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Ok I see what you are doing now. All makes sense now that I see you example haha

I'm curious, when you do it this way, does mkvmerge demux the files temporarily before remuxing? I'd assume so as even makemkv works that way and its makemkv is just a different GUI for mkvmerge.
Mkvmerge creates and starts writing to the new file immediately, not 100% sure if that means no intermediate steps but that's what I've been thinking. Works well for me regardless, and as I posted earlier I also use mkvmerge to strip out unneeded subtitle tracks (after determining which track represents english foreign language "forced" subs) so it's an easy workflow for me.

However I see that the standalone mkvmerge gui app is scheduled to be deprecated in an upcoming release, with those features rolled into a new mktvtooolnix gui. So, another program to learn, and those screenshots I posted will probably not be much good in a few weeks lol.
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I hope you all understand that you are all breaking the law when you are ripping your Blu Rays!! That's why I never did this not worth it!

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There is a service that allows you to do that legally in the US

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The In-home Disc to Digital service is a new feature of our VUDU To Go application. The process is quick and easy and allows you to start storing your DVDs in the cloud in minutes. Put your movies in the cloud in just few simple steps:
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  2. Click the "Disc to Digital" option tab in the application.
  3. Insert a disc.
  4. Pick your quality (SD or HD).
  5. Repeat step 3 for another disc.
  6. Complete the checkout process.
You're ready to enjoy your movies anytime, anywhere, on any VUDU-enabled device!

Or move to the UK or France

A law has come into effect that permits UK citizens to make copies of CDs, MP3s, DVDs, Blu-rays and e-books.
Consumers are allowed to keep the duplicates on local storage or in the cloud. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rivate-copying



While it is legal to make back-ups for personal use, it remains an offence to share the data with friends or family.
Making such copies - including ripping CDs to iTunes - had previously qualified as copyright infringement, although cases were rarely prosecuted.
The changes were detailed in June, when the Intellectual Property Office (IPO) issued guidance, but had not come into effect until now.


"These changes are going to bring our IP [intellectual property] laws into the 21st century," said the minister for Intellectual Property, Baroness Neville-Rolfe.
"They will mean that the UK IP regime will now be responsive to the modern business environment and more flexible for consumers."
The change to the law also allows the parody of copyright works. Previously, there has been a risk of being sued for breach of copyright if clips of films, TV shows or songs were used without consent.
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I hope you all understand that you are all breaking the law when you are ripping your Blu Rays!! That's why I never did this not worth it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimin..._United_States

There is a service that allows you to do that legally in the US

VUDU to GO

How do I get started using the In-home Disc to Digital service?
The In-home Disc to Digital service is a new feature of our VUDU To Go application. The process is quick and easy and allows you to start storing your DVDs in the cloud in minutes. Put your movies in the cloud in just few simple steps:
  1. Download the VUDU To Go application.
  2. Click the "Disc to Digital" option tab in the application.
  3. Insert a disc.
  4. Pick your quality (SD or HD).
  5. Repeat step 3 for another disc.
  6. Complete the checkout process.
You're ready to enjoy your movies anytime, anywhere, on any VUDU-enabled device!

Or move to the UK or France

A law has come into effect that permits UK citizens to make copies of CDs, MP3s, DVDs, Blu-rays and e-books.
Consumers are allowed to keep the duplicates on local storage or in the cloud. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rivate-copying



While it is legal to make back-ups for personal use, it remains an offence to share the data with friends or family.
Making such copies - including ripping CDs to iTunes - had previously qualified as copyright infringement, although cases were rarely prosecuted.
The changes were detailed in June, when the Intellectual Property Office (IPO) issued guidance, but had not come into effect until now.


"These changes are going to bring our IP [intellectual property] laws into the 21st century," said the minister for Intellectual Property, Baroness Neville-Rolfe.
"They will mean that the UK IP regime will now be responsive to the modern business environment and more flexible for consumers."
The change to the law also allows the parody of copyright works. Previously, there has been a risk of being sued for breach of copyright if clips of films, TV shows or songs were used without consent.
Interesting since CBP will not do anything to anyone bringing counterfeit movies in the USA (and they are paid to enforce the laws) unless there is over $40k (retail) in movies in a shipment. Are digital copies even as good as a ripped BR?

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I hope you all understand that you are all breaking the law when you are ripping your Blu Rays!! That's why I never did this not worth it!
Hmm you bring up an interesting point. So let's help clarify that point. The first line in your shared wiki link reads "Criminal copyright laws exist to protect the creative property of people in the United States"... so with that being said, how does it violate the copyright law if someone rips a movie to their hard drive so that they can enjoy that movie more conveniently and without the need to stream via a service like Vudu? How is that violating a "protection" afforded to copyrighted material? It isn't!

Additionally, if what you speculate is true (that it is unlawful to rip a DVD movie to ones hard drive) then it is equally unlawful to DVR/record a movie (say HBO/Showtime/Streampix etc.) and enjoy that movie in the same manner as a ripped DVD/BD.

Your argument and/or thesis is invalid. It is unlawful as soon as the copied/reproduced copyrighted material is duplicated for distribution. It is NOT unlawful to rip a movie to your hard drive and therefore you don't have to worry... it is ok.. Uncle Sam is not going to be knocking at your door anytime soon asking to see your personal media collection (unless of course you have a subscription based Plex service with that personal media collection )
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Hmm you bring up an interesting point. So let's help clarify that point. The first line in your shared wiki link reads "Criminal copyright laws exist to protect the creative property of people in the United States"... so with that being said, how does it violate the copyright law if someone rips a movie to their hard drive so that they can enjoy that movie more conveniently and without the need to stream via a service like Vudu? How is that violating a "protection" afforded to copyrighted material? It isn't!

Additionally, if what you speculate is true (that it is unlawful to rip a DVD movie to ones hard drive) then it is equally unlawful to DVR/record a movie (say HBO/Showtime/Streampix etc.) and enjoy that movie in the same manner as a ripped DVD/BD.

Your argument and/or thesis is invalid. It is unlawful as soon as the copied/reproduced copyrighted material is duplicated for distribution. It is NOT unlawful to rip a movie to your hard drive and therefore you don't have to worry... it is ok.. Uncle Sam is not going to be knocking at your door anytime soon asking to see your personal media collection (unless of course you have a subscription based Plex service with that personal media collection )
Which he said in the post.

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While it is legal to make back-ups for personal use, it remains an offence to share the data with friends or family.
Making such copies - including ripping CDs to iTunes - had previously qualified as copyright infringement, although cases were rarely prosecuted.
To be honest, I'm not sure what the point of wse's post was.
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Which he said in the post.
True, however, what I quoted from his post is what I was referring to. With that said, his post seems a little contradictory. I'm still wondering what the motivation was posting something insinuating we are all breaking the law.

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Hmm you bring up an interesting point. So let's help clarify that point. The first line in your shared wiki link reads "Criminal copyright laws exist to protect the creative property of people in the United States"... so with that being said, how does it violate the copyright law if someone rips a movie to their hard drive so that they can enjoy that movie more conveniently and without the need to stream via a service like Vudu? How is that violating a "protection" afforded to copyrighted material? It isn't!

Additionally, if what you speculate is true (that it is unlawful to rip a DVD movie to ones hard drive) then it is equally unlawful to DVR/record a movie (say HBO/Showtime/Streampix etc.) and enjoy that movie in the same manner as a ripped DVD/BD.

Your argument and/or thesis is invalid. It is unlawful as soon as the copied/reproduced copyrighted material is duplicated for distribution. It is NOT unlawful to rip a movie to your hard drive and therefore you don't have to worry... it is ok.. Uncle Sam is not going to be knocking at your door anytime soon asking to see your personal media collection (unless of course you have a subscription based Plex service with that personal media collection )
I agree...they are only interested in the big counterfeiters not someone copying for their own personal use.

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True, however, what I quoted from his post is what I was referring to. With that said, his post seems a little contradictory. I'm still wondering what the motivation was posting something insinuating we are all breaking the law.
Exactly, it was contradictory and why I was confused as well what the post was trying to say.
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I cant imagine the poster was concerned about our wellbeing, or the rights of the intellectual property owners. So, the motive remains unclear. Stakeholder in Vudu?
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I cant imagine the poster was concerned about our wellbeing, or the rights of the intellectual property owners. So, the motive remains unclear. Stakeholder in Vudu?
Haha, yes, I was thinking the same thing, it looked like a PSA from your friends at Vudu!
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........... Stakeholder in Vudu?
Nope

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What's worse for Kaleidescape is that the group that holds the license to Blu-ray's anti-piracy technology, the Advanced Access Content System Licensing Administrator, doesn't acknowledge the legality of the company's compromise. When asked whether a licensee could rip Blu-ray discs, Michael Ayers, chairman of AACS LA, offered this statement:


The AACS technology and licenses do not permit ripping of Blu-ray discs unless the copy has been authorized by the content owner, either by setting the Copy Control Information appropriately (and nearly all BD movies are set for “Copy Never”, just like DVDs), or by individual authorization through the Managed Copy process, which we anticipate rolling out at the end of this year or the beginning of 2011.

Kaleidescape and DVD CCA Announce Settlement Agreement to End Decade-Old Lawsuit

Ending license dispute clears the way for advancing electronic distribution

SUNNYVALE, CA – June 2, 2014 - Kaleidescape, Inc., the market leader in movie servers, and the DVD Copy Control Association, Inc., the licensor of CSS (Content Scramble System), today announced an agreement to jointly end a decade-long lawsuit, paving the way for Kaleidescape to become the de-facto platform for high-resolution content delivery.


Kaleidescape and the DVD CCA jointly settled the case in the 6th District of the California State Court of Appeal and the Superior Court of Santa Clara County. Under the settlement terms, Kaleidescape agreed to drop its appeal of the superior court injunction, which has been stayed by the Court of Appeal since 2012. DVD CCA and Kaleidescape have agreed that Kaleidescape will be subject to the injunction starting on November 30, 2014. Systems sold by Kaleidescape after that date will no longer be able to import CSS-protected DVDs, and such DVDs will only be playable from the physical disc. It will still be possible to play a physical DVD starting at the beginning of the feature, or jump directly to a favorite scene or song.


Pursuant to the settlement agreement, the superior court at the request of Kaleidescape and DVD CCA modified the injunction to provide that it takes effect November 30, 2014. This permits Kaleidescape to continue selling systems that import CSS-protected DVDs through November 29. By then, Kaleidescape expects to have most DVD movies available for download from the Kaleidescape Store in the United States. For markets outside the United States, the Kaleidescape system will be sold after November 29 as a Blu-ray movie server only.


"This agreement is a watershed moment for Kaleidescape. Electronically delivered movies are the future of home video. This agreement allows us to focus on creating the future of digital content ownership," said Cheena Srinivasan, founder and CEO of Kaleidescape. "As the most trusted brand among home theater enthusiasts, who purchase far more movies than the average consumer, we are committed to delivering the best products and services for the most entertaining and immersive movie-watching experience at home."

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Of course the studios won they want us to buy multiple version of their movies in multiple formats!

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^ This is a thread about ripping blu ray disks, not distributing the ripped contents, and it's not about streaming or DVD's. You need to start a new thread in another forum titled My Ramblings About Absolutely Nothing.
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Yes we all here know all this... but remember, the only dispute is your original statement that "I hope you all understand that you are all breaking the law when you are ripping your Blu Rays!! That's why I never did this not worth it!"

Furthermore, what is your point in posting all this (especially the last few posts)?

Lastly, you said "The AACS technology and licenses do not permit ripping"... It absolutely doesn't matter what the manufacturer of the CONTENT says is permissible or not permissible. The law clearly states what is unlawful (the reproduction of the content for financial gain). AACS was created by the content provider to prevent persons from duplicating the content. It wasn't created by the law makers. If someone bypasses AACS it doesn't make it unlawful. AACS is a barrier and has nothing to do with the law.

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Has anyone ever had a problem where the tracks are ripped out of order? I use AnyDVD, and DVDFab, and last night we watched Insurgent... We noticed that the rip appeared to be messed up as it went from one scene to one that was already seen, and then played fine from there. We have noticed this on a few other movies we ripped too.
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This a form of copy deterrent Lion's Gate is using to "fool" ripping software. It is called obsfucation. What I do is put the disc in my player and enter chapter mode. I write down the start times of each chapter and compare them with the times shown when listing the chapters in MakeMKV. It should work similar in your software, just visit their forums and search for a thread for the movie. Lion's Gate is using different sequences for each version of the movie, so they will be different depending on whether it is a rental, 2D, LE/DC ( Limited Edition/Director's Cut ), or 3D package.
What i do is just go online and see what track is the correct one to play. I typically go to the Slysoft Forum. That way I don't need to do anything except select the correct track.

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Won what? Their pointless fight against piracy? Really?

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