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Hi all,

I am looking to buy a Hardware Media Player to play my HD collection. Here are the requirements:

1. It should support 3TB NTFS formatted USB 3.0 external hard drives (All my MKV 1080p videos are in two of those Seagate Goflex 3 TB drives) ? My research showed that many players like NeoTV 550 or WDTV HD do not have this support and won't detect external drives above 2TB.

2. Should play Bluray backups, ISOs, MKVs etc. all 2D. For now 3D is not that important for me.

3. Should be able to passthrough, decode (core) and downmix DTS-HDMA & TrueHD audio.

4. Should display forced subtitles properly and should have PGS sub support (mkv).

5. Networking and content streaming features would be nice but not mandatory.

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
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Hi all,

I am looking to buy a Hardware Media Player to play my HD collection. Here are the requirements:

1. It should support 3TB NTFS formatted USB 3.0 external hard drives (All my MKV 1080p videos are in two of those Seagate Goflex 3 TB drives) ? My research showed that many players like NeoTV 550 or WDTV HD do not have this support and won't detect external drives above 2TB.

2. Should play Bluray backups, ISOs, MKVs etc. all 2D. For now 3D is not that important for me.

3. Should be able to passthrough, decode (core) and downmix DTS-HDMA & TrueHD audio.

4. Should display forced subtitles properly and should have PGS sub support (mkv).

5. Networking and content streaming features would be nice but not mandatory.

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Hemanth

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dune, popbox or pch a-300 may be some contenders - however, I am not sure whether they support USB-3. USB-2 has more bandwidth than needed for a 1080P 24 MBps mkv , afaik

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Thanks guys. I'll have a look at the Dune options.

Well, my drive do have USB 3 support so why not get a player with the same? Btw. some of the MKVs I have are close to 40Mbps.
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Thanks guys. I'll have a look at the Dune options.

Well, my drive do have USB 3 support so why not get a player with the same? Btw. some of the MKVs I have are close to 40Mbps.

If you want USB 3.0 support then PCH-A300 has that. I believe Dune player only have 2.0, which doesn't matter since either one will do the job.

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Hi,

Be careful when you go searching for USB 3.0 in a media player. There are players with "USB 3.0" on the market, but most of them only have it for connection to a PC. For handling USB hard drives and flash drives, most are still USB 2.0.

USB 2.0 is fast enough for HD video playback, so there is not that much value in having USB 3.0 - though I certainly understand that USB 3.0 is the future and that eventually that's what all of the devices will have.

USB 3.0 for the connection to a computer is great for copying files onto an internal drive - the faster speed cuts down on the amount of time needed to transfer large files.

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Hi,

Be careful when you go searching for USB 3.0 in a media player. There are players with "USB 3.0" on the market, but most of them only have it for connection to a PC. For handling USB hard drives and flash drives, most are still USB 2.0.

USB 2.0 is fast enough for HD video playback, so there is not that much value in having USB 3.0 - though I certainly understand that USB 3.0 is the future and that eventually that's what all of the devices will have.

USB 3.0 for the connection to a computer is great for copying files onto an internal drive - the faster speed cuts down on the amount of time needed to transfer large files.

Yeah. I don't get why people think they need usb 3.0 on a media streamer unless they are planning on using it to transfer files to it. For playback it is a non issue..
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Thanks Jack. As long as my 3TB drives are accessible I'm fine with USB 2.0 ports. So if a streamer advertises 'USB 3.0 slave' port, it's meant for PC connectivity?

I just got the confirmation from users that WDTV Live supports 3TB drives. But alas it won't bitstream DTS-HD. Any suggestions?
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Thanks Jack. As long as my 3TB drives are accessible I'm fine with USB 2.0 ports. So if a streamer advertises 'USB 3.0 slave' port, it's meant for PC connectivity?

I just got the confirmation from users that WDTV Live supports 3TB drives. But alas it won't bitstream DTS-HD. Any suggestions?

I won't make any specific suggestions, but just about all Realtek 1185 and 1186 based players will support drives with GUID partition table (GPT) and NTFS file system, which is necessary for using drives larger than 2TB. And yes, "USB 3.0 Slave" would indicate that it is only for connecting to a PC. A "USB 3.0 Host" connector would be required for supporting USB 3.0 hard drives and such.

Most of the 1185 and 1186 players will also bit-stream HD Audio formats.

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no none of the popcorn devices support 3TB disks, there are few who claim to able to somehow make it work, but nobody shaes/knows how to do it

I am wondering if Dune officially support 3TB NTFS partitions? what type GPT? any link for steps?

time to ditch popcorn, they are way behind in terms of sophistication....

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If you want USB 3.0 support then PCH-A300 has that. I believe Dune player only have 2.0, which doesn't matter since either one will do the job.

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no none of the popcorn devices support 3TB disks, there are few who claim to able to somehow make it work, but nobody shaes/knows how to do it

I am wondering if Dune officially support 3TB NTFS partitions? what type GPT? any link for steps?

Dune does not reliably support 3TB on USB. Some people seem to have it working but others have trouble; it seems to be brand-related and/or file-type-related.

3TB does work reliably with SATA.

This long thread goes into more detail.
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You'll have trouble finding a player which has a USB 3.0 connection, as it is simply too new to be on a variety of products outside of hard drives, PC components and some PC's.

Also, for the 3TB Hard drive on NTFS..this gets tricky. It may or may not work on the Dune players. Most media players use a variation of Linux (I do believe..I honestly don't know), and it prefers the Ext2 file system. That's what I did when the Hard drive in my Dune Base 3.0.
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no none of the popcorn devices support 3TB disks, there are few who claim to able to somehow make it work, but nobody shaes/knows how to do it...

I have a 4 bay Mediasonic enclosure filled with 3TB drives (Hitachi I think, maybe Samsung) formatted HFS (Mac format) connected via USB2 to a PCH A210. Works great.
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no none of the popcorn devices support 3TB disks, there are few who claim to able to somehow make it work, but nobody shaes/knows how to do it

I am wondering if Dune officially support 3TB NTFS partitions? what type GPT? any link for steps?

time to ditch popcorn, they are way behind in terms of sophistication....

the 200 series and 300 series all support usb of 3tb formatted ntfs. So not sure what is wrong with yours. unless its one of the orginal 3tb drives with the strange backwards supports for windows xp then they do not work.
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My Dune HD Base 3D supported 3TB GPT external drives [which were only bought for their size rather than speed]. Regrettably, it suffered from a severe case of the jitters during playback and so will be returned to the supplier.

 

Out of interest, it appears that Dune will no longer be releasing firmware updates that may cure this problem, and may even be pulling out of the media server market. That is the view of many UK users/owners and Dune are not responding to firmware update requests through their official Facebook page. Last firmware for this model was April 2013!.    

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