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My 3808 does. It supports the advanced codecs. That is the reason I bought it four years ago.

yeah yeah..but then you use crappy lossy audio out of your boxee box...
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yeah yeah..but then you use crappy lossy audio out of your boxee box...

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yeah yeah..but then you use crappy lossy audio out of your boxee box...

I don't follow? Are you alluding to the need for lossy audio if you want to avoid the hd audio dropouts? Not to beat a dead horse, just making sure I got the point.
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Yes.

[*]I like to know I have the best option avaialble[*]My home theatre was a large investment, and I want to make the most of it.[*]My ears may not be the best at detecting subtle differences, bu they are pretty good.


Do you think it is overkill?

No but on average how much more hdd space do they require per movie?
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No but on average how much more hdd space do they require per movie?

lossless vs. core audio, difference is probably about 2GB

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I have 2x 2TB drives, so I am not too worried.


I was just ripping Spiderman 2, and noticed that the first two titles that MakeMKV find are quite similar:
  • One is 51 chapters and 34.3GB
  • And the other is 51 chapters and 36.4GB

Otherwise, all of the audio tracks and everythign else appear to be the same. Now, this is one disc, so it is unlikely there is almost 70GB on it, I am assuming that these two titles share some of the dependent titles.

But what is the difference? I saw nothing on the package to tell me, so I went with the larger one. How can I know if what the difference is?

EDIT: I do see the segment maps are different. But what does that mean as far as the movie goes? Would there be clips missing from one or the other?

EDIT EDIT: Ah ha! The disc contains two versions of the movie as I suspected (isn't 20/20 hindsight awesome! ). The first is the original movie that appeared in theatres. The second is "Spiderman 2.1" with 8 minutes of additional footage. Well, I chose the second one, so I guess that is what I got
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Ahh, but what if the theatrical version is the more universally preferred version? By only keeping the other, you've limited your options.

I don't know if that is the case with this film or not, but it's just the sort of thing that would drive me to indecision. And partly why I continue to procrastinate on ripping my own titles.

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Ahh, but what if the theatrical version is the more universally preferred version? By only keeping the other, you've limited your options.

I don't know if that is the case with this film or not, but it's just the sort of thing that would drive me to indecision. And partly why I continue to procrastinate on ripping my own titles.

Universally preferred in terms of what? Storyline?
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Suppsoedly, the extra 8 minutes is mostly dialog used to smooth out the story a bit. As a sci fi writer myself, this intrigues me more than action scenes alone, so it is worth it to me.

I have now bumped into this on several titles, including the alternate ending for I Am Legend, which is more true to the original book, which is a great read BTW.

So, now, I have exactly the versions I want, without having to choose them from disc. To each his own, I guess.
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I didn't know I Am Legend had an alternate ending.
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Yes, a happy one. Or at least a less depressing one.
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Yes, a happy one. Or at least a less depressing one.

One that is closer to the book. It is why the book is called "I Am Legend". The title is the spoiler. I won't say more.
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Universally preferred in terms of what? Storyline?

It was just a general comment about these situations where there are more than one version on a blu-ray. Not a specific comment on Spiderman per se.

Sometimes, the extended version gets praised more because it enhances the film, filling in missing details or context. Blade Runner is one such example that pops into mind. Other times, there are films where the more concise, shorter version is given more critical praise because maybe the pacing is better or the longer version simply doesn't add anything truly useful or compelling to the story.

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One that is closer to the book. It is why the book is called "I Am Legend". The title is the spoiler. I won't say more.

I want to thank you for your cliffhanger report .. tortuous even .. above on why there would seem to be 70GB of data on a 50GB disc. I recently ripped my first BD and found much the same thing. I automatically chose the longer one, but now it dawned on me that I have the Extended Cut (Sucker Punch) and the two different sets of chapters represented the two versions.

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I want to thank you for your cliffhanger report .. tortuous even .. above on why there would seem to be 70GB of data on a 50GB disc. I recently ripped my first BD and found much the same thing. I automatically chose the longer one, but now it dawned on me that I have the Extended Cut (Sucker Punch) and the two different sets of chapters represented the two versions.

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Yeah, headslap right? Took me a bit to figure that out.

Here is a quick writeup I did on multiple playlists:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2011...ain-movie-rip/

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I don't follow? Are you alluding to the need for lossy audio if you want to avoid the hd audio dropouts? Not to beat a dead horse, just making sure I got the point.

Yeah.. basically that was the zing. The boxee has a great interface but the audio dropouts for hd make it a deal breaker for me. Their are still audio dropouts on lossy audio but it is not as bad...Of course, there are several people who will post that they have never had an audio dropout with their boxee. I give aaron credit for posting truthfully about it (and we have the same tv, so he's cool)
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lossless vs. core audio, difference is probably about 2GB

that is in line with what i am seeing as well. 2gb is the high side. Most of mine are less than that for thr hd audio. At least I think so, I will check when I get home..
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Here is a quick writeup I did on multiple playlists:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2011...ain-movie-rip/

Ok, this one is tough. I have "Batman Begins", and it has two identical titles of 39 chapters, 22.1GB, same lengths, same everything.

So, I am not using Clown_BD, but MakeMKV, which doesn't provide as much info. I'm trying to avoid a bunch of downloads, but I did download BDInfo. Even then, I cannot see anything that tells me which one is which.

And when I play the Blu Ray disc with TMT 3, it doesn't indicate that there are two to choose from.

Help?
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Ok, this one is tough. I have "Batman Begins", and it has two identical titles of 39 chapters, 22.1GB, same lengths, same everything.

So, I am not using Clown_BD, but MakeMKV, which doesn't provide as much info. I'm trying to avoid a bunch of downloads, but I did download BDInfo. Even then, I cannot see anything that tells me which one is which.

And when I play the Blu Ray disc with TMT 3, it doesn't indicate that there are two to choose from.

Help?

No clue, maybe just different angles? I would just choose the earlier playlist (i.e if the playlist if 0001.mpls and 0000.mpls I would choose 0000.mpls)

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No clue, maybe just different angles? I would just choose the earlier playlist (i.e if the playlist if 0001.mpls and 0000.mpls I would choose 0000.mpls)

Ok, cool, thanks! I take it by your posts and the hours you seem to reply to the forums, you are in Europe?

i am in the Pacific Northwest of the US. It's about 2:35pm here.
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Yeah.. basically that was the zing. The boxee has a great interface but the audio dropouts for hd make it a deal breaker for me.

Streamerlover,
I thought so, just double checking. I still have my boxee. I really love it but I hate those dropouts. The devs have lost some respect with their handling of this issue, IR remotes, etc but I still like it the best.

Would you go back to the boxee box if the fix the HD audio bug, as promised, this spring? Just curious. Sorry for going OT.
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Streamerlover,
I thought so, just double checking. I still have my boxee. I really love it but I hate those dropouts. The devs have lost some respect with their handling of this issue, IR remotes, etc but I still like it the best.

Would you go back to the boxee box if the fix the HD audio bug, as promised, this spring? Just curious. Sorry for going OT.

ABSOLUTELY GO BACK! The interface is awesome! As long as it can play my bluray rips without issues I will go on record and state I will buy 10 of them! Three for me and seven for freinds (who will pay me back, hopefully)
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One that is closer to the book. It is why the book is called "I Am Legend". The title is the spoiler. I won't say more.

The book is nothing like the movie and much more depressing (more like a short story anyways).
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Ok, this one is tough. I have "Batman Begins", and it has two identical titles of 39 chapters, 22.1GB, same lengths, same everything....................................


Wow - that's a lot of memory for a movie. Are BDs typically this size when ripping? I've only done SD and HD so far.
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Wow - that's a lot of memory for a movie. Are BDs typically this size when ripping? I've only done SD and HD so far.

Typical Blu ray is between 15-30GB. Typical DVD is around 3-6GB

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Typical Blu ray is between 15-30GB. Typical DVD is around 3-6GB

That's what I have see as well. It depends on how long the movie is as well. I only rip the main movie for Blu Rays and they typically average about 20-25GB for a 1.5-2hr movie
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With ClownBD my bd main movie are about 15 to 35 gb in size.

Using folder structure with anydvd hd for dvd movies are about 5 to 8 gb.

If I encode the sd movies with Handbrake they are about 1 to 2 gb.

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ok, started ripping a few BR's (very new to all of this) and the result is 32gb An example of this is Dark Knight on BR. Even though my PCH 200 is hard wired to my network, the file stutters like crazy. So, I have tried DVD Fab (30 day trial over) MakeMkv and PavTube. Up until the BR rips PavTube suited my needs just fine. For this file (Dark Knight) Used PavTube and just set it to Main Movie. I also ripped my Metallica Live in France (BR) And file was close to 30gb. So, may I ask what others are using to rip and maintain full movie with all audio options, like Dolby Tru HD?

Is there perhaps a secondary program to use that preserves the movie including audio as is, without the mega file?

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