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The "easiest" thing would be to buy the blank disc that matches the movie and simply copy it one-for-one.
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How the hell can anyone in the US buy AndDvdHD? My us VISA is rejected and the other two options are bitcoin and paysafe...
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How the hell can anyone in the US buy AndDvdHD? My us VISA is rejected and the other two options are bitcoin and paysafe...
Send them an email, and see what they can do. I bought AnyDVD HD with my debit card, but I had to contact my bank regarding this issue, and they did something to my account so it wouldn't get rejected.

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How the hell can anyone in the US buy AndDvdHD? My us VISA is rejected and the other two options are bitcoin and paysafe...
Visa" is listed as an option. Try calling your CC company and ask why it was declined.
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How the hell can anyone in the US buy AndDvdHD? My us VISA is rejected and the other two options are bitcoin and paysafe...
I got a fraud call from my credit card bank when I tried to purchase. It was declined twice. I told them it was ok and was able to proceed with a new purchase.

I believe the location of the seller is considered rare and suspicious. Antigua? Gurnsey? Something odd.

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Thanks all. I'll have to call my CC company. Weird way to do business...

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It is the CC company's fraud protection, not anything Slysoft is doing.

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nm looks like others are having the same issue.

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Expendables 3

Redbox Rental of Expendables 3 has 271 playlists and DD 5.1 lossy audio. No Atmos.

Anyway the correct playlist is

179) 00594.mpls, 2:06:27
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- Chapters, 16 chapters
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converting & Burning to Blu ray disc ... confused.

First of all im new to the forum and this is my first post. Looking for some help to clear up confusion.

Firstly just to make everyone clear I Do NOT condone piracy at all. I'm just trying to back up my blu rays so that my 3 yr old doest scratch or damage the original

So i have been burning DVD and DL media for years but finally joined the blu ray club after buying a new 3d tv and 3d blu ray player panasonic bdt110 And samsung x6 speed blu ray burner.

My questions are this. :
1. If you had either a mkv , m2ts file etc how would I convert them to a format that my player can read from a disc? I've used tsmuxer to mux into both Avchd and bdmv file and burnt in imgburn but can't seem to get them to play back.

I've tried with a 1:1 rip using various programs that create .iso file and these still won't play on the player.

2. Once you convert a file into either avchd or bdmv structure. Why are most of the folders empty other than the stream folder and certificate folder, is that normal for a converted file.

3. When making a mvc mkv back up from a 3d movie. How would one convert back to a playable 3d blu ray disc. (Not sbs or ou format - a proper 3d format. )

The player is fine and checked with original discs so player not at fault. Only when a bd-r disc is inserted it loads then goes straight back to home screen with no messages or anything.

Programs I'm using are makeMKV tsmuxer and imgburn .

Been stuck trying to figure this out for days now.
Any help would be appreciated.

P's. My apologies if this has been covered before or even in the wrong category as I say I'm a newbie here.
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I've tried with a 1:1 rip using various programs that create .iso file and these still won't play on the player.
I suggest you start with the simplest thing and go one step at a time. Take an original single-layer Blu-ray disc, burn a copy onto a BD-R that will play back. After that you can get into the more complex stuff.

I specified single-layer because most BD-Rs are single layer with 25GB capacity. Copying a two-layer disc requires an extra step of recompressing the movie. Start with the simplest thing.

What are you using to decrypt the disc? AnyDVD HD is popular and works great for ripping to ISO, which can be reliably burned back to BD-R for playback. MakeMKV can decrypt but creates a MKV, and I'm not sure how to convert that back to a BD-ISO.

What is your goal? Discs that will play in your player? What about NAS or USB HDDs full of movies?
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Does anyone know which file to rip for Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope? No thread at makemkv's forums.

I am getting like 9 different files with the same amount of chapters. The only difference is a 1/10 of a GB and each file has an (angle #) beside it. For example, the first file that was checked by default had (angle 1) next to it. What does that even mean?

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Divergent BluRay: retail vs. rental

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Seriously? 300 possible playlists and lossy audio. I wonder how long before we get a 1000 possible playlists and no sound at all? LOL!
Correct playlist

9) 00810.mpls, 2:19:40
[525+522+523+508+516+504+506+510+511+518+512+503+50 1+517+509].m2ts
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- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- AC3, English, multi-channel, 48kHz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48kHz
- AC3, Spanish, multi-channel, 48kHz
Just for the record and to give another example of the rental rip-off for certain BD titles.
I just ripped the retail version of Divergent.

First off the retail disk has only 7 playlists compared to the 300 on the rental.

Secondly, the video bitrate of the retail version is significantly higher than the Redbox rental. I am talking about the bitrate of the demuxed video stream without any audio, etc. The video bitrate of the retail version is about 7Mbps higher than the video bitrate of the Redbox rental.

So in addition to lossy audio, you also get second rate video.

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Just for the record and to give another example of the rental rip-off for certain BD titles.
I just ripped the retail version of Divergent.

First off the retail disk has only 7 playlists compared to the 300 on the rental.

Secondly, the video bitrate of the retail version is significantly higher than the Redbox rental. I am talking about the bitrate of the demuxed video stream without any audio, etc. The video bitrate of the retail version is about 7Mbps higher than the video bitrate of the Redbox rental.

So in addition to lossy audio, you also get second rate video.
Is Lionsgate the only studio guilty of this? I can deal with the video but the lossy audio drives me crazy. I just upgraded all 7 main speakers to B&Ws and added 4 ceilings for Atmos.
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Is Lionsgate the only studio guilty of this? I can deal with the video but the lossy audio drives me crazy. I just upgraded all 7 main speakers to B&Ws and added 4 ceilings for Atmos.
You know I never looked to see if Divergent was a LionsGate film while I was ripping it. The last movie I ran into in which the video bitrate on the rental was lower than on the retail version (along with AC3 on the rental and DTS-HD on the retail) was Ender's Game. I think that was a LionsGate film.

I'm also looking to significantly upgrade the audio system -- some time after the holidays. The current one is 6.5 yr old. I keep telling the wife that as we age our vision and hearing start to fade and we need to compensate. That worked to get the 65" plasma in the family room and the 50" in the bedroom. Don't see why I couldn't use that justification again for some big-a$$ speakers.

I should have put this in the previous post:

Divergent retail edition
playlist = 00760.mpls
segment order = 509,502,516,513,508,510,515,507,503,511,501,504,51 2,506,505

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Why are we whining about what studios do differently on rentals than on the retail release?
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Why are we whining about what studios do differently on rentals than on the retail release?
Slow week at work.. We have to whine about something.
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You know I never looked to see if Divergent was a LionsGate film while I was ripping it. The last movie I ran into in which the video bitrate on the rental was lower than on the retail version (along with AC3 on the rental and DTS-HD on the retail) was Ender's Game. I think that was a LionsGate film.

I'm also looking to significantly upgrade the audio system -- some time after the holidays. The current one is 6.5 yr old. I keep telling the wife that as we age our vision and hearing start to fade and we need to compensate. That worked to get the 65" plasma in the family room and the 50" in the bedroom. Don't see why I couldn't use that justification again for some big-a$$ speakers.

I should have put this in the previous post:

Divergent retail edition
playlist = 00760.mpls
segment order = 509,502,516,513,508,510,515,507,503,511,501,504,51 2,506,505
I wonder how DVD Ranger is coming along. I was following the progress a while back but lost track of it. I really hope they can come up with a viable solution to Cinavia. I had read that the database they offer is not an actual replacement track but a "first Pass" to clean up. This serves only to cut down the time required by the end user to clean up track. I know that DVD Ranger uses Cuda cores for processing so my Titans should do well. I really do not need to rid my setup of Cinavia because the Dunes ignore it. I just want to see it fail.
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Why are we whining about what studios do differently on rentals than on the retail release?
Pirates read this thread too.
Just keeping things balanced.

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I really do not need to rid my setup of Cinavia because the Dunes ignore it. I just want to see it fail.
I would classify it as pretty much a fail, now. It's only ever been a Sony play. The other studios have all taken turns dipping their toes in with a couple movies but it hasn't caught on with them -- Disney didn't even use it on Frozen.

It has never been a factor for media players, only for people using a BD player as a streamer or to play copied disks. Playlist obfuscation causes me far more grief than Cinavia ever did.

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I would classify it as pretty much a fail, now. It's only ever been a Sony play. The other studios have all taken turns dipping their toes in with a couple movies but it hasn't caught on with them -- Disney didn't even use it on Frozen.

It has never been a factor for media players, only for people using a BD player as a streamer or to play copied disks. Playlist obfuscation causes me far more grief than Cinavia ever did.
I showed my 77 year old mom how to put the playlist in the correct order for me. My dad passed away and she only has my brother and I. She loves doing it and keeps her mind sharp. She considers them puzzles and can usually solve them in under an hour.

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I showed my 77 year old mom how to put the playlist in the correct order for me. My dad passed away and she only has my brother and I. She loves doing it and keeps her mind sharp. She considers them puzzles and can usually solve them in under an hour.
Wow, get her an account on AVS and let her join in the fray.
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Pirates read this thread too.
Just keeping things balanced.
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Just keeping things balanced.
Or linux users who have to use the rip / watch / delete method for blurays.

Blurays are the one downfall of a HTPC.
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Or linux users who have to use the rip / watch / delete method for blurays.

Blurays are the one downfall of a HTPC.
But not just Linux users.
This would also apply to people who stream rips exclusively and therefore see no need to have a BluRay player in their stack. The only way for these people to watch a rental (or any disk) is to rip/watch/delete. I was in that camp up until 3yr ago when my wife bought me a BD player for Christmas.

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Why?
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Why?
Unless you are windows based (not sure about Mac) there is no software bluray playback software.... Well, let me rephrase that. There is no software playback for copy protected blurays. If there is no protection then xbmc or MythTV can play it back. There are ways to use MakeMkv to initialize playback but then it's basically just ripping as you watch.

With linux and MythTV / xbmc you are limited to rip / watch / delete.

With where we are with technology I hate that I need to have separate boxes for different media. Bluray player for blurays, roku for netflix, DVR for TV, Dune for local media playback, chromecast for music.... Yeah, several can be combined in one but none do everything well and have a strength in only one or two categories.

My MythTV HTPC does everything above really well (with the exception of actual bluray disks... it's then rip / watch / delete).

The added bonus of rip / watch / delete is getting to press "play" and watch the movie.

Alright! Let's watch. Put in the disk... Piracy warning. Can't skip this trailer. Piracy warning. You wouldn't download a car. Can't skip this trailer. Piracy warning. Commerical for related products. Piracy warning. Menu showing cut-scenes from the movie. Wait. Was that a massive spoiler they just showed? Hit "Play" from the menu. Piracy warning. Argh!
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Unless you are windows based (not sure about Mac) there is no software bluray playback software.... Well, let me rephrase that. There is no software playback for copy protected blurays. If there is no protection then xbmc or MythTV can play it back. There are ways to use MakeMkv to initialize playback but then it's basically just ripping as you watch.

With linux and MythTV / xbmc you are limited to rip / watch / delete.

With where we are with technology I hate that I need to have separate boxes for different media. Bluray player for blurays, roku for netflix, DVR for TV, Dune for local media playback, chromecast for music.... Yeah, several can be combined in one but none do everything well and have a strength in only one or two categories.

My MythTV HTPC does everything above really well (with the exception of actual bluray disks... it's then rip / watch / delete).

The added bonus of rip / watch / delete is getting to press "play" and watch the movie.

Alright! Let's watch. Put in the disk... Piracy warning. Can't skip this trailer. Piracy warning. You wouldn't download a car. Can't skip this trailer. Piracy warning. Commerical for related products. Piracy warning. Menu showing cut-scenes from the movie. Wait. Was that a massive spoiler they just showed? Hit "Play" from the menu. Piracy warning. Argh!
I couldn't help but think of this flowchart. This is the main reason I have 5 Dunes in my home and a server. I have not watched a trailer or FBI warning in 5 years. I have not watched a commercial in 14 years thanks to Tivo.
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