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post #7291 of 7839 Old 02-07-2015, 07:28 AM
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What functionality does Windows Server have, and that you need, that a "consumer" version of Windows does not?

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Honestly for how I use it not much different. I use Stablebit for my software JBOD setup. One of the reasons I like is the built in PC backup and recovery which I have used. For how I use it though, Server 2012 is probably overkill (I got it for free so cost wasn't an issue). Streaming has been flawless as long as I don't get a BSOD. I still do my ripping on my Desktop PC and just simply copy over to the server once done.

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I still do my ripping on my Desktop PC and just simply copy over to the server once done.
Have you thought of ripping to - or transferring to - a local external USB 3.0 drive and then using sneakernet to attach it to your server for transfer to your RAID drives? Onesey, twosey rips wouldn't be worth it, but once you go over 5 to transfer it would be a timesaver.
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Have you thought of ripping to - or transferring to - a local external USB 3.0 drive and then using sneakernet to attach it to your server for transfer to your RAID drives? Onesey, twosey rips wouldn't be worth it, but once you go over 5 to transfer it would be a timesaver.
Or just rip to the Shared Network Location.
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Have you thought of ripping to - or transferring to - a local external USB 3.0 drive and then using sneakernet to attach it to your server for transfer to your RAID drives? Onesey, twosey rips wouldn't be worth it, but once you go over 5 to transfer it would be a timesaver.
Maybe from a laptop if you needed to free it up right away, but probably not from a desktop. I too rip my BD's and DVD's on my desktop then send them to my servers over the network. At 110MBps transfer rates it takes about 5 min to send an large BD.m2ts. I usually just start them transferring when I'm ready to walk away from my PC and do something else. Yes I could rip directly to the server but I keep a copy on the array attached to the desktop PC.

A USB-3 drive tops out at ~160MBps on my systems so it would actually take longer and more of my intervention time to first transfer the rips to the external drive then move them over to the server.

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Perhaps I should rephrase in the form of a question.

Why are you not just ripping it to a shared folder on the server in the first place?
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At 110MBps transfer rates it takes about 5 min to send an large BD.m2ts. I usually just start them transferring when I'm ready to walk away from my PC and do something else. Yes I could rip directly to the server but I keep a copy on the array attached to the desktop PC.

A USB-3 drive tops out at ~160MBps on my systems so it would actually take longer and more of my intervention time to first transfer the rips to the external drive then move them over to the server.
Ummm, maybe I was thinking USB 3.1 or maybe I just wasn't thinking! The initiate and walk away really cinches it.

Is the copy on your desktop array a backup?
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Is the copy on your desktop array a backup?
yes, until I watch the title.

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yes, until I watch the title.
A way to keep track of what you have watched and not watched? Otherwise, it would stream ... nevermind
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Says who? Haven't seen a mod step in so far on any of those threads here on the forum.


So, in the US, if I circumvent the copy protection of a BD I bought for myself (no rental) to put on my NAS, that's 100% fair use and can be freely discussed? What about other countries like Switzerland?
I thought that "Technically" circumventing the Copy Protection on a Blu Ray Disc is a violation of the DMCA and how they are blocking sites like DVD Fab as well as putting out US Only Versions of their Software?

This is (in my opinion) the way that movie companies are trying to prevent us from copying their movies.

As for copying Rentals sure you CAN do it but just because you can doesn't mean you SHOULD do it as you should always have your original discs just in case the MPAA comes knocking on your door one day =)

This is in the US only, I've heard that in other countries it is LEGAL to rip your movies and even legal to give away the original to a friend / family member. I don't know how true that is but it wouldn't surprise me as here in the US the companies run the country / government not the other way around.

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I thought that "Technically" circumventing the Copy Protection on a Blu Ray Disc is a violation of the DMCA and how they are blocking sites like DVD Fab as well as putting out US Only Versions of their Software?
That is correct. Technically, the software used to circumvent is illegal in the U.S.

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This is (in my opinion) the way that movie companies are trying to prevent us from copying their movies.
An entirely understandable goal on their part.

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As for copying Rentals sure you CAN do it but just because you can doesn't mean you SHOULD do it as you should always have your original discs just in case the MPAA comes knocking on your door one day =)
Really, you don't think the rental rippers are deleting their rips when they return the rentals?

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This is in the US only, I've heard that in other countries it is LEGAL to rip your movies and even legal to give away the original to a friend / family member. I don't know how true that is ....
Also correct. Other countries strike a different balance between the rights of intellectual property owners and the rights of those who use that property.

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Another great option, thanks. I like that at least in the specs it explicitly states 3D and 4K pass thru



Yeah, I do have a Receiver. Currently I have a 5.1 setup at home (custom built wall unit, in ceiling center channel/ surround speakers). For the new home I don't want to cut through any walls for a while until I live in the space for a bit (plus the in ceiling speakers are staying in the house). I am just trying to make things simple and clutterfree to start off. I will probably take the AVR and throw it in the basement for a small HT type setup, and get a soundbar (Sony or Yamaha) for the family room.

Anyways, I know this has gotten a bit off topic, so back to your regular programming
The low end Sony $300 sound bar will pass through 3D and 4K. Plus decode the advanced audio codecs and accept 7.1 pcm along with having three HDMI inputs.

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The low end Sony $300 sound bar will pass through 3D and 4K. Plus decode the advanced audio codecs and accept 7.1 pcm along with having three HDMI inputs.
Model #? I want to get for Mom for V-Day.
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Someone give me a title that has the audio dropouts. Tell me which copy and which playlist and which track is giving the problem. I'm very curious as I have not run into this problem before.

I even went back and re-watched total recall at high volume to hear the audio popping problem, but I did not hear anything like that going on.

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yes, until I watch the title.
I'm watching TV shows now that I recorded 5 years ago. As an alternative to keeping the backup copies for years, do you know of a way to force write verification on the network drives? Or, when corruption occurs, to perform CRC checks on the files?

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I'm watching TV shows now that I recorded 5 years ago. As an alternative to keeping the backup copies for years, do you know of a way to force write verification on the network drives? Or, when corruption occurs, to perform CRC checks on the files?

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I use SnapRAID. It is specifically designed for collections of large, mostly static files, like a media file library. It (a) keeps one or more parity discs allowing lost discs to be rebuilt, and (2) a checksum database so file integrity can be verified and corrected from parity.

It is a minimalistic approach and runs as a snapshot of the file collection; some other programs in the same niche operate in real time.

The author provides this comparison table: http://snapraid.sourceforge.net/compare.html

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I use SnapRAID. It is specifically designed for collections of large, mostly static files, like a media file library. It (a) keeps one or more parity discs allowing lost discs to be rebuilt, and (2) a checksum database so file integrity can be verified and corrected from parity.

It is a minimalistic approach and runs as a snapshot of the file collection; some other programs in the same niche operate in real time.

The author provides this comparison table: http://snapraid.sourceforge.net/compare.html

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Thanks for the info - that sounds like a good option to explore...

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Really, you don't think the rental rippers are deleting their rips when they return the rentals?

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That's exactly what I have to do. Rent / rip / watch / delete. I don't own a bluray player and use a linux based HTPC. No native way to watch a bluray without ripping it. In fact, even using a makemkv workaround to stream the disk as you watch is just ripping it in real time.

If there was licensed linux based bluray software I'd happily use it to watch the physical disks but until that point I have to use a workaround. I have no desire to add another big piece of hardware to my equipment rack just to watch the occasional movie...
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Model #? I want to get for Mom for V-Day.
Here are links to them at the Sony store. They all decode the Advanced audio codecs and are supposed to pass through 4K and 3D.

$300
http://store.sony.com/tv-sound-syste...All-Sound-Bars

$350
http://store.sony.com/300w-2.1-sound...All-Sound-Bars

$450
http://store.sony.com/300w-2.1-sound...All-Sound-Bars

$900
http://store.sony.com/hd-sound-bar-w...All-Sound-Bars

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That's exactly what I have to do. Rent / rip / watch / delete. I don't own a bluray player and use a linux based HTPC. No native way to watch a bluray without ripping it. In fact, even using a makemkv workaround to stream the disk as you watch is just ripping it in real time.

If there was licensed linux based bluray software I'd happily use it to watch the physical disks but until that point I have to use a workaround. I have no desire to add another big piece of hardware to my equipment rack just to watch the occasional movie...
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That's exactly what I have to do. Rent / rip / watch / delete. I don't own a bluray player and use a linux based HTPC. No native way to watch a bluray without ripping it.
Do you rip under Windows or under Linux?
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Linux. I use makemkv.
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Newsflash: does not make it OK.
I also tend to drive with the flow of traffic even though it's typically above the posted speed limit. That's not OK either.

I'm not a good person but I do fall asleep each night knowing I've deleted the movies I've watched once I'm done.
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I've tried some of those before (quite a while back) but the makemkv / mythtv interaction was not that great. Now that things have matured maybe I should give it a try again. Part of the problem comes from makemkv not always selecting the correct title on the disks that have the 100+ fake sequences.

The funny things is even this is technically A Bad Thing because you are using software to "illegally" decrypt the disk as you are streaming it to your video player.

Oh well.
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I've tried some of those before (quite a while back) but the makemkv / mythtv interaction was not that great. Now that things have matured maybe I should give it a try again. Part of the problem comes from makemkv not always selecting the correct title on the disks that have the 100+ fake sequences.
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The funny things is even this is technically A Bad Thing because you are using software to "illegally" decrypt the disk as you are streaming it to your video player.
As you said, Linux users have no other choice.

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I've tried some of those before (quite a while back) but the makemkv / mythtv interaction was not that great. Now that things have matured maybe I should give it a try again. Part of the problem comes from makemkv not always selecting the correct title on the disks that have the 100+ fake sequences.

The funny things is even this is technically A Bad Thing because you are using software to "illegally" decrypt the disk as you are streaming it to your video player.

Oh well.
IMO, in reality it is A Bad Thing; technically we are Skating On Thin Ice.

If you could find a workable Linux player, you'd save time and aggravation associated with sorting through playlists and then maybe not being 100% sure you watched the "right" movie. There is a lot more obfuscation in rentals than retail versions.
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On more than one occasion REDBOX did not have the Blu-ray version of the movie so I had to go to NetFlix to rent . . . In a perfect world DVDs would just go away and force the slow adopters to get a BD player
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While I wish DVDs would go away forever . . .
Just read an interesting article which indicated BluRay make up less than 20% of Redbox rentals.
Looks like it is still a DVD world.

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Just read an interesting article which indicated BluRay make up less than 20% of Redbox rentals.
Looks like it is still a DVD world.
Must still be an SD world.
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Just read an interesting article which indicated BluRay make up less than 20% of Redbox rentals.
Looks like it is still a DVD world.
Even my 76 old mom has a Dune Base 3.0, 8 TB Server, 70" HD TV and a HD sound bar (that I am getting her for V-day). It is up to us to change the world.. She is really fast at finding the correct playlist on troublesome titles.

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