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DVD can use 640kbps for DD 5.1, but it hardly ever did.
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DVD can use 640kbps for DD 5.1, but it hardly ever did.

You have a link?  My thoughts and wikipedia agree on 448kbps

 

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It may not be standard, but a 640kb/s track was included on some DVDs. They were usually music videos, e.g. this one. Not all equipment would play those tracks.
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Pink Floyd - Pulse concert DVD gives you a choice for 640 w/ DD. In fact, you have to select 448 or 640 before playing the disc. I'm not positive, but I believe I have a Red Hot Chili Peppers concert with the same option.

I've never seen this on any movies though.

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Interesting, thanks guys.
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It was a case that Pulse broke the specs, and not that DVD 'allowed' 640kbps AC3.
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It was a case that Pulse broke the specs, and not that DVD 'allowed' 640kbps AC3.

That appears to be the case.  DD max is 640kbps but DVD max is 448kbps although all decoders can decode up to 640kbps so it would play on DVD player.  See Dolby link below (yes it is about DD+ but it talks about the bitrate differences and specs.

 

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That appears to be the case.  DD max is 640kbps but DVD max is 448kbps although all decoders can decode up to 640kbps so it would play on DVD player.  See Dolby link below (yes it is about DD+ but it talks about the bitrate differences and specs.
At the time of release, it would play on some DVD players and not others. That's the nature of breaking spec. There was a 448kbps AC3 track on the same disc for compatibility purposes.
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With DVDFab being shut down, PavTube is offering their decrypter free today (3-23-14) only: http://giveaway.glarysoft.com/pavtubebytecopyv1.0-728/###
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With DVDFab being shut down, PavTube is offering their decrypter free today (3-23-14) only: http://giveaway.glarysoft.com/pavtubebytecopyv1.0-728/###

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Is ANYDVD still available, or have they been ordered to stop too?

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I'm new to the Blu Ray ripping game. I'm using PavTube Bytecopy for DVDs. I'm using ANYDVD for concert blu ray with lossless audio. And pavTube ByteCopy for DVDs and non-concert Blu Ray. Is there any program that allows me to extract individual titles from concert Blu Rays while ripping? I can do this with ByteCopy, but the audio will be converter to AC3. I want to keep lossless audio. Alternative is creating particles in Jriver, which is an inordinate amount of work, and not as practical as having individual tracks.
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Won't DVDFab still work on older stuff?
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DVDFab will work on newer stuff. They did not pull support/updates from existing registered owners of DVDFab. So it will work on older stuff and newer stuff as well as it has in the past.

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DVDFab will work on newer stuff. They did not pull support/updates from existing registered owners of DVDFab. So it will work on older stuff and newer stuff as well as it has in the past.

I thought they seized the domains and shut down DVDFab, like what happened with DVD Shrink?
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Seizing a domain name will take someone down for a maximum of 24 hours plus however long it takes them to register a new domain name. It's a pretty useless way to try to take someone down. It would be like saying you you took down the 1-800-flowers phone number by saying they were no longer able to advertise with that name while at the same time the 1-800-356-9377 continues to work the whole time.


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I thought they seized the domains and shut down DVDFab, like what happened with DVD Shrink?

They seized the .com domain but there is NO WAY to shut them down. They just used a non-US based domain and they are back in business.
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I'm new to the Blu Ray ripping game. I'm using PavTube Bytecopy for DVDs. I'm using ANYDVD for concert blu ray with lossless audio. And pavTube ByteCopy for DVDs and non-concert Blu Ray. Is there any program that allows me to extract individual titles from concert Blu Rays while ripping? I can do this with ByteCopy, but the audio will be converter to AC3. I want to keep lossless audio. Alternative is creating particles in Jriver, which is an inordinate amount of work, and not as practical as having individual tracks.

SO what does PAVTube get me? I've been using Any DVD HD for many years now. I usually use it in conjunction with IMGBurn

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SO what does PAVTube get me? I've been using Any DVD HD for many years now. I usually use it in conjunction with IMGBurn

PavTube will convert video to MKV (savings lots of space) and extract titles from chapters on DVD while ripping/converting. For concert DVDs this is very practical - I want the individual tracks. However, it will not capture lossless audio formats on Blu Ray, so those I rip as ISO with Any DVD
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I thought they seized the domains and shut down DVDFab, like what happened with DVD Shrink?
DVD Shrink wasn't shut down, their host received a DCMA notice and complied. DVD Shrink is widely available still but dvdshrink himself stopped development because he "sold out" to Nero. Before, he released a German version without DeCSS which therefore is completely legal to be hosted on German sites.

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PavTube will convert video to MKV (savings lots of space) and extract titles from chapters on DVD while ripping/converting. For concert DVDs this is very practical - I want the individual tracks. However, it will not capture lossless audio formats on Blu Ray, so those I rip as ISO with Any DVD

eek.gif It's won't get the lossless audio tracks? crap. That makes it worthless to me. I downloaded it on six PCs last night thinking that I could use this as a replacement to makeMKV, but without the ability to have a lossless audio track, I have no use for it since most BDs have a lossless audio track.

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PavTube will convert video to MKV (savings lots of space) and extract titles from chapters on DVD while ripping/converting. For concert DVDs this is very practical - I want the individual tracks. However, it will not capture lossless audio formats on Blu Ray, so those I rip as ISO with Any DVD

How is converting a file to mkv saving you lots of space? Mkv is just a container. Are you also re-encoding?

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I assume you meant speedmenu? I never use that so I'm not sure what that does to the disc.inf. All I know is, when I browse to my Blu-ray drive when AnyDVD is active and a Blu-ray disc in the drive, I see directories named ANY!, BDMV, and CERTIFICATE, and a file called disc.inf.

Edit: I should add that the disc.inf file is always there, ScreenPass or not. I pasted an example below. When there is ScreenPass, then the contents of that file will include the correct playlist.
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type=BD-ROM
version=AnyDVD HD 7.4.4.3 (BDPHash.bin 14-02-26-B)
totalsectors=12764896
label=FULL_METAL_JACKET
speedmenu=0
region=-1

Speedmenu uses AnyDVDs 'own skin' so when you click to play the movie their 'menu' appears showing the various playlists (main movie, extras, etc). It's a quick way to play just the movie or, in my case, see what playlist it shows me.

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I'm new to the Blu Ray ripping game. I'm using PavTube Bytecopy for DVDs. I'm using ANYDVD for concert blu ray with lossless audio. And pavTube ByteCopy for DVDs and non-concert Blu Ray. Is there any program that allows me to extract individual titles from concert Blu Rays while ripping? I can do this with ByteCopy, but the audio will be converter to AC3. I want to keep lossless audio. Alternative is creating particles in Jriver, which is an inordinate amount of work, and not as practical as having individual tracks.

Sounds to me like you want makemkv. And then run the mkv through handbrake if you want to reduce the file size
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Sounds to me like you want makemkv. And then run the mkv through handbrake if you want to reduce the file size

Will this preserve the lossless audio on BluRay AND allow me to extract individual titles within chapters in batch?
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Will this preserve the lossless audio on BluRay AND allow me to extract individual titles within chapters in batch?

yes to audio and I am not sure what you mean by extract individual titles within chapters. It will allow you to extract multiple tracks (from a single bluray) in batch, but each track usually has multiple chapters. I you are looking to somehow extract a single track into multiple files - one per a chapter, not sure how you'd do that.

Check it out, it is free while it is in beta and it has been in beta for years.
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yes to audio and I am not sure what you mean by extract individual titles within chapters. It will allow you to extract multiple tracks in batch, but each track usually has multiple chapters. I you are looking to somehow extract a single track into multiple files - one per a chapter, not sure how you'd do that.

Check it out, it is free while it is in beta and it has been in beta for years.

Always confuse tracks, and chapters. I'm ripping concert BRs and want individual files for each song. This is a the lowest level in the hierarchy, probably chapters within a track. I can rip inidivual chapters (?) on DVDs in batch (i.e. I check a box of which chapters I want ripped and they are all ripped in indivudal files. Want to do the same for BR, with lossless audio.
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Always confuse tracks, and chapters. I'm ripping concert BRs and want individual files for each song. This is a the lowest level in the hierarchy, probably chapters within a track. I can rip inidivual chapters (?) on DVDs in batch (i.e. I check a box of which chapters I want ripped and they are all ripped in indivudal files. Want to do the same for BR, with lossless audio.

Well, as far as I know, makemkv, cannot output chapters into individual files. You can use handbrake to do this (after you use makemkv or whatever to get your mkv file). But that means you are transcoding the file. Plus I am pretty sure handbrake can only pass thru DTS-HD and not True HD. Though most bluray's seem to be DTS-HD, so might not be that big of a deal.
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