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I'm going to buy a Synology DS212+ or a Synology DS412+.

My receiver is a Yamaha RX-V3071 ( it is DLNA/UPnP ) certified and can stream music via network ( but not picture or movies ).

My TV is a Sony Bravia KDL-55EX500. It does not have network capabilities.

I want to know the simplest way of streaming content from my NAS to my TV.

I take it I need some kind of media player on the TV end ( which needs a HDMI out ), but I'm hoping I can get one with pass through so that the formats that can be passed through are not limited by the media player ( as the decoding/processing etc ) will be taking place on the NAS end anyway.

I will be controlling it via android phone ( Galaxy S2 ) so it doesn't matter whether the interface is displayed on the TV ( for the NAS ).

Is there a simpler way? ( network to HDMI converter? ) or does it require more decoding on the TV end? ( media player ).



Thanks in advance for any and all responses.


This is my first network receiver and I have just ripped all of my 331 CDs onto my PC as WAV and am streaming them from my PC in the meantime, but as my PC has 6 case fans, an overclocked i7 and a GTX670....I'd like to cut down on the noise, heat, power usage, and the overwhelming LED fans....

( aka I want to buy a NAS, but I need to know how to work around the video/pictures conundrum )
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you have a lot of reading to do here...

UPNP is useless as far as many of us here are concerned.

The player with the richest support is the Dune D1/H1 etc...

PCH A-200,A-210, and C-200 are quite good but just not as stable as the Dune.

Everything else is lower tier IMO.

Startign reading about some of the media players here.

All are going to use NFS or SMB to stream reliably and not transcode. NOT UPNP/DLNA.

again the NAS does nothing but stream files.... If you want quality DLNA is not the answer.
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Thanks for the reply. The DLNA is only a requirement for my ability to stream music to my receiver for my music. As for the video and pictures...doesn't matter what method it uses, as long as it plays nice with either of the NASes that I mentioned.

I plan on using the Synology O.S/software as I tried the demo on the website and also user and 'proffesional' reviews seem to highly rate it's ergonomic interface etc.



EDIT:

The websites of these devices are always deceiving, but my interpretation of the specs is that this media player ( DunHD D1 ) is in itself an NAS device?

EDIT2:

I don't think it plays FLV files, not that it's crucial but I rip a lot of youtube vids so it would be a nice addition to be able to stream FLV.
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OK gotcha on the DLNA.

OK read up the PCH and Dune products.

The dune is the most premium product at a premium price with decent jukebox support. It plays more stuff correctly without crashing than any other player I have ever tested.

I recommend the D1 or H1

but they have some newer cheaper products that don't do BD menus. Still waiting on some reviews before I can recommend those though...

http://store.duneplayer.com/shop/category.aspx?catid=14

talk to Mike at Duneplayer.com, he will give you good advise.

PCH A-300 has issues. get a A-200, A-210, C-200 if you want a PCH.
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OK gotcha on the DLNA.
OK read up the PCH and Dune products.
The dune is the most premium product at a premium price with decent jukebox support. It plays more stuff correctly without crashing than any other player I have ever tested.
I recommend the D1 or H1
but they have some newer cheaper products that don't do BD menus. Still waiting on some reviews before I can recommend those though...
http://store.duneplayer.com/shop/category.aspx?catid=14
talk to Mike at Duneplayer.com, he will give you good advise.
PCH A-300 has issues. get a A-200, A-210, C-200 if you want a PCH.

Thanks very much. I will definitely check it out. A quick search told me that they are only about $360AUS...which is nothing considering that garbage like WD TV live etc cost $160 and don't do passthrough.

I didn't get a $1600 receiver yesterday only to have the quality castrated at the media player end of things.

So just to clarify, barring video features, those players will pass the audio ( as is ) from my NAS to my receiver ).

*I plan on cutting the PC out of the equation, PC off, NAS on, media player on.

EDIT:

NVM, the spec sheet told me the that it is DLNA and UPnP compatible.

Thanks for the help.

Didn't want to buy any el cheapo WD MY TV style boxes...
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again you wont use UPNP with these product. you will get inferior results... you may even get inferior results with audio and your new receiver. UPNP has all this negotiating going on to decide if the device can play a file natively or its needs to be transcoded. Unfortunately, Extra and unncessary conversions happen far too often in the DLNA world. Its a mess.

The Dune and PCH will both pass and decode DD, DTS, TrueHD and DTS-MA (so yes they wont mess up the audio on your videos and you get the orignal soundtrack in all its original glory). They wont mess up your music file playback either but they lack most every cool feature found in good audio players other than properly playing a single file. They play the music files correctly but not much more. I haven't seen Yamaha's music interface but Denon and Onkyo's are both AWFUL!
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Yeah the interface is very primitive...I don't even know why the receiver does not pass through video and photo files, I mean...the NAS does the processing/decoding anyway, surely it can't have been that hard to pass it along HDMI to the TV...

*Sigh*

That sounds good anyway. All I want is to hear the music as it was recorded, without any decoding and re-decoding done.

Now if only I can fix my the hundreds of WAV files that WMP has incorrectly named and ordered so that the song titles don't match the songs on my receiver...

Thanks a lot for your help.

I've been to large electronics stores, specialist computer stores, and several forums and no one can ever give me a straight answer about whether the devices they sell either:

1) Require the use of a PC ( sometimes in addition to an NAS )
2) Are able to pass through untouched audio/video/pictures


I'll check out the Dune players for sure, they are the first thing I've seen that can pass through native DTS-MA and True HD, I'm not interested in compressing my blu-rays to MKV etc...
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