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Yeah, the Intel/23.976 thing would worry me as well.

When you say BluRay license are you talking about BluRay menus or the ability to connect an external BluRay drive for playback?

Both Right now, the menu support is 'BD-Lite' ( I think it is playback of the largest M2TS, I am yet to hear back from them about MLPS -- Let us say we will have to test out for ourselves in a month or so timeframe )

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I hope that they can come through on 23.976 FPS support as well as native source switching or at a minimum frame rate automatic switching at a given resolution.

Color me skeptical on the forced subtitle thing, I have not seen a media player yet that did this properly.

All in all it looks though like they might have a real winner on their hands. This box IS priced competitively in the niche market they are looking at breaking into, the inclusion of BD ISO and lossless audio support is a real coup for them as these features don't even exist natively in XBMC or PLEX at this time, both of which are products that have a pretty good number of users in the 'high end' space. People who are complaining about $229 being expensive fail to realize that this box is designed to compete with the $350 Acer Aspires and $699 Mac Minis for delivering nearly a full HTPC quality experience in an integrated box that requires no setup, no maintenance, etc.

One mistake I noticed in the article is that it indicates the box is up for pre-order at Amazon.com. I do not see that ordering is an option yet.
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Hmm...at $229 this is now firmly planted in the niche category, IMO. Mind you, I think that even $199 was going to be a tough sell for the mainstream market, and I do appreciate their desire to maximize performance. The tough part for me is that I want a consistent UI in several rooms in my house (four). So these things start to add up. $229 x 4 is nearly a thousand dollars.

Their comments about Hulu don't give me a warm feeling about that, either. They're handling that on the sly which surely isn't winning them any friends there. So I won't hold my breath for Hulu Plus support, and won't be surprised to see regular Hulu support disappear.

This box is being touted as being able to play "anything" whenever someone brings up the Apple TV. But what about online services? As I already mentioned, Hulu is likely out, so what about Netflix, Amazon VOD, Vudu, or Pandora?

I fear that the best thing about this Boxxee box (their desire to appease the high-def enthusiast crowd with high-bitrate MKV support) will turn out to be the reason why most of the online streaming services, networks, and movie studios may choose to shun them.

If I had to throw out a random guess, I would imagine that Boxee is agreeing to play ball with Hulu for Hulu Plus support. Which means that it will probably NOT support regular Hulu and they won't try to circumvent it with the browser (hence the hope to "play nice" comment). Not a huge ordeal as something like PlayOn can get around that easily if you don't want to pay monthly for Hulu.
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I also haven't seen a mention of Netflix in any of the writeups that broke cover today about the new Boxee hardware.

Is Netflix dead on the Boxee Box?
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i just pre ordered from one of my suppliers. they say it looks like 1-2 weeks for stock. hopefully i'll have it soon! i'm really excited and sure hope they put in bluray menus because all i have are mkv's and bluray iso's.
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I hope netflix isn't dead.

1-2 weeks? I thought we were looking at Nov/Dec?
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i just pre ordered from one of my suppliers. they say it looks like 1-2 weeks for stock. hopefully i'll have it soon! i'm really excited and sure hope they put in bluray menus because all i have are mkv's and bluray iso's.

Are you sure you ordered the Boxee Box, 1-2 weeks isn't going to happen from what I have read

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First thread post updated with updated information.
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I see Netflix is on the screenshots on the Amazon page. I hope that's good news regarding that.
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I see Netflix is on the screenshots on the Amazon page. I hope that's good news regarding that.

Netflix is strikeout from feature list until we get some kind of confirmation that it is going to work out of the box at ship time (we've all been down this road before when it comes to Netflix and support for 3rd party boxes).
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Netflix is strikeout from feature list until we get some kind of confirmation that it is going to work out of the box at ship time (we've all been down this road before when it comes to Netflix and support for 3rd party boxes).

Agreed. Trust me, if a player gets Netflix support you can be guaranteed it will be stamped/advertised all over the place

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I see Netflix is on the screenshots on the Amazon page. I hope that's good news regarding that.

What Amazon page are you referring to? The pre-order page linked in the Anandtech article shows no mention of Netflix and the pre-order process is not live for this player yet.
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Agreed. Trust me, if a player gets Netflix support you can be guaranteed it will be stamped/advertised all over the place

You agree? The sky must be falling.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...tag=gmgamzn-20

that page.

Yes, I agree, until its announced, I don't think we can count on Netflix. All I was saying was that I guess its a someone good sign that its shown on the product pages.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...tag=gmgamzn-20

that page.

Yes, I agree, until its announced, I don't think we can count on Netflix. All I was saying was that I guess its a someone good sign that its shown on the product pages.

I see zero mention of Netflix on that page. Maybe your browser has a cached version of the page?
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I see zero mention of Netflix on that page. Maybe your browser has a cached version of the page?

It's just a screenshot, like my original post said.




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I see Netflix is on the screenshots on the Amazon page. I hope that's good news regarding that.

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Update: Boxee has been in touch to let us know that, while the MRSP of the Boxee Box will be $229, it’ll be up for preorder – and have a street price – of $199.

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It's just a screenshot, like my original post said.


I guess I don't see that screenshot on the product page, I just see images of the hardware itself.

No matter, we will know in a month or two for sure if there is a Netflix application for the Boxee at launch.
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I will update the first post accordingly. Thanks for the update.
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Are you sure you ordered the Boxee Box, 1-2 weeks isn't going to happen from what I have read

I just called back my rep and they had me on the phone with a D-Link rep. They said 2-3 weeks.

A 03235148 1 BOXEE BOX HD MEDIA PLAYER DSM-380 212.41 212.41

I got it for $212.41. Overnight shipping was more though.
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Amazon link is live... for $229?
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You agree? The sky must be falling.

I did see a pig fly by my office

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Amazon link is live... for $229?

I put my order in anyway. They don't charge until it ships and if the price drops Amazon will automatically give you the lower price. I can always cancel if it shows up cheaper elsewhere.
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I put my order in anyway. They don't charge until it ships and if the price drops Amazon will automatically give you the lower price. I can always cancel if it shows up cheaper elsewhere.

Yes, Amazon is really good about this. I pre-order stuff all the time and they always credit me the difference in price the day it ships if the item has undergone a price reduction.

They also don't charge you till it ships so no worries really.
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Yes, Amazon is really good about this. I pre-order stuff all the time and they always credit me the difference in price the day it ships if the item has undergone a price reduction.

They also don't charge you till it ships so no worries really.

And the 30 day return policy rocks. I would have been out $130 from the Popbox without this.
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And the 30 day return policy rocks. I would have been out $130 from the Popbox without this.

Me too.

Believe me, I'm sure the boxee guys are acutely aware of the Popbox debacle and will do everything they can to avoid the same fate.
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I just called back my rep and they had me on the phone with a D-Link rep. They said 2-3 weeks.

A 03235148 1 BOXEE BOX HD MEDIA PLAYER DSM-380 212.41 212.41

I got it for $212.41. Overnight shipping was more though.

Interesting. Since no official release has been announced, a mid October release would be excellent. Perhaps they are shipping pre orders first with a retail roll out in November?
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I'm in for one, too.
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Interesting. Since no official release has been announced, a mid October release would be excellent. Perhaps they are shipping pre orders first with a retail roll out in November?

We know that the hardware was finalized at least six weeks ago when Boxee were making videos of 'production hardware'. At that point we still did not know that the delay was due, not to software, but due to the change from Nvidia to Intel hardware.

So, if the boxes are going into mass production and the software is ready, then there's no reason to delay, they can launch right away.
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I guess I don't see that screenshot on the product page, I just see images of the hardware itself.

No matter, we will know in a month or two for sure if there is a Netflix application for the Boxee at launch.

Its not a cached image, I have it on my pc too, as well as on my phone's browser.
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