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John,
The reason some people have said your math is off, is because you said this...
probably just a typo.
Ahh! your right! I fixed it! Thanks. 1000 movies.
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Why are you guys making this so complicated? biggrin.gif

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I guess it comes down to spending ~$1 per movie for "lossless" storage. smile.gif

well, for me it's $2 per movie. smile.gif But it's paying for all that in one lump sum is the problem I have.
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well, for me it's $2 per movie. smile.gif But it's paying for all that in one lump sum is the problem I have.

$2 ... you're not in the U.S.?

Anyway, I was going to start with six 2TB drives, with one as parity. The rest of the plan was to rip and when they got close to full, I'd add some more. I do have a tower case with six front bays and I did buy two 5-in-3 cages which would allow me to install ten drives. Like Kelson, I would never exceed that because some movies would "fall off" my "might-watch-it-some-day" list and be deleted.

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how are you guys storing so many HDD's? My mobo has 8 SATA ports. 4 are used by non-media storage (Personal files, OS, 2 optical drives). That leaves me with 4 sata ports. I have two 2TB drives and a 1TB drive, and space for one more drive.

Are you guys adding sata controller cards to your rigs?
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how are you guys storing so many HDD's? My mobo has 8 SATA ports. 4 are used by non-media storage (Personal files, OS, 2 optical drives). That leaves me with 4 sata ports. I have two 2TB drives and a 1TB drive, and space for one more drive.

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how are you guys storing so many HDD's? My mobo has 8 SATA ports. 4 are used by non-media storage (Personal files, OS, 2 optical drives). That leaves me with 4 sata ports. I have two 2TB drives and a 1TB drive, and space for one more drive.

Are you guys adding sata controller cards to your rigs?
Either eSATA or USB-3. Then 4-bay or 8-bay external enclosures.

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These things are usually dependable? There's a Rosewill 2 port card on there for $20.
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I have a 4 bay enclosure. Two 3TB drive and two 2TB ones.

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how do you fellas backup your data?
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All the discs sitting in a box smile.gif

I did lose a drive around christmas time - it became corrupted and I lost the master file table. Almost everything was recoverable on it, but the file names were scrambed. Figuring out which movie was which wasn't difficult, but that drive housed all the documentaries I've been recording for 10 years. This is leading me to probably consider a raid parity solution sometime this year.
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yeah, this is why I do a 1-1 backup. I have a 4 bay enclosure as my backup drive. twice as many HDD's than raid but it gives me piece of mind.
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how are you guys storing so many HDD's? My mobo has 8 SATA ports. 4 are used by non-media storage (Personal files, OS, 2 optical drives). That leaves me with 4 sata ports. I have two 2TB drives and a 1TB drive, and space for one more drive.

Are you guys adding sata controller cards to your rigs?

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These things are usually dependable? There's a Rosewill 2 port card on there for $20.

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how do you fellas backup your data?

These topics would be better discussed in the http://www.avsforum.com/f/26/home-theater-computers section. There are already many topics that address these questions. In a 5000 post thread about Blu-ray ripping we should try to keep the posts relevant to the topic for the people getting ready to read all 5000 posts smile.gif
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All the discs sitting in a box smile.gif

I did lose a drive around christmas time - it became corrupted and I lost the master file table. Almost everything was recoverable on it, but the file names were scrambed. Figuring out which movie was which wasn't difficult, but that drive housed all the documentaries I've been recording for 10 years. This is leading me to probably consider a raid parity solution sometime this year.


+1 You back up are the BD and DVD disk you in storage. Unless you are one of those who illegally rip rental movies.

I agree. You don't need to back up your ripped content since you already have hard copies of them. Unless you are one of those who copies rental movies.

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+1 You back up are the BD and DVD disk you in storage. Unless you are one of those who illegally rip rental movies.

When I first got into streaming images of my discs, it took a lot of learning, labor and money. When I found out about people illegally downloading an entire movie library (!!!??) man that made me mad. It took me half a year to create my movie images. Then I learned (or suspected) that some teenage punk has a library 10 times bigger than mine, and he got it for free! Dang thief! Then it hit me; why bother with hate, anger, jealousy or snide remarks about how Joe got/might have got the movie... unless it is suspected that Joe has a bad mkv and is blaming the media player for being defective. I have only read a few pages of this thread, and I saw nothing in John's posts that deserve your comment about "Unless you are one of those who illegally rip rental movies".

I do the same thing John does. I make backups of my rips. After ripping, I consider my discs disposable, loan-able, and have even given a few away to friends and family. I never want to rip my discs again, it is just way too much work or time consuming. I am no thief, I clearly explain my position to my kids... even when I have ripped a rented disc, -wha!!?? It stays in my house and has never been distributed. Except for that Al Gore documentary, man my Mom in Florida wanted 20 disc copies to spread the word and she got em'. If Al swings by, I will write him a check.

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There are several missing words in GusGus's post... I can barely comprehend it but I don't think he was implying that John was pirating. I could be wrong though.
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There are several missing words in GusGus's post... I can barely comprehend it but I don't think he was implying that John was pirating. I could be wrong though.

A bit vague and in-direct, but the implication is there. Just seen that kinda negativity too often and wish that subject could be mentioned or implied less often. One reason is; because it is out there and I like to pretend it is not. Another reason is because it detracts and defames the core principals of what the community does here. Please forgive me and my rant.

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A sophisticated RAID card is not needed. This card is overkill, IMO.
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There are several missing words in GusGus's post... I can barely comprehend it but I don't think he was implying that John was pirating. I could be wrong though.

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A sophisticated RAID card is not needed. This card is overkill, IMO.

I use it in my UnRaid server to expand to 8 more drives. I've got a second one for another UnRaid server I will be building in the future.

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It is a GREAT card. For someone starting out, it should be pointed out that software RAID solutions like unRAID do not use the processing power on a hardware RAID card like the Supermicro. All that is needed is more SATA ports, and there are less expensive cards that will do that.
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A sophisticated RAID card is not needed. This card is overkill, IMO.

That card is not sophisticated in any way shape or form. It's about as basic as a HBA gets. It's is not even a real RAID card. But for under $100 and 8-drive support they rule.
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I bought 2 of these card for $40 dollars each wink.gif.

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I bought 2 of these card for $40 dollars each wink.gif.

Where?!?! Great price!
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My unRAID box is using the AOC-SASLP-MV8 HBA and it has been rock solid for 3 years. I'd buy another without hesitation.

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That card is not sophisticated in any way shape or form. It's about as basic as a HBA gets. It's is not even a real RAID card. But for under $100 and 8-drive support they rule.
I use Mediasonic eSATA cards in my Media-PC. Two eSATA ports, port multiplier, 8-drive support, SATA III -- $15 on Amazon. I get 880Mbps sustained network transfer rates between the drives controlled by this card and my main desktop PC.

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I use Mediasonic eSATA cards in my Media-PC. Two eSATA ports, port multiplier, 8-drive support, SATA III -- $15 on Amazon. I get 880Mbps sustained network transfer rates between the drives controlled by this card and my main desktop PC.

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Where?!?! Great price!

At the Lime Tech Forum Classified section. I've seen some on fleebay as well.

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I use Mediasonic eSATA cards in my Media-PC. Two eSATA ports, port multiplier, 8-drive support, SATA III -- $15 on Amazon. I get 880Mbps sustained network transfer rates between the drives controlled by this card and my main desktop PC.

But that is an external port card for cases with multipliers. For internal drives for 8-drives with only two plugs you can beta the SMs.
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I have a few thoughts on current discussions.

First, as already suggested by somebody else, this really isn't a thread devoted to hardware. I realize there is some necessary overlap, but I'd really appreciate it if you looked at another thread (perhaps start one yourself) if you want to have a lengthy discussion about hardware. You don't have a whole lot of options for backing up. Either you use some sort of redundant solution like raid, buy extra drives, or do like I do and suffer the consequences of reripping your discs if one of your drives goes down. I have to say that while the latter is a huge amount of work (I'm going through it now), I found that it forced me to do a "spring cleaning" of my movie collection.


With regards to ripping and storage considerations, I have to say that this is not for the faint of heart. If you are going to keep your entire collection of movies in digital format, you are going to need a lot of storage space. As a personal note, I'm not sure why one would buy and compress movies for digital storage in lieu of other online streaming services such as Amazon, Netflix, etc. Once you start looking at lower quality images I would think that these services would offer an attractive price point.


Going back to subtitles, I really appreciate everyone's solutions to pulling out the subs for inspection before processing. I think they will be most useful. Having said that, I find that it's still much easier to search the subtitles thread. For example, I'm ripping the Incredibles. I know there is a subtitle that needs to be forced. I ran a search that took two seconds, and I got a post (my own) that details what sub I need to force. For that reason, I really encourage people to post in that thread.
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