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Please elaborate. From the press reports, the issue with forcing HDR appears to be unchanged in 11.1 beta released today.
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Apple is just getting started with resolving the outstanding issues related to HDR content. It's not as if they lack the resources to get it right. This is just an incremental update. Not sure if they have something big in store for the release of the HomePod, but like I said, in six months I'm confident we're going to see a wealth of improvements to how it handles HDR.

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Please elaborate.
I can't speak to the OP's point but video format switches are much faster in 11.1. Not a flicker but maybe a second versus five seconds to get to the okay/cancel prompt. Perhaps this is step one.
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Apple is just getting started with resolving the outstanding issues related to HDR content. It's not as if they lack the resources to get it right. This is just an incremental update. Not sure if they have something big in store for the release of the HomePod, but like I said, in six months I'm confident we're going to see a wealth of improvements to how it handles HDR.
Fair enough.

My definition of fixing the HDR mess is a bit different, but yes, if mapping SDR into an HDR container is the goal, I agree they will continue to tweak and improve that process.

As you might guess, I personally don't think that's a genuine (or complete) fix because it ignores the OTHER HALF of the problem, namely, the compromises most consumer displays suffer from when displaying content in an HDR container -- less accurate REC709 color, less accurate SDR gamma, higher power consumption in some displays, raised black floor in some displays, lack of dynamic dimming/iris/local dimming in some displays, lockout of calibration controls in some displays, etc.

In other words: No matter how good Apple gets at shoving everything into an HDR container, there are many use cases where that is still a suboptimal scenario for the quality of the video that is displayed.

And while I don't have a lot of hope they'll provide an option to have the output type switch based on content type (though that approach works well on UDH blu ray players and on other streaming devices and TV apps), at least doing things like the following will make manually changing settings based on program time a little easier:

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I can't speak to the OP's point but video format switches are much faster in 11.1. Not a flicker but maybe a second versus five seconds to get to the okay/cancel prompt. Perhaps this is step one.

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Thanks for the response. How easy is it to swap between HDR/SDR mode?
Just takes a minute. Open up the Settings app, scroll to the right action, three or four clicks and you are done.

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Is the Amazon Video app for ATV5 out yet?
Not yet but hopefully soon.

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Also, regarding YouTube I've seen that the app on ATV5 just upscales 1080p with no HDR, but that actual 4K support (still no HDR) is coming. Is that accurate?
I can't find any credible report of this, but I would love to be wrong. YouTube has tons of fun UHD content. I would love to see it get supported.

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Just takes a minute. Open up the Settings app, scroll to the right action, three or four clicks and you are done.







Not yet but hopefully soon.







I can't find any credible report of this, but I would love to be wrong. YouTube has tons of fun UHD content. I would love to see it get supported.


Good info, thank you.


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Is the Amazon Video app for ATV5 out yet?

Also, regarding YouTube I've seen that the app on ATV5 just upscales 1080p with no HDR, but that actual 4K support (still no HDR) is coming. Is that accurate?


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Probably not accurate, since google requires the same unsupported codec (vp9) for 4K non-HDR content.
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Bought the Mummy on iTunes and watched it tonight after looking through all of Apple's 4k HDR content and was very pleased with the video; not as pleased with the sound. It was not bad, but it wasn't like listening to a Blu-ray through the Oppo 205.

When I am watching the same movie on the Blu-ray, I need to change the video to movie to make it look right to my eyes. On the iTunes version I thought it looked better in dynamic or normal vs the movie setting. Then again, I have watered down HDR.

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Anyone know how to purchase an iTunes movie that is already in your account? I read that if you "Hide" the purchase it would work to order the 4k version but it didn't work for me.

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