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does anyone know how to unpaid the Apple TV remote so as to pair the Harmony Ultimate remote?
correction un-pair
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does anyone know how to unpaid the Apple TV remote so as to pair the Harmony Ultimate remote?

No need. Both work just fine together.
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ok thanks, i just looked at the specs and like you said the 4k is Gigabit Ethernet and the 4 is 10/100BASE-T Ethernet. So I guess the 10/100BASE-T Ethernet is limited to max of 100 mbps? I wonder if I'm better off using wifi.

In case anyone cares, network bandwidth is actually better with wifi on the apple tv 4, I'm getting over 230 Mbps right now, with ethernet cable i was getting around 80
Interesting.

I have always had my AppleTV-Gen4 using a Cat-6 wire to gigabit (backbone) switch. Never really tried the WiFi (I reserve WiFi for wireless devices).

If it's like conventional computers and laptops, even if it's 80 instead of 230 ... I would be surprised if Ping and sustained transfers are better wireless vs wired.

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I get exactly the same FAST speed regardless if I am wired or not wired.
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I get exactly the same FAST speed regardless if I am wired or not wired.
If you have a good router and/or are the only one using the router, then yes, that can easily be true.

Right, as long as it's "fast enough" that's what is important. It's just that when people start talking of the these crazy-high wireless speeds and how they are faster than wires, I begin to wonder.

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Interesting.

I have always had my AppleTV-Gen4 using a Cat-6 wire to gigabit (backbone) switch. Never really tried the WiFi (I reserve WiFi for wireless devices).

If it's like conventional computers and laptops, even if it's 80 instead of 230 ... I would be surprised if Ping and sustained transfers are better wireless vs wired.
the results I got were with xcode and are consistent with the speedtest app on my apple tv 4. This is not what I would consider normal where wireless is getting a stronger signal than wired, makes no sense. My television on the other hand using amazon's built in app I can see that it takes up to a full minute to get a program to display HDR in 4k. and it goes back and fourth between 4k and 1080p. It's def better wired on my television, no back and fourth between 1080p and 4k. The description of my cable is RJ45 Cat-6 Ethernet Patch Cable. Don't know what a gigabit backbone switch is, maybe I could use one. I have a few devices wired directly to my verizon router, such as both my tv's and my apple tv.

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It's just that when people start talking of the these crazy-high wireless speeds and how they are faster than wires, I begin to wonder.
1) The fact that the ATV 4th Gen can get better performance via wireless than wired is not new information (two years ago).
2) Off-site speed tests are not typically suitable for measuring Wi-Fi performance. Air Video includes a speed test that uses your local Air Video server. Of course you have to be able to fill the pipe (802.11ac Wi‑Fi with MIMO) to have a valid test.

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1) The fact that the ATV 4th Gen can get better performance via wireless than wired is not new information (two years ago).
2) Off-site speed tests are not typically suitable for measuring Wi-Fi performance. Air Video includes a speed test that uses your local Air Video server. Of course you have to be able to fill the pipe (802.11ac Wi‑Fi with MIMO) to have a valid test.
Thanks for pointing this out. Makes sense now.
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If you have a good router and/or are the only one using the router, then yes, that can easily be true.

Right, as long as it's "fast enough" that's what is important. It's just that when people start talking of the these crazy-high wireless speeds and how they are faster than wires, I begin to wonder.
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I need a fast network and I am running these in my setup. I also wonder about the claims of faster wireless vs wired.

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I also wonder about the claims of faster wireless vs wired.
No need to wonder, Wi-Fi can be faster than 100Mb ethernet. Given the way the ATV works (download or streaming) bandwidth is more important than latency but wired should always be fast enough.
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Since getting gigabit, you find the weak spot are the device specs, not the internet, wired or wireless.
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IMO - it is false advertising to sell something as 4K HDR and then not be able to view your content in that format.
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IMO - it is false advertising to sell something as 4K HDR and then not be able to view your content in that format.
Except Apple is changing the description dynamically and not charging more for 4K.

They could certainly present this in a more customer friendly fashion but even if they change the encoding hourly as long as iTunes describes it correctly at that time you're getting what they describe.

By the way, I mostly detest analogies but it's like rentals -- sometimes they're there and sometimes they're not.

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Can a Linker help?

So far using a Linker isn't helping but that's using EDID presets. E.g. switching from 4K@60 to 4K@24 causes the ATV to switch to 1080p. It also seems to break DV forcing the ATV to switch to RGB (which isn't even a menu option). So although the execution is flawed the concept seems sound so I'll keep looking at this. There is firmware for a particular projector so HDFury may be able to sort something out or perhaps I just need to construct a very specific EDID record. I'm also using short HDMI jumpers so I might try longer ones.
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I downloaded the Linker manual and will need to study it more. I too suspect it MIGHT present a way to trigger changes to the ATV is a better fashion. (I use the Linker to let me send a UHD signal with HDR to my projector, but avoid sending HDR triggering queue to the projector, since the projector's default HDR mode is inferior to a custom HDR mode my calibrator helped set up.)

For me, if the Linker helps with the ATV output switching, it would need to do it via one of the toggles on the physical device since I don't have a bluetooth dongle for it and I don't have a computer close by to alter the EDID settings easily. At that point, it becomes less cumbersome to just manually adjust the ATV in the settings menu. (Sure wish I could get that Video Output selection button on the Harmony to work for me, like some people have.)

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