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Hello all. I have a simple question and didn't find what I was looking for with a search.

I want to rip my BDs to my iMac to watch on my Apple TV. I've already done so with my DVDs but haven't gotten to my BDs yet. I did a couple test conversions which worked fine but created 10-12GB files after conversion using handbrake high profile. I'm wondering if it is possible to get them closer to the 3-4GB files that movies purchased through iTunes usually are. Also, I have 4 iPads (2 original, 2 new) and 3 ATVs (2 2nd gen and 1 3rd gen). If I rip BDs at 1080p will they work on all my devices?
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That was a helpful response.
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Hello all. I have a simple question and didn't find what I was looking for with a search.
I want to rip my BDs to my iMac to watch on my Apple TV. I've already done so with my DVDs but haven't gotten to my BDs yet. I did a couple test conversions which worked fine but created 10-12GB files after conversion using handbrake high profile. I'm wondering if it is possible to get them closer to the 3-4GB files that movies purchased through iTunes usually are. Also, I have 4 iPads (2 original, 2 new) and 3 ATVs (2 2nd gen and 1 3rd gen). If I rip BDs at 1080p will they work on all my devices?

Pay no mind to GusGus's comment, he has become a video snob. smile.gif Yes it's possible but you're going to be looking at 720p instead of 1080p. Not sure what you're using for the decryption part but if using DVDFab, at least in my experience, check the remove HD audio box prior to decrypting or you'll get out of sync audio/video. Just use the default Apple TV 2 preset in Handbrake and you're good to go, no further tweaking needed. I don't have any iPad's anymore but it works fine for ATV3 and on my Mac's.
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I conducted a test yesterday to see what I can do to get the best video quality and sound from a BD movie ripped to main movie only M2TS file with HD sound and secondary AC3 track, english and spanish subs. This took approximately 45 min. to rip with ClownBD and AnyDVD HD in the back ground. I then proceeded to re-rip this file to M4V with what I believe to be good video quality and sound with Handbrake. It took approximately 4.3 hours to complete this process. I used Mediainfo and here's what I got:


General
Complete name : C:\Users\GusGus\Desktop\MP4 MOVIES\TERMINATOR 3 RISE OF THE MACHINES (2003)\TERMINATOR 3 RISE OF THE MACHINES (2003).mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 1.57 GiB
Duration : 1h 49mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 2 059 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-18 23:34:42
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-19 03:45:54
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.6 2012022800

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L2.2
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 49mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 095 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 288 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 19.173 fps
Maximum frame rate : 23.981 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.220
Stream size : 854 MiB (53%)
Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-18 23:34:42
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-19 03:45:54
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 49mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 319 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 425 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 249 MiB (15%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-18 23:34:42
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-19 03:45:54

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 1h 49mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 499 MiB (31%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-18 23:34:42
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-19 03:45:54

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I was able to stream that movie wireless without any issues as well to my smartphones, tables and laptop. I am sure if you were to rip the BD without the RAW HD sound and just choose the AC3 track instead, the ripping process would be a faster. However, I ripped all of my BD movies with HD sound and secondary AC3 track.

The file was originally 720p / 19.5 GB, and it was the finished MP4 product was 720p / 1.57 GB.


So, I hope this helps you out. I apologize for my previous comment, but I just get a little upset when people want to compress BD to pretty much DVD quality. By the way when I used to use Handbrake a lot with DVD movies, it would take me approximately 1 hr per movie to rip them to MP4. If you rip all your movies to your hard drive first you can then use the Handbrake's batch mode and do all the movie at once. I leave my PC on during the night, and by the time I woke up it would of finished 20+ movies wink.gif.

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Sell your BD movies, and buy DVD movies. Problem solved!
I'm with gusgus on this one. I just don't understand people who want to do this!
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Hello all. I have a simple question and didn't find what I was looking for with a search.
I want to rip my BDs to my iMac to watch on my Apple TV. I've already done so with my DVDs but haven't gotten to my BDs yet. I did a couple test conversions which worked fine but created 10-12GB files after conversion using handbrake high profile. I'm wondering if it is possible to get them closer to the 3-4GB files that movies purchased through iTunes usually are. Also, I have 4 iPads (2 original, 2 new) and 3 ATVs (2 2nd gen and 1 3rd gen). If I rip BDs at 1080p will they work on all my devices?

I haven't started using Handbrake on my BR's yet. I know HB has a new ATV3 preset (updated in the last couple or three weeks) - did you try that? I usually experiment a day or so before finding my own settings, or, I find other peoples' settings in the HB forums - sure there are ATV3 specific threads there.

You can use use your 1080 movies on any other Apple/iTunes devices. Though, for size/disk-space reasons you might want to create smaller res versions (720p looks great on iPads, and 856x480, i.e. un-stretched anamorphic DVD res, looks good on both iPad's and iPhones).

You can also use your HB H.264 encodes on most other media devices, though on some you might need to re-package the "container" from .m4v to another more common mpeg4 variant (re-packaging is fast as it is not re-encoding or processing the imagery itself).

For a while yet it's going to be tricky to get HB (which is a free app) to make movies as optimized for both size and pq as the iTunes movies from Apple. Apple is most likely using "enterprise" class software like Sony Blu-Code or Sonic CineVision (both $40k or more) to encode their movies. NTM, encoding with those apps typically requires a highly-skilled operator as unique encode settings are applied for each kind of project, and sometimes even for individual chapters or problematic scenes.

Don't be discouraged though! Handbrake is really amazing and in my experience clearly encodes H.264 better than most "pro" apps under $2k, like Apple's compressor or Adobe's Media Encoder.
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Something I would experiment with when doing encodes ...
The ATV3 spec is NTSC 29.97 which is essentially 1080i which is essentially 1080p (24p/23.976) with 3:2 pull-down applied. My first test would be to encode a 24p (23.976) 1080p H.264 (you might have to enable de-telecine). Then, take that clip into iTunes and see if the ATV3 automatically adds pull-down and plays it. I'm guessing it will and now all your encodes will automatically be 20% smaller. (Note - this won't work with 720p.)

Just to clarify re Handbrake - I'm not suggesting it's the best, all around free-ware encoder out there, just that it's H.264 encoding is excellent. Gotta be careful in these forums ; )
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I'm with gusgus on this one. I just don't understand people who want to do this!

I completely understand what the OP wants to do. I wanted to do the same when I started ripping my movies, but it was just not feasible. My BD collection is over 400 movies, and my DVD collection is over 400 as well. It would take me approximately an average of 4.5 hours per BD to encode with Handbrake. So 400 movies X 4.5 hours = 1800 hours, which is almost a 1.5 months to complete. It is possible though.

It should be noted, the original BD movie (Terminator 3) is 720p not 1080p. So, if I'm pretty sure if the movie would of been 1080p, it would of taken a little longer to complete. I'm going to test another another movie, which has higher bitrate and see how it works out. I'll leave it running over night.

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I don't think you'll be able to get your encodes down to Apple's size/quality ratio. You are starting with a 1080p source and encoding to 1080p. Apple's movies are encoded usually from 4K sources with extremely high bit rates.
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I didn't have the latest Handbrake version. I ended up downloading and installing it, which erased all my settings. So, at the moment I am encoding Horrible Bosses from M2TS main movie to M4V by using the ATV3 preset settings with Anamorphic: Loose, Modulus:2, FPS: Same as source. Here's the MediaInfo on the M2TS file:

Approximately 3 hours 16 min and 25 seconds to complete the process. I'm thinking of encoding all of my kids favorites movies to m4v / mp4 so I can have them in my phone. I'll be using the batch mode, which should take a couple of days to do all of them.


General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : C:\Users\GusGus\Desktop\MP4 MOVIES\HORRIBLE BOSSES (2011)\HORRIBLE BOSSES (2011).m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 15.9 GiB
Duration : 1h 37mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 23.4 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 18.8 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.378
Stream size : 12.8 GiB (80%)

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 365 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 447 MiB (3%)
Language : English

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 447 MiB (3%)
Language : Spanish

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144
Language : Spanish

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So, for some reason or another Handbrake crashed. So, I am starting the encoding all over again. This time I am doing two movies Horrible Bosses and Bolt, with the high profile settings, and I've included all of the audio tracks, which include DTS HD / and AC3 tracks. To my surprise, it only added 10 more minutes to the encoding process. After the encoding is complete, I will be testing it via USB flash drive to my Dune D1 and AVR to see how good the picture and sound quality is.

I'll probably create a temporary shares within my W7 PC to test streaming via wired ethernet to my Dune and PCH-A210. Hopefully, Handbrake doesn't crash again.

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Completed Horrible Bosses from M2TS main movies only with HD Sound / AC3 track to M4V format with HD Sound and AC3 track as well, but for some reason or another it didn't rip the HD and AC3 sound track correctly. The bluray was 15.9GB and the M4V is 5.20GB. I can play this file on my Dune D1 and PCH-A210 via USB and network without issues. Here is the MediaInfo for the M4V file:


General
Complete name : C:\Users\GusGus\Desktop\MP4 MOVIES\HORRIBLE BOSSES (2011)\HORRIBLE BOSSES (2011).m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 5.21 GiB
Duration : 1h 37mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 7 630 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 12:55:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-25 17:38:49
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.8 2012071700

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 6 981 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 23.974 fps
Maximum frame rate : 23.981 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.190
Stream size : 4.77 GiB (91%)
Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 12:55:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-25 17:38:49
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 322 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 112 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 12:55:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-25 17:38:48

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 322 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 112 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 12:55:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-25 17:38:48

Audio #3
ID : 4
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 324 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 112 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 12:55:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-25 17:38:48

Audio #4
ID : 5
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 317 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 112 MiB (2%)
Language : Spanish
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 12:55:46
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-25 17:38:48

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Ok, I did Horrible Bosses again, and this time I was able to keep AC3 and HD sound as well. However, the file is a lot larger than before. I think if I was to remove the HD sound that would reduce the file size. Since, I am going to be adding this to my cell phone, I won't be needing HD sound. I'll try with AC3 track only and see how that works. Here's the Mediainfo:


General
Complete name : C:\Users\GusGus\Desktop\MP4 MOVIES\HORRIBLE BOSSES (2011)\Horrible Bosses (2011).m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 9.17 GiB
Duration : 1h 37mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 13.4 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 23:29:04
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 03:53:20
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.8 2012071700

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 6 981 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 23.974 fps
Maximum frame rate : 23.981 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.190
Stream size : 4.77 GiB (52%)
Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 23:29:04
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 03:53:20
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A9
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 1.03 GiB (11%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 23:29:04
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 03:53:19

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Codec ID : A9
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 350 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 3 653 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 5 760 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 2.49 GiB (27%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 23:29:04
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 03:53:19

Audio #3
ID : 4
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 447 MiB (5%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 23:29:04
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 03:53:19

Audio #4
ID : 5
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 447 MiB (5%)
Language : Spanish
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-25 23:29:04
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 03:53:19

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I re-encoded Horrible Bosses again without the HD sound. The picture quality is excellent almost bluray quality. My wife didn't noticed the difference between the BD movie and the encoded movie until I showed to her where you could see the pixels in certain scenes. Otherwise most people won't notice. This became more noticeable with my Plamas 50" TV's.

I did include the AC3 track. File size went from 15.9 GB original M2TS main movie file to 5.31 GB encoded M4V file.
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General
Complete name : C:\Users\GusGus\Desktop\MP4 MOVIES\HORRIBLE BOSSES (2011)\Horrible Bosses (2011).m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 5.32 GiB
Duration : 1h 37mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 7 785 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-26 06:25:16
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 10:47:13
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.8 2012071700

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 6 981 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 23.974 fps
Maximum frame rate : 23.981 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.190
Stream size : 4.77 GiB (90%)
Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-26 06:25:16
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 10:47:13
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 322 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 112 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-26 06:25:16
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 10:47:12

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 1h 37mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -83ms
Stream size : 447 MiB (8%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-07-26 06:25:16
Tagged date : UTC 2012-07-26 10:47:12

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gusgus..you have wayyyyyyy too much free time on your hands. Why would anyone go to all this work? Just rent the damn dvd for a $1 at redbox if you want a lower quality copy...
Wait a minute... I just found your next project! Go get the DVD and see if you or your wife can see a difference!biggrin.gif
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I re-encoded Horrible Bosses again without the HD sound. The picture quality is excellent almost bluray quality. ... So, here is the MediaInfo info:
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Excellent. I'll probably look at the settings when I start on my Blu-Rays ; )

Remember that movie is 2.40 With the same settings a 1:85 or 1.77 (i.e. full 16x9) will naturally be a bit bigger.
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gusgus..you have wayyyyyyy too much free time on your hands. Why would anyone go to all this work? Just rent the damn dvd for a $1 at redbox if you want a lower quality copy...
Wait a minute... I just found your next project! Go get the DVD and see if you or your wife can see a difference!biggrin.gif

I just leave the computee on and leave handbrake encoding the movies.

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