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//August 2013 update

 

Samsung has acquired Boxee and the Boxee forums are shutdown.  Boxee kept the carrot of new firmware going right up until the acquisition but it is extremely unlikely that it will ever be released.

 

For those that want to keep up with the latest goings on regarding Boxee (help with firmware recovery, news about trying to hack Boxee, etc) refer to these forums;

 

Also worth noting, we do not know if and when Boxee will pull the plug on their servers.  When that happens, all online content will cease functioning as Boxee downloads apps from Boxee HQ each time they are launched.  The box will still be useable for local content but it might become necessary to use file browser mode to view/play files.

 

 

[quote name="dyevin" url="/t/1286552/boxee-box-owners-thread-reviews-tips-tricks-bugs-and-feature-requests/9600#post_23658529"]
a few of the users at the old boxee forums have set up forums here:
 
 
 
and another user is trying to get the boxee subreddit up to speed with info:
 

 

//October 2012 Update.

 

[quote]Just an update all and I will be editing the 1st post to reflect the latest info.

 
1. Boxee is releasing new hardware with a focus on cloud storage and DVR type TV recording.  This box is based on Broadcom SOC chip solution that will not be as capable of playing high quality local content (think similar to Roku).  This product will be released in November 2012.
 
 
2.  Boxee will provide a "small update" to the Boxee Box V1 to update Flash and other things and then Boxee V1 goes into 'maintenance mode'.  What does maintenance mode mean?  If it's anything like what we've seen in the lack of new firmware over the past six months it means that it is highly unlikely that we will see any further FW update. Effectively Boxee V1 goes end of life and any remaining bugs (HD Audio, etc) will not be fixed.
 
3.  There are very preliminary efforts to install software on Boxee Box V1, so it is possible (though unlikely) that at some point in the future our Boxee Boxes will be repurposed as XBMC machines or for other purposes.  I would imagine any such efforts are quite a long ways out.
 
I will continue using my 3 Boxee Boxes for the time being, until a better local media playback device becomes available for playing my BD rips.  I've already replaced the Boxee in my main viewing area with a really good HTPC running XBMC and for local media playback I could not be happier.[/quote]

 

Boxee has started shipping and the 1.0 firmware has appeared in an online review, so the firmware should be available to us mere mortals later today.

Here's some early tips;

  • Boxee naming conventions guide for best scraping results from IMDB
  • Official Boxee Box owner's guide.
  • Reset Boxee Box to factory defaults by powering the box off, waiting 30 seconds then hold the power button down for between 6 and 8 seconds (no more than that). Thanks Darcilicious for this one.
  • Here for instructions on how to collect debug logs.
  • Here for instructions on how to USB flash firmware onto Boxee Box.
  • Get the most out of your Boxee with this article's tips.

how do I use local artwork and nfo files with Boxee Box as of release SP3?



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Maybe Jason can put this in the first post of this huge thread...

I have each movie in it's own folder, named for example 'The Matrix (1999)'. Then, in that folder, a 'The Matrix (1999).mkv', a 'The Matrix (1999).nfo', and a 'folder.jpg'.

The .nfo should only include the full IMDb URL. The folder.jpg is the movie poster I downloaded from www.themoviedb.org, which I resized down to 480x320, which looks good enough to me on my front projection.

Known issues in version 1.0 SP3 as of 01/19/2011;

  • True-HD is decoded to LPCM.. is not bitstreamed
  • DTS-MA bitstream output has momentary moment of silence or "gap" during playback.
  • As previously noted, the boxee box does not support bd menus (I.E. DUNE, C200, etc...).this was never an advertised feature but some users seem confused... thanks dr. bone.
  • Chapter selection markers not seen for DVD ISO created with Clone DVD.
  • USB IR remote control is very limited at this time. There are two USB IR remote types that work with Boxee Box, MCE2 emulators (such as HP, Dell or other "Windows Media Center" remotes, as well as the "Ortek VRC-1100" remote control. For each of these remote types, various buttons do not work, and in some cases there are problems with remote sensitivity, etc. See the Boxee Remote thread for more information.
  • No real FF/REW control on Boxee remote, too many button pushes for things like audio changes, chapter selection, etc.

Boxee software has improved a lot since release. This is my followup video that shows the current state of the Boxee as well as a sneak peek at the new Vudu application which is working wonderfully on Boxee Box as of Jan 19 2011.

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Boxee local media (movie/TV) naming conventions.

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*reserved for my review*

So did you put in for a preorder again? I thought you had decided to wait on getting one?

I'm waiting until I can get one from BestBuy. With my Reward Zone Dollars there won't be an out of pocket cost for me.

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So did you put in for a preorder again? I thought you had decided to wait on getting one?

I'm waiting until I can get one from BestBuy. With my Reward Zone Dollars there won't be an out of pocket cost for me.

I will have access to a Boxee Box pretty much as soon as they are available from Amazon.com. I still don't plan on ordering for myself until a few more pieces fall into place including fixing the forced subtitle issue.
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Unnecessary posts removed.

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Unnecessary posts removed.

thanks, hopefully this thread will manage to stay relatively on topic and civil.
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You're welcome.

Could always close it until the first one arrives. I'll leave it open for now.

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Hopefully I'm an owner tomorrow! Exciting!
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Will get it tomorrow
Thanks to Amazon Prime

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Just keep rubbing it in.

No status change on mine yet.
But I only preordered it a few days ago.

I certainly looking forward to VUDU on the Boxee Box.

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For those getting their Boxee Box today from Amazon or Futureshop, please report what firmware version is on the box after it does its initial update.

Thanks.
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For those getting their Boxee Box today from Amazon or Futureshop, please report what firmware version is on the box after it does its initial update.

Thanks.

Will you be borrowing one today for a video review?
If so, when do you think you'll get the initial observation video posted?

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Will you be borrowing one today for a video review?
If so, when do you think you'll get the initial observation video posted?

No one I know who had a pre-order had it ship out yet, so no.
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Mine is out for delivery. As soon as I get it hooked up I will report back.
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For those getting their Boxee Box today from Amazon or Futureshop, please report what firmware version is on the box after it does its initial update.

Thanks.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post19465375

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Confirmed - No 1.0 update as of yet.

My update just completed and I'm running:

Boxee Version: 0.9.21.14168
Build Date: Sept 20, 2010

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Rogo comments... unedited.

* It's even smaller in real life than it looks in pictures. With a shelf-based AV rack, you can find a home for this unless you have shelves filled only with things like AVRs and PCs.

* Remote is flawed but amazing. First, every damn remote should be RF. Please already. Second, battery power out of the box, woot. Third, tiny but not too tiny. Using it in the dark will probably suck. Update: OK, it's not amazing. The buttons are squishy. I need currently to look at it every time I want to type something and then look up at the screen. The caps is modal, the "alt" for numbers and such is not.

* Entering numbers in your password is annoying because unlike mobile phones, Boxee doesn't briefly display the value in the password field before obscuring it. Somehow, I did launch the onscreen keyboard and got past this easily.

* My WHS is not currently up and running -- it's offline for some drive upgrades -- so I can't do much video testing. I'll see what I can drum up though.

* Pandora app seems to have a bug that prevents me from entering a period using the keyboard to enter my e-mail. Nevermind that -- as usual -- I have no idea what my login is. Update: Pandora up and running. It has never ever sounded this good in my house. Audio decoding does not suck on Boxee. 2nd update: Kelly Clarkson can really sing, even with minimal/zero Auto Tune. Not enough of those people around anymore.

* I don't like the way the overscan adjustment works and probably need to RTFM. First of all, the onscreen gives me no definitely answer on how to set it up. Second of all, I'm pretty sure the box in the middle is not square, but not sure how eyeballing it would really help much.

* I've yet to stream a single video. Fancast-based stuff was slow to load (I gave up). PlayOn was not being helpful... A random Smallville that was available is stuttering through ads. Update: The Smallville is playing. It's streaming from wb.com and it's from Season 1. Lex is missed, that's for sure.

* I cannot do anything to get it to add my laptop as a source. I type in the username and password I created and, well, nothing happens. It just goes back to the username and password fields.

* OK, I'm streaming an episode of Nova. It looks good. That said, I'm really bored of this right now. I'm sure it's user error, but I have a nice .mkv of The Hurt Locker trapped on my laptop right now and I can't make the laptop talk to the Boxee and, well, I've had enough.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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I LOVE the remote... in daylight. Without lighting, well, I'm sorry to say, it does suck (I revert to my iPhone remote which gives me a keyboard).

I'm eagerly awaiting the next gen with backlighting. Seriously, it had better happen.
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I LOVE the remote... in daylight. Without lighting, well, I'm sorry to say, it does suck (I revert to my iPhone remote which gives me a keyboard).

I'm eagerly awaiting the next gen with backlighting. Seriously, it had better happen.

A rechargeable with a tabletop dock (a la Harmony) for like $69 with some rudimentary AV control would be nice.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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Maybe D-Link will recognize an opportunity to sell an add-on remote if the BBox sells really well.
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I'm amazed at how many people still use the remotes that come with equipment.

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given the 0.9 sw, any interesting differences from the PC or other versions of Boxee?

can you share any settings related to what you'd normally find in Windows or
another OS, like audio setup? network setup?

any changes to how shares are handled?

anyone able to telnet to it or get in some other way and mess with things like home.xml?
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I'm amazed at how many people still use the remotes that come with equipment.

ya i'd rather see a harmony remote with a nice keyboard on the back : )
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I'm amazed at how many people still use the remotes that come with equipment.

I agree but the thing with Boxee is the RF remote so trying to learn IR commands on your universal remote is going to be a challenge
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I agree but the thing with Boxee is the RF remote so trying to learn IR commands on your universal remote is going to be a challenge

Good Point.

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Now that folks are getting their Boxee Box can we kill the anticipation thread, never seen so much whining and conspiracy theories lol

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Now that folks are getting their Boxee Box can we kill the anticipation thread, never seen so much whining and conspiracy theories lol

Most people won't get their box until tomorrow or Monday of next week, so the whining most continue!

In other news, someone just posted a screen cap of the demo video that was briefly up at Boxee's new site, it looks pretty awesome, light years ahead of other streamers that are out there.
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Now that folks are getting their Boxee Box can we kill the anticipation thread, never seen so much whining and conspiracy theories lol


I'm still anticipating mine to be shipped today. I just hope UPS doesn't screw me and not deliver it tomorrow because of the holiday. I've had that issue in the past with holidays like Veterans day and delivery to my package acceptance facility. With the UPS driver claiming they were closed, yet they were actually open their usual hours from 9Am to 6PM and even had UPS and FEDEX pickups.

and by the time I found out that i would not be working tomorrow, it was already in the "shipping Soon" phase so i could not change it to delivery at home.

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* My WHS is not currently up and running -- it's offline for some drive upgrades -- so I can't do much video testing. I'll see what I can drum up though.

Boxee curse?





My WHS OS drive **** out ... and I'm currently on assignment weekdays. I honestly don't know when I'll be able to rebuild the thing and really test/use my BoxeeBox

Christmas vacation?
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Christmas?!!?

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