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post #661 of 674 Old 06-18-2011, 06:07 PM
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wish i could share your optimism... only time will tell

I feel the same way.

My fear is that Google bought SageTV for the technology, and not for the products. The technology will be incorporated into Google TV and its successors, and the current Sage products would be left to wither.
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I feel the same way.

My fear is that Google bought SageTV for the technology, and not for the products. The technology will be incorporated into Google TV and its successors, and the current Sage products would be left to wither.

Exactly, maybe the pvr functionality is carried over but I could see everything else sagetv tossed to the side. What about file format support, audio/video (such as ripped blurays, hd audio, etc...), will that stuff get locked down or tossed aside? Too many question marks for the current sagetv user to feel comfortable about

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... Do you (or anyone) have any idea what this 1.75 mbps would equate to in picture quality? Would it be equivalent to SDTV, DVD, or somewhere in between?

DirecTV's *SD*TV transmissions are ~2Mbits/sec. This is based on a (typical) hour taking ~900MBytes. This is MPEG-2 480x480i. But note that DirecTV invests *major* CPU power to minimize bandwidth requirements (for an acceptable[???] video quality). It's possible that more "modern" compression formats can achieve a similar (or better) quality:bandwidth ratio on a home PC.

If you pursue this, leave some headroom (don't push the limit), and try to have a large receive buffer [10% better PQ isn't worth stuttering over].

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I feel the same way.

My fear is that Google bought SageTV for the technology, and not for the products. The technology will be incorporated into Google TV and its successors, and the current Sage products would be left to wither.

Maybe I should clarify.. I meant it is awesome news for Google. They will get hold of some personnel who really understand what the HTPC market wants.

As for current SageTV customers, they just have to wait and watch how Google handles the acquisition.

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Agreed

BTW: Great work on your latest HTPC video card review at Anandtech. Thats got to be a huge commitment in time on top of a busy day job....certainly comprehensive and upto Anandtech standards.

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Maybe I should clarify.. I meant it is awesome news for Google. They will get hold of some personnel who really understand what the HTPC market wants.

Congrats to the principals at SageTV!! This is the time that sweat equity turns a beautiful shade of green. I hope none of them are driving this weekend.

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Maybe I should clarify.. I meant it is awesome news for Google. . .

Hi Jakmal,

That's very true. And as Clem said, awesome news for the sages who found themselves a little wealthier.

I'm just hoping that the SageTV product line survives.
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... I'm just hoping that the SageTV product line survives.

And survives >intact<. I mean, Google embracing Commercial Skip ??? That would be like the Vatican embracing pedophilia ... oh, wait, maybe there's hope.

Consider: watching a recorded show, hit Skip ... "OK, but first, a word from >one of *our*< sponsors" ... Nah, this is just GOOG putting a smidgen of their cash hoard into play.

Closing thought: Did GOOG make them an offer they couldn't refuse, or were AMZN and MSFT also in the bidding? (we'll never know).

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And survives >intact<. I mean, Google embracing Commercial Skip ??? That would be like the Vatican embracing pedophilia ... oh, wait, maybe there's hope.

Consider: watching a recorded show, hit Skip ... "OK, but first, a word from >one of *our*< sponsors" ... Nah, this is just GOOG putting a smidgen of their cash hoard into play.

Closing thought: Did GOOG make them an offer they couldn't refuse, or were AMZN and MSFT also in the bidding? (we'll never know).

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Yup. For me there were too many things SageTV was able to accomplish because it was under the radar. I expect that Google will simply pull out what they "deem" the important technology and toss the rest to the side

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That would be like the Vatican embracing pedophilia ... oh, wait, maybe there's hope.

I like a joke as much as the next guy, but that was inappropriate and in poor taste.

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This is actually awesome news!

Hopefully they will create something good unlike the not-well-received GoogleTV boxes.

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wish i could share your optimism... only time will tell

I would be surprised if it didn't mean really good things for more mainstream users. We'll have to see how it plays out for enthusiasts though; I hope that it means more development $ and the ability to make deals that were unrealistic before given SageTV's size/position in the market.
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I use and appreciate umpteen different things from Google all through the day, so don't take this as Google bashing, but I have no desire for Google to take over my sage server.

I like my sage the way it is (warts and all) I don't want it to be brought into the Google search/AdWords world.

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This is how Google attacks the DVR market.
Google TV is a flop. They have to do something.
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And survives >intact<. I mean, Google embracing Commercial Skip ???
I don't see why not. If and when Google TV does targeted advertising, it's not going to be embedded in the video stream. Google doesn't make money on traditional broadcast/cable/satellite advertising.
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