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it seems that the download-to-own is somehow linked to ultraviolet. K is listed as one of their retailers : http://www.uvvu.com/partners.php

didn't know that UV offers full rips as a downloadable solution.
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it seems that the download-to-own is somehow linked to ultraviolet. K is listed as one of their retailers : http://www.uvvu.com/partners.php

didn't know that UV offers full rips as a downloadable solution.

It's actually like you bought a physical Blu-ray disc that includes an Ultraviolet copy. Literally. So yes, you do get the UV version, as well as the original Blu-ray version when you buy and download from the Kaleidescape store.

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clever solution. But 4K$ is still a lot (for 99.9% of us mad.gif) just to have a 100% legal solution, and it's only for 100 BR, or even less when you see that DKR is a 66.2GB download on the K store (i guess this is the 2 discs version).

But lucky you are, you can buy another Cinema One and link it to the other to double your space and have up to 200 BR rolleyes.gif
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There is another well regarded streamer/player/server comparable to Kaleidescape (and some would say better) plug and play system called Mozaex. They have or at least had a relatively affordable model called Showstar. It is cheaper than Kaleidescape but not mainstream cheap, but it does several things the K doesnt. You will have to add your own decryptor software, but that just keeps Mozaex legal. Mozaex has apparently been in business for years.


http://www.mozaex.com/

http://www.mozaex.com/showstar/

There is also a very affordable device that does about everything Kaleidescape and Mozaex does at a fraction of the cost. The company is called Arctic and they seem to be new and with less experience. Their product keeps changing and so you can't always be sure what is available or not, but they have a US dealer to get up to date information from. Arctic is not well known and don't have the history of the bigger players but they seem to make a decent product at a very appealing price.

I have not used any of these players but I found them while searching for something better than Dune and Popcorn, etc. that doesn't require me to have a PhD in computer networking like many HTPCs do, or require frequent debugging and other fussing with. I have been using the Harman Kardon DMC-1000 for music only and been extremely impressed with it's functionality and rock-solid reliability. I got it for a song when H/K sold them at clearance but it is badly out of date and does not store videos. If anyone here has tried or uses the Mozaex Showstar or any of the Arctic devices I would love to hear more.



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http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/living/entertainment-center.html

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Here is the joke CINEMA ONE cost $3,999 there’s a catch to store your existing Blu-ray collection you need to add a DV700 Disc Vault which is basically a big carousel that holds 320 Blu-ray discs. The Disc Vault cost $5,495.

TOTAL COST = $9,494!!! They call this entry level smile.gif

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I've taken a two-pronged approach to this kind of functionality. Before I address the Kaleidescape side, I'll begin by summarizing my environment. My setup includes a Windows Media Center PC paired with a Silicon Dust HD Homerun Prime that is also running Plex Media Server. DVR content is stored on a 1TB internal hybrid hard drive. Everything else is stored on a 4TB external hard drive. I have four Roku boxes running Plex, Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon Instant Video and Vudu. I also have a couple of PS3s, which I use to access the CableCARD box via DLNA for live TV in other rooms and to access .WTV recordings exposed through Plex.

The closest legitimate equivalent to Kaleidescape is honestly UltraViolet HDX. Yes, I understand that the audio is not lossless, but the overall quality is very, very close to Blu-Ray for MOST content. It is on-demand, easy to use and has a nice interface on a variety of devices. I've been working my way through my collection, taking advantage of the 50% off disc-to-digital offer through Vudu and will soon have about 400 HDX movies. Vudu is accessible from all of the Roku boxes, tablets, computers and game consoles.

For movies that I cannot get through disc-to-digital, I either rip the disc or download a rip of the disc off a torrent (which takes less time). I usually rip to very high quality 720p mkv with DD 5.1 sound, because some of my Roku boxes are not hard-wired and those file and sound formats will direct play on Roku without transcoding. I could just as easily do this in 1080p if my boxes were all hard wired and I had enough drive space to burn. I use Plex with Roku to distribute the movies around my house, with the added perk of Plex working with our phones, tablets, computers and game consoles. It is a highly flexible solution. If I want a flashier interface, I also have the MyMovies plug-in for Windows Media Center.

If you really must have true Blu-Ray quality, you can always set up Windows Media Center with the MyMovies plugin have it control a stack of 400 disc Sony BD changers (assuming you can still find them).

Kaleidescape is just a massively over-priced rip-off. If I wanted perfect rips and could afford to pay for the disc space, I could simply rip all of my Blu-Rays with MakeMKV, which adds no compression whatsoever and use an HTPC for playback.

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