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TPeterson,
Let me try and explain.
I have multiple displays (Plasma, LCD, DLP, LCD w/LED backlighting). Let's say 5-6 televisions. But, 3 are the most important. No computer displays though they aren't much different.
If I had the the Xroid connected to the M6620N and say a WD Live or Roku then figure a way to connect them to all the tv's I'd be set.
Maybe I need some type of hub.

I assume firmware upgrades will be coming.

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What Kei and jakmal said.
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Kei Clark do you have contacts at Tvix ?

Do you know if they have any plans for a built in coverart/jukebox on their players, Tvix make interesting boxes like the A1 which are cutting edge in some ways but archaic in others like having to use an application on your PC and dump jpg files into folders.

Which is what Tvix is still doing from their PR shots making you change from list mode to thumbnail mode but it cant be outside Tvix technical skills to do something better given everything else they do.

Plex and QVIVO run under Android so advanced jukeboxes are not impossible on Android.

Hopefully you could tell them to copy Boxee, have a movie and tv show section then when the box is idle scan the media SMB/NFS sources, only enable the feature if there is a HDD inside the box so it can cache the data locally for better performance, go one step better than Syabas/Western Digital with their own built in jukeboxes which have eliminated the PC app side but still dump jpg files into folders.
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Do you know if they have any plans for a built in coverart/jukebox on their players{?}....

Why do you think that the Minevox folks have been sweating bullets to try and get this Android-based player ready for sale? The main point is to open it up for 3rd-party apps that would free the box from its PC tether. But right now we're at "no chicken and no egg" in this game.
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OK no multiple outputs. Sucks

Really what good is the Xroid if it can't stream video.

Playing stored movies is not challenging. It doesn't record anything.

All it does is display internet on a display of your choice. Who really cares about large displays of someones home movie (YouTube). Is it for social networking, now there's a waste of life.

Just don't see the allure.

I'll sure I just don't have enough information. I'm into home theater type functions. I have a radio and ipod player. Not sure the advantage of pictures being displayed on something other than a laptop.

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Steve, I was stuck at wondering "Why Android?" for quite a while too. But then I waked up to the fact that, for one example, it will allow those who want to set up a DVD/BD video jukebox to install an app (TBD) that would replace the tedious function of defining the front-end menu system by harvesting online information on a PC and then copying it to the STB. That could be very slick indeed. I expect that others will come up with even better ideas. (And when the model with a tuner emerges, an open-source "TiVo" app is also possible)
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I guess I'm not quite following you.
Jukebox is just a library right. If all the DVD/BD are just files what's the big deal. My M-6620NP handles all that and it records.

If the Xroid recorded then is might be of interest. I could use another OTA recorder. Just wouldn't buy another M6620NP.
The M6620NP is great that it recorders but there are many annoying characteristic that I don't like. These are addressed on the other forum.
Maybe Xroid will be better.
I guess I'll have to wait.
The Xroid considers itself as a Streaming media. Yet it is can't stream the stuff you really want.
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Jukebox is just a library right{?}....

Right. One that is currently tedious to set up properly (i.e., with cover art, synopses, etc.) on TViX Xroid is a step toward simplifying that.
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The Xroid considers itself as a Streaming media. Yet it is can't stream the stuff you really want.

Huh? It streams everything that earlier TViX models do, AFAIK.
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Why do you think that the Minevox folks have been sweating bullets to try and get this Android-based player ready for sale? The main point is to open it up for 3rd-party apps that would free the box from its PC tether. But right now we're at "no chicken and no egg" in this game.

Do these devices allow anyone to install apps to be installed and run on the device, or only signed apps which are "blessed" by the manufacturer?

If they are signed, then the app market will be very, very limited. Hopefully anyone can compile and run their own code on the platform like a pc/mac, but I somehow see dvico wanting to monetize the app market??? Time will tell.

It would be kinda cool to be able to control my HDHR Prime and regular HDHR's from the Tvix and expand its PVR capabilities or just to watch live TV for copy freely content.
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Is that how people view streaming video.
YouTube, Old and limited Discovery tidbit,Yogamazing,filmtrailer,SinaTV, YouKu, etc..
Seriously! That's the crap available on my M6620N.
To me streaming video means streaming anything I can access on the internet. Real programming like Hulu, NetFlix, etc.. ESPN, Pay Professional sports. These TVix devices are very limited with streams and now with Xroid Apps, a very Socialistic approach.

I ask these question and point at deficiencies because I want them to get it right. I really like TViX equipment, but it not even comes close to what I want.
Hopefully for TViX I'm a minority.
"I want my MTV" , just quoting. What I really want is access to all released cable/satellite programming without the major company fees. Small fees of my choice I don't mind. Over a $1,000/year to watch tv is ridiculous.
Ok I'm done rambling. Thanks for listening.
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Plex have released their GoogleTV client, what Tvix/Minevox should do is approach Plex and and get a version of that for the Xroid A1.

The A1 is a better media player box than the Google TV and would at at least fill the gap in terms of a missing jukebox and get a lot of Plex users interested in the A1.
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I'm just getting Boxee Box. The Xroid is just not that exciting.
It certianly has the potential to be something special.
I'll keep an eye on it, but it has a long way to go before it's a viable option.
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Anyone recieve their A1 that bought at the sale price?

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Is that how people view streaming video.
YouTube, Old and limited Discovery tidbit,Yogamazing,filmtrailer,SinaTV, YouKu, etc..
Seriously! That's the crap available on my M6620N.
To me streaming video means streaming anything I can access on the internet. Real programming like Hulu, NetFlix, etc.. ESPN, Pay Professional sports. These TVix devices are very limited with streams and now with Xroid Apps, a very Socialistic approach.

I ask these question and point at deficiencies because I want them to get it right. I really like TViX equipment, but it not even comes close to what I want.
Hopefully for TViX I'm a minority.
"I want my MTV" , just quoting. What I really want is access to all released cable/satellite programming without the major company fees. Small fees of my choice I don't mind. Over a $1,000/year to watch tv is ridiculous.
Ok I'm done rambling. Thanks for listening.

I have to agree with you on this...drop the social media crap and put the real stuff in there - hulu, netflix, Espn3, etc.

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Plex have released their GoogleTV client, what Tvix/Minevox should do is approach Plex and and get a version of that for the Xroid A1.

Huh? The A1 can play local and internet media without a proprietary server such as Plex installed on a local PC/Mack. The main point, IMO, is to get rid of the PC/Mack tether and provide a complete video jukebox solution in a STB!
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Do these devices allow anyone to install apps to be installed and run on the device, or only signed apps which are "blessed" by the manufacturer?

If they are signed, then the app market will be very, very limited. Hopefully anyone can compile and run their own code on the platform like a pc/mac, but I somehow see dvico wanting to monetize the app market??? Time will tell.

It would be kinda cool to be able to control my HDHR Prime and regular HDHR's from the Tvix and expand its PVR capabilities or just to watch live TV for copy freely content.

The idea is to allow you to install any app of your choice, I very much doubt Minevox has plans to make money from app market.

The current limitation, as mentioned previously is that most apps are written for smartphone processors and are not compatible with Sigma/Realtek processors so no Netflix, Hulu, etc. currently. As Terry mentioned, the chicken/egg problem, none of the apps are compiled for MIPS boxes.

Minevox invested lots of time and resources (more than I would have preferred) into building the actual video player on Android instead of taking a shortcut of dual booting so that user isn't forced to deal with two separate interfaces. I'm sure they are eyeing GoogleTV, but for the time being, it is at least a Network Media Player as advertised.

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Hi, I just received and tested a "Tvix Xriod A1" 3 days ago.

I have bought a TVIX M6500A before, and really like it. It played everything I
threw at it and the quality is very good. But now I need it to play RMVB and FLV files, but it couldn't. Although it's still working fine.

I had been thinking about to upgrade it to "TVIX Slim S1" , and then I found out the "Tvix Xriod A1" is coming out with USB 3.0, so I got it the first day it was for sale. Big mistakes!!!


> 1. I got tons of RMVB and FLV files, but "Tvix Xriod A1" cannot play
> any of them, not even one.
> 2. The other formats of HD video files and APE Music files I have was
> playing fine by the good old M6500A, but became choppy images, no
> sound or simply don't get play by the "Xriod A1" at all.
> 3. The photos I took in HD 16:9 size became 4:3 format even though I
> have change the Xriod A1 resolution to 1080p 16:9 proportion.
> 4. When I plugged in the USB portable drive I have into the Xriod A1,
> sometimes it get recognized, sometimes it doesn't.

First I thought maybe if I upgrade it to the latest firmware, and the problem will be gone, but I found out it comes with the latest firmware.

I'm ready to return it and get a slim S1.
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Hi, I just received and tested a "Tvix Xriod A1" 3 days ago.

I have bought a TVIX M6500A before, and really like it. It played everything I
threw at it and the quality is very good. But now I need it to play RMVB and FLV files, but it couldn't. Although it's still working fine.

I should have mentioned earlier, but RMVB capability will not be available until the firmware from the next SDK is released. Sigma has never been able to play .flv files.....though I found it can play some file now as long as the underlying codec used is mpeg4 or something other than flash or VP6.

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I had been thinking about to upgrade it to "TVIX Slim S1" , and then I found out the "Tvix Xriod A1" is coming out with USB 3.0, so I got it the first day it was for sale. Big mistakes!!!

Agreed, if you really wanted to use RMVB or FLV files, Realtek based players are better bet.


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> 1. I got tons of RMVB and FLV files, but "Tvix Xriod A1" cannot play
> any of them, not even one.
> 2. The other formats of HD video files and APE Music files I have was
> playing fine by the good old M6500A, but became choppy images, no
> sound or simply don't get play by the "Xriod A1" at all.
> 3. The photos I took in HD 16:9 size became 4:3 format even though I
> have change the Xriod A1 resolution to 1080p 16:9 proportion.
> 4. When I plugged in the USB portable drive I have into the Xriod A1,
> sometimes it get recognized, sometimes it doesn't.

I have not used the player for music much, just long enough to test it for use with MP3 and FLAC. APE is now supported in the Realtek (S1) player.

As I have mentioned before, this is not a good player to consider, especially this early in the release if you're lookng to play all file types....there is still work to do on some older files (especially with aspect ratio).

The best outcome so far for me has been with playback of Blu-Ray/DVD and recorded transport stream (MPEG-2 and H.264) files....everything else has been unpredictable.

What I have noticed, when the files do play as it should, is the video processing seems to be quite good, better than I have seen in past players.
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Hello everyone, long time I have not been here. What is the latest news on BD menu playback? Can this player now play BD structures with full menus? By BD I mean unencrypted open Bluray files on hard drives with menus. popcorn hour a-300 can read those with menus. No BD-Lite.
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Hello everyone, long time I have not been here. What is the latest news on BD menu playback? Can this player now play BD structures with full menus? By BD I mean unencrypted open Bluray files on hard drives with menus. popcorn hour a-300 can read those with menus. No BD-Lite.

Word is that is an unofficial feature on the A300 and who knows how long that will stay in place.

The XROID A1 only supports BD Lite in the latest firmware, full BD menu playback is possible under Android but it would require development.

Kei Clark if you can pass this on to Tvix there is a compatibility issue with Apple Airport Express units when used as an ethernet to wireless bridge on Tvix players in particular the A1, they don't work so maybe they could fix that.

Tvix really needs to setup it's own official forum they are way behind the times compared to everyone else in this area.
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Word is that is an unofficial feature on the A300 and who knows how long that will stay in place.

I think it will stay forever. It's like A-210 it supports full menu. When the BD structure is open and unencrypted, there is no problem or licensing issue, so it will stay.

Tvix should develop full menu support for this.
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How is this box shaping up? Safe to buy one yet, most of the bugs worked out? Does it play an HD material without hick-ups?

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How is this box shaping up? Safe to buy one yet, most of the bugs worked out? Does it play an HD material without hick-ups?

It still does not offer all the functions of a TViX, but it's improving steadily. There is a new SDK on the horizon which should fix some functions like audio multi-tasking (currently you have to switch back between standard and HD audio), and will add the 24Hz support.
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So will it do the following now?
Play HD Movies
Play Flac
no issues with either? I pick a sound track and want it to play. Does it have that functionality?

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I would love to see this with ota tuners.

I looked at the real world labs review dated 10/4/2011.
Why do all their screen captures say feb 2011?
has the unit been out that long.

still not too sure about sigma 10/100 what else don't they do like realtek?
rwl did say image quality was top notch. They didn't say anything about upconverting or bd menus/chapter select.
what about a bd player plugged into either the sata or usb ports?

with a unit like this is their wireless adapter the only one supported or can you get your own and import drivers or course you don't use wireless on your android so probably nothing out there.

netflix cert would be a lot bigger sales feature than trying to chatting online. Social networking I guess that is something but to me its a 0
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So will it do the following now?
Play HD Movies
Play Flac
no issues with either? I pick a sound track and want it to play. Does it have that functionality?

It plays DVD/TS/H.264 and BD though there development is on-going with the BD features.

Yes, it plays Flac encoded music files.

Like most media players, the music player is not the best implementation, but yes it works. I'm personally hoping to see better Android music app.
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I would love to see this with ota tuners.

Tuner is possible but not definitive yet....still looking into how it would be supported under Android.


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I looked at the real world labs review dated 10/4/2011.
Why do all their screen captures say feb 2011?
has the unit been out that long.

It's been in works that long, but it was released late October.

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still not too sure about sigma 10/100 what else don't they do like realtek?
rwl did say image quality was top notch. They didn't say anything about upconverting or bd menus/chapter select.
what about a bd player plugged into either the sata or usb ports?

The image quality for upscaling is visibly better than Realtek but that's just my opinion.

No menu support, the player is BD-Lite implementation. Don't know if BD optical drive support is planned.

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with a unit like this is their wireless adapter the only one supported or can you get your own and import drivers or course you don't use wireless on your android so probably nothing out there.

Sorry, not sure what you mean.

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netflix cert would be a lot bigger sales feature than trying to chatting online. Social networking I guess that is something but to me its a 0

Netflix is probably out unless there is an app developed for MIPS.
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Sorry if it's been asked, but is there any plans in the works for a tuner and Pvr in this modle? And has any one cracked the box to see if there is a tunner slot that might be used in latter builds?
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