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post #9301 of 9720 Old 05-06-2012, 08:30 AM
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Could anyone check whether the Boxee can play video from this website?

http://www.vtc.com.vn

My sincere thanks,

The video doesn't show up.

But I'm guessing it is more to do with bad webdesign than the video.
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That makes no sense to me, how can Intel just refuse to do that? Is it because Boxee wont pay or what? They should sue them.

Well, Avner will be the guest on this Monday's hometheatergeeks with Scott wilkinson on the twit.tv network. I'm going to get into the chat room during the livestream of the show and see if Scott will pick up my question about HD audio ever being fixed on the BB! Wish me luck!
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If intel won't release the SDK and that is what is needed for the HD audio fix, hounding him wont do any good.
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If intel won't release the SDK and that is what is needed for the HD audio fix, hounding him wont do any good.

I say, keeping reminding them. Maybe next time they'll get assurances for key components of the hardware. We don't want to imply consent with silence!
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Well, Avner will be the guest on this Monday's hometheatergeeks with Scott wilkinson on the twit.tv network. I'm going to get into the chat room during the livestream of the show and see if Scott will pick up my question about HD audio ever being fixed on the BB! Wish me luck!

I'd be interested in knowing how long they have known they would not get the new Intel sdk. They may have no influence or culpability in regards to Intel's actions but they do over their own. I think the Boxee community deserves that much honesty for our $200. A simple "Hey guys, we have not received the sdk yet as we had hoped and may not get it at all. Our hands are tied." on their forum to all the inquiries would have been a classy touch. Yeah it's not Boxee's fault but they could be more forthcoming about it.
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I say, keeping reminding them. Maybe next time they'll get assurances for key components of the hardware. We don't want to imply consent with silence!

They won't get another nickel out of me, they have clearly demonstrated that local content users aren't worth their efforts.
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I'd be interested in knowing how long they have known they would not get the new Intel sdk. They may have no influence or culpability in regards to Intel's actions but they do over their own. I think the Boxee community deserves that much honesty for our $200. A simple "Hey guys, we have not received the sdk yet as we had hoped and may not get it at all. Our hands are tied." on their forum to all the inquiries would have been a classy touch. Yeah it's not Boxee's fault but they could be more forthcoming about it.

He's already said as much in the most recent chat they had.
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They won't get another nickel out of me, they have clearly demonstrated that local content users aren't worth their efforts.

Fair enough. Can't argue with that sentiment, but my point was ...why not stick it to them again and let them know (even though I won't change anything). I agree with the post above, in that they could have done better and let us know earlier that it wouldn't be fixed.
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He's already said as much in the most recent chat they had.

Yeah I listened to it if you are referring to the one from several weeks ago. Isn't there another one coming up? I just feel they should have told us what was going on sooner, they certainly knew well before the chat it would at least be delayed since it takes a lot of time to build around a new sdk. Anyway it gives me something to bitch about.
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Did anyone check out the podcast with Avner as a guest (mentioned above)? If so, anything interesting worth noting in this forum?
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Not really...he did say that the HD problem is "top of mind" for them, but they are at the mercy of Intel and the SDK...and that they understand it is a very frustrating issue for their users that experience this problem. Oh well, at he never said "never."
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Executives never say "never".
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Clearly Boxee released the Boxee Box at least a year ahead of when they should have. I was one of the pre-order customers. It wasn't worth all the headaches along the way.

Go Plex or XBMC and gain a much better home theater experience. Lose the headaches. Cut the Boxee Box cord.

Boxee Box = $200

I3 CPU $100
ASUS MB w/HDMI built in $70
4GB memory $30
old used case $0
Plex or XBMC $0
HTPC=$200

The HDMI out on the ASUS MB to my eyes is equal to the Boxee Box PQ.
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I agree that an HTPC offers a superior experience to Boxee, but I think that the typical Boxee customer, who wants a tiny, fairly quiet, all-in-one device is not going to want to put a large PC in the living room.... your estimate also failed to include the cost of a video card that can do proper 24fps (Intel currently can't), the cost of an OS (Windows is needed for quite a lot of things right now including HD audio streaming), etc.

My HTPC which has a small nearly silent case, an SSD, etc, cost me about $500 total and was worth every penny, however, it is harder to do things like Netflix, etc, from such a device (running XBMC) than it is from the Boxee Box.

The Boxee, as pathetic as it is, is currently the best in class out there.... which says a lot, about how bad things are for those of us who want to stream our own stuff.
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I neglected the OS and go with an small SSD (quiet and low power) for the OS. Some folks are using Linux so the OS could be a free option. Don't know about 24fps. To me I don't a diff between the BB and the ASUS HDMI out.

Frankly, the things that did the BB in for me was the random freezing/hanging, the extremely long scraping time, the inability to update changes to the DB other the the one at a time manual way in the BB or remove and re-add sources, the frequent BB won't shut down. Long boot times.

Scraping on Plex or XBMC is lightning fast by comparison. It doesn't have that bogged down slow feel.

Plex UI by far is the perdiest of em' all.
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I think that there are a lot of good alternatives to Boxee, but all of them are more expensive and require more user effort to get things working. All of them have a lot of "compromises" such as lack of HD audio support, lack of online content support, etc.

What this market needs is a $199 box that just runs plex or XBMC, supports HD audio, does Netflix... works with our universal remotes, etc.

Unfortunately that is a very tall order, as Boxee have found out.
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The Boxee objective paradigm was flawed. They should have striven to produce the most solid local media streamer with their spiffy UI as a big plus relative to the competitors and, provide for premium online such as Netflix and Hulu.

Instead, Boxee wanted the be the king of all online content. The problem with all online content, a majority is flaky at best. Add inadequate hardware to the mix and you have the recipe for failure. In essence, Boxee bit off a lot more than they could chew. I see them flailing along here.

Since I'm familiar with building my own PC's I should have taken the XBMC route a long time ago and saved the headaches. Setting up Plex or XBMC on a PC was no more difficult than learning what and how to deploy NFO and TBN files at the time Boxee implemented local resource support.

Have said the aforementioned, since the BB, I3's have been released from Intel making for a cost effective and appropriate media server solution and both Plex and XBNC have recently released updates of their software now making for a superior UI solution to the Boxee.
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Has there been any update when Hulu Plus might arrive on it?
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Hulu Plus? Ha ha, that's a good one.
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I wouldn't count on Hulu Plus.
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What about Amazon streaming?

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^ that would be nice.
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Hulu Plus? Ha ha, that's a good one.

Lol, I hear ya but have not lost hope yet. not really waiting for it but might help.
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What about Amazon streaming?

I'd love to see Amazon on Demand on Boxee, However, I don't know what Amazon's problem is but they are seriously dragging their feet when it comes to supporting devices(not just Boxee). They say how they wanna best Netflix but ya can't do that if people don't have access to your product.

Amazon needs to get off their duff and get their streaming on a LOT more devices.
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I'd love to see Amazon on Demand on Boxee, However, I don't know what Amazon's problem is but they are seriously dragging their feet when it comes to supporting devices(not just Boxee). They say how they wanna best Netflix but ya can't do that if people don't have access to your product.

Amazon needs to get off their duff and get their streaming on a LOT more devices.

They need to also offer it for a monthly fee if they want to get alot more people signed up for it. Otherwise it's $79 all at once which is only good for people that will use Prime shipping and order enough packages in a year to be worth it.

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I imagine the pricing is the way it is by design, until they are really ready. Think of it as an extended beta test. Since everyone paying $79 is really paying for the shipping benefits, you don't hear super loud complaints about the streaming deficiencies (content, devices etc) I'm sure when they have all their ducks lined up, and are really ready to compete, they will tweak their pricing structure.
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I'm amazed at how many people still use the remotes that come with equipment.

Right...I barely use the OEM remote with the awesome Boxee thumb-remote Android app that gives you full control, with keyboard and metadata/album art. Slick!
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To be honest my gf has amazon prime and more than half of there shows and movies arent even offered though it. Just older shows netflix streaming has more to offer with there membership.
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Just got email from Dlink

Pre-order your MovieNiteTM Plus from Amazon until
6/30/12 and receive a $10 Amazon.com gift card!
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Pre-order your MovieNiteTM Plus from Amazon until
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SO the people who ordered the regular MovieNite box gets shafted? Or is Dlink upgrading their box to the plus version? The boxes seem to be the same but the plus version has more apps.
I would buy another Roku2 box before getting the MovieNite Plus box.

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