, plus no advertisements, higher quality audio, more skips and many other features...


It will not stream at 192K to the SB family. Pandora has not provided the API to accomplish this.
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It will not stream at 192K to the SB family. Pandora has not provided the API to accomplish this.

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Ok, my Touch is all hooked up and it plays Pandora no problem. Now if I were to pay for the Pandora fee of 36.00 per year would the music being played through the Touch be commercial free? And play unlimited music? Thanks Chas

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I looked at a couple of high resolution audio files at Chesky Records and Linn Records and they both have 192khz. I guess the touch would not be able to play them? Why is file support restricted to 96khz and not 192khz?
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I believe it can be done with some SW modding.
Look up this thread:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688
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How do you transfer files to a USB drive attached to the touch ? Is the drive visible to a pc on the network or do you have to connect it directly to the pc ?
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