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Hello,

I am a long time lurker but in need of some advice.

I've been looking at playing movies from an external HDD and my mind was set on getting the AIOS PIVOS but after reading some dreadful reviews, i wanted to make sure i got the best player for the money. My needs are as follows:

- Willing to spend $120 but i would be much more comfortable spending under $100
- DTS-HD playback
- DTS-MA playback
- Read MKVs, VC-1, WMV, MP4s for the most part
- Doesn't have to have a network port but it would be convenient.
- Playback subtitles
- Easy to use
- USB/ESATA port for external hdd

The PIVOS seemed to be a good unit until i read how slow it can be, and the remote being very complicated to use and the GUI itself. It's for the girl and her room mate, so i don't mind showing her how to use it but simplicity is what i am after.From there i see there is the Micca MPLAY-HD which goes for $60 but i don't know if it supports DTS-HD/MA, Micca 600 and 950 (950 being out of budget) but both aren't on adorama or amazon.

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Under $120, Micca EP250 or EP350 are options. There's also the kdLinks HD680, another one with Realtek's 1185 chip.

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I don't see the Micca EP350 for sale anywhere, the Micca EP250 is on their Micca site though. Are they doing a clearance for newer models? I also don't see any real differences between the 2 units. The Kdlinks looks great, never heard of it but most reviews are postive smile.gif
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Not sure what is going on with Micca. It has been hard to find their players in stock online lately. There are other Realtek 1185 players on eBay that are basically clones of EP350, EP600G2, etc., but I'd stick to something you can return easily.

If your budget was a little higher, I'd recommend PopBox v8, available via diamondhomedesign.com or popbox.com.

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Out of curiosity, why would you recommend the Popbox v8? I was sort of going towards the KDlinks unit itself or the Micca 250 (cant decide between the 2).
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Go for the Micca EP 600 G2, 1186 CPU and plenty of grunt for what you want. Yes, it also supports those formats.
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I am trying to decide between Micca ep680 G2 and kdLinks680 myself. Micca is out of stock on Amazon but Adorama still takes orders (http://www.adorama.com/MCEP600G2.html). Amazon still selling the kdLinks unit.
Too bad that there are no Android remote apps for either one.
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I was suggesting PopBox v8 as it additionally offers a movie/TV jukebox via Eversion/YAMJ, plus has somewhat better Internet content apps.

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Doesn't the V8 still suffer from HD audio dropouts? I haven't seen anyone mention it being resolved.
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I haven't gotten any dropouts, but I know there have been some reports of it not only for PopBox v8, but also PCH A-300/C-300. Another streamer the OP can consider for his price point is Netgear's NeoTV550. I personally wouldn't risk it (I was an early adopter and didn't care for it at the time), but it's generally seen as a poor man's Dune.

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The micca EP250 G2 is actually a non-customized Pivos AIOS, as a matter of fact the official firmwares for both comes from the same contractor (down to the same spelling mistakes).

Not sure about "how slow can it be sometimes", the AIOS is as slow as any other 1185 based box out there, speed is is fine when used for what its intended to be (media playback), you run into issues when you expect a file server, torrent server, nzb server, samba server, full jukebox, all in a PC like performance for the $75 its currently being sold for (after $20 MIR).

The remote has been updated (shipping for some time already), so that shouldn't be an issue either.

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Glow in the dark buttons, and WAY BETTER button placement.


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The micca EP250 G2 is actually a non-customized Pivos AIOS, as a matter of fact the official firmwares for both comes from the same contractor (down to the same spelling mistakes).
Not sure about "how slow can it be sometimes", the AIOS is as slow as any other 1185 based box out there, speed is is fine when used for what its intended to be (media playback), you run into issues when you expect a file server, torrent server, nzb server, samba server, full jukebox, all in a PC like performance for the $75 its currently being sold for (after $20 MIR).
The remote has been updated (shipping for some time already), so that shouldn't be an issue either.
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Will Pivos replace the original remote for the new one? Or will I have to pay for that?

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Ordered the KDlinks 680. Just saw the Micca 250 come into stock. I hope the KD links allows me to view movies by date or alphabetical order, one review stated it didn't and that would be quite a pain to navigate
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Please post your impressions after you have it.

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Ordered the KDlinks 680. Just saw the Micca 250 come into stock. I hope the KD links allows me to view movies by date or alphabetical order, one review stated it didn't and that would be quite a pain to navigate

Unfortunately it wont, exactly like the AIOS and the Micca 250, only library files (i.e. locally indexed can be sorted in various ways).

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Well the girls are going to hate this. Could you define locally indexed? Does that mean if i have 20 movies in folder "A" and 20 in folder "B," it'll list out the folders and from there i can access movies in each designated folder?

I may have to return this, what unit would support organization of files plus the criteria i listed in the original?
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Could you define locally indexed? Does that mean if i have 20 movies in folder "A" and 20 in folder "B," it'll list out the folders and from there i can access movies in each designated folder?
Yes, with a single restriction: folder has to be local (not networked).
It scans all local storage (internal or any USB storage), then present you with a flat view of all the contents from all the folders (so you don't know what was inside drive X or folder Y), yet once indexing done you can sort this flat view by "name", "date created", "date accessed"
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Well i got the media player, and so far it seems okay.

Pros

- Video quality is just as good as my sandy bridge HD3000
- Interface is simple
- Unit doesn't lag when skipping throughout the movie.
- Does DTS/Dolby Digital

Cons

- The file indexing, to go through a list is quite painful. I sort of wish it had the ability to display the movies by like genres (custom made) and with a picture, or at least, have the ability to view movies in an icon grid array format as opposed to a list of about 15 per scroll.
- Scrolling through movies is slow.
- I tried 2 movies, both blu ray rips with DTS-MA and can't get it to work properly on my Onkyo 809. It just plays stereo sound. Could be the files, i never tested them on the computer to the receiver.
- Did not come with the SATA/power cable. It says it comes with one on the KDlinks website.

In the KDLinks menu under audio options, i believe there was a setting for RAW or PCM. Does anyone know which would be better? I would assume RAW is straight from the video.
If i wanted something with better file indexing, is the Micca EP600 a good choice? What other options are there out there?
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If i wanted something with better file indexing, is the Micca EP600 a good choice? What other options are there out there?

 

The Netgear NeoTV 550 for $85 is hard to beat if you aren't looking for much...

 

- Streams HD audio

- File images via networks shares (I use Tag Suite - it's free and works great)

- You can view via Wall, folders, etc

- Searchable via several options including custom Genres

- Plays my HD MKVs flawlessly

- Can be configured to turn off (not standby)

- Primitive customizable skins (if you really want a different Theme)

- Full size/feature remote

- Easily displays file details (subject and technical)

 

If all you want is network HD streaming so far I can't find a reason to look elsewhere. It's certainly not state-of-the-art and I'm sure it's lacking a lot of features but luckily all I want to do is select a movie from a decent interface and play it of which it more than handles... 50+ titles and counting.

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I prefer USB streaming for them, a lot easier on a hard disk. For me i may consider the network streaming Netgear.
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Don't forget full support for blu ray iso files WITH menu's. I keep my 550 around for vacation trips and use it in the living room system with usb discs. For $85 NEW very hard to beat..
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are one or both of the usb ports usb 3.0 on the kdlinks hd680? It seems that most of the external hard drives being sold today are 3.0.
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It doesn't really matter, usb 3.0 drives are backwards compatible with usb 2.0 ports
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It apparently does matter. I've already seen that my Seagate external drive (USB 3.0) will not play a MKV hidef movie thrugh the USB 2.0 app on my Roku player, whereas several MKV videos in my USB 2.0 external drive will play via that app.
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Does it not recognize the drive or just won't play a particular file? I know the Roku's prior to the Roku 3 had issues with drives greater than 2TB in size, not sure about the Roku 3. I'm sure you know Roku's are fussy on file formats, not all MKV files are the same and won't necessarily play on the Roku.
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