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post #901 of 2104 Old 09-08-2013, 12:47 PM
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WD TV Live is a far better file player than Roku 3 and can be had for a similar price. It's played everything that I've thrown at it with ease. I've never had any super-high bit rate rips to play on it so I don't know how well it can deal with those; the specs sound as though it should handle the video but I'm not certain what it will do with TrueHD or DTS-HD MA.

I have the WD TV Live Streaming model, and I've owned the two previous models of this player as well. Using the Ethernet port, I've had zero problems playing back Blu-ray rips residing on my Synology NAS. The same goes for files stored on USB drives attached to the boxes. Running HDMI from the WD TVs through my AVR, I get Dolby TrueHD decoding; DTS-HD MA is decoded as straight DTS. Even on the rare occasions where I've tried to play a file only to have the box report that it was "unsupported", a quick reset of the box resolved the issue and the file played perfectly.
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My issue is the fact that I don't have a receiver so I'm unable to pass the HD audio to it. I wanted to make the lossless copies to maintain the high quality of Bluray but it looks like I won't be able to do that unless I dish out the cash for a Dune streamer which I can't afford at the moment. My only alternative is to save off the HD audio for future use when I can afford a Dune and temporarily reencode the audio to a supported format and rejoin it to the lossless HD video file for playback on something like the WD Live Play or another similar device.
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...something like the WD Live Play...

There are TV Live and TV Play; TV Play is a new, lower spec model. I tried the Play and kind of liked its revamped UI, but it lacked the stream info display in Netflix, which I like, and had some file play source limitations that I don't remember, so I decided to go with TV Live.

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WD TV Live is a far better file player than Roku 3 and can be had for a similar price. It's played everything that I've thrown at it with ease. I've never had any super-high bit rate rips to play on it so I don't know how well it can deal with those; the specs sound as though it should handle the video but I'm not certain what it will do with TrueHD or DTS-HD MA.

If you want to stream local content, then yes, the WDLIve is MUCH better. Although it still aggravates me it doesn't do DTS-MA(it only stream the core DTS track).

It's a tradeoff though. Roku has many more internet streaming channels than WDLive. The 2 that the WDLive doesn't have that Roku does, which are glaring to me is Amazon on Demand and NHL Gamecenter.
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If you want to stream local content, then yes, the WDLIve is MUCH better. Although it still aggravates me it doesn't do DTS-MA(it only stream the core DTS track).

It's a tradeoff though. Roku has many more internet streaming channels than WDLive. The 2 that the WDLive doesn't have that Roku does, which are glaring to me is Amazon on Demand and NHL Gamecenter.

Yes, but the one WD Play has that the Roku doesn't and the reason I bought the Play is for the Slingplayer app so that I can watch my TiVo from anywhere I have a broadband connection.

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I just installed Plex, and I'm looking in to either buying a Roku or Apple TV to stream outside network to my parents house. I'm currenlty using an UnRaid server, and I installed Plex. It's works excellent within and outside the network, with the exception of my server's Dual Core AMD CPU being too slow if I tried to do multiple streams.

However, I was wondering if anyone has a similar set up, and has been able to access their server with a Roku box outside the network? My parents currently use a WDTV for their media playing purposes, and I am getting tired of using an external hard drive for them lol. So, if this is possible to accomplish it would be awesome.

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I don't think you can get Roku to look outside network (aside from developing a new channel, a challenging undertaking for most). It may be possible to set up some kind of VPN.

Another option would be to set up a NAS for your parents and keep it updated from your location manually via FTP, or automatically using BTSync or similar.
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I don't think you can get Roku to look outside network (aside from developing a new channel, a challenging undertaking for most). It may be possible to set up some kind of VPN.

Another option would be to set up a NAS for your parents and keep it updated from your location manually via FTP, or automatically using BTSync or similar.

I thought the Plex app would be taking care of that as long as I sign on to my parents Roku with my account? Just like doing it from the IPads.

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The iPad app is different than the Roku channel. iPad app has local network and internet connection functionality. Roku has a more restricted capability, unless someone verifies plex channel works over internet, you should probably assume it doesn't.
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The iPad app is different than the Roku channel. iPad app has local network and internet connection functionality. Roku has a more restricted capability, unless someone verifies plex channel works over internet, you should probably assume it doesn't.

That would not be good. Can someone confirm this before I start buying Rokus or Apple TVs.

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I don't know if the roku can stream from an outside network. I gave my mother in law an apple tv and she uses her ipad to access my server and uses airplay to watch it on her tv. works and looks great.
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The iPad app is different than the Roku channel. iPad app has local network and internet connection functionality. Roku has a more restricted capability, unless someone verifies plex channel works over internet, you should probably assume it doesn't.
That would not be good. Can someone confirm this before I start buying Rokus or Apple TVs.

Of course the Roku can access a Plex server via the internet. Folks do it all of the time. I believe it is the same procedure for most all set top boxes. It isn't automatic, If I recall correctly you both need to sign your rokus into your respective myplex accounts then share your server with your parents.

Stop asking for info here where you are getting poor speculation and try asking over on the Plex forum. They can point you to concrete instructions on how to accomplish what you want.

Bottom line is folks do this all of the time but you do need to have the bandwidth and set things up (not hard) at each end.
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Sounds good. I'm not sure if I am going to go with Roku 3 or Apple TV. I've got 3 iPads and two iPhones. My AVR is airplay enabled too. I like Roku because it had more channels. I might end up getting both and testing them out.

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Sounds good. I'm not sure if I am going to go with Roku 3 or Apple TV. I've got 3 iPads and two iPhones. My AVR is airplay enabled too. I like Roku because it had more channels. I might end up getting both and testing them out.
The price of entry is pretty low, so why not? I have an ATV and a couple of Roku's. May get another ATV soon too.

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The price of entry is pretty low, so why not? I have an ATV and a couple of Roku's. May get another ATV soon too.

Which one do you like better for Plex and Netflix?

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I sold my Roku 3 on eBay and I got most of my money back. I will using that money back to get a ATV which should be better than the disaster the Roku 3 was with Netflix. I am just waiting until they announce a new ATV as I don't want to get one now and then be stuck with one that ends up being obsolete.

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Okey doke, time for you to find that new thread.
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I'm was set to buy a Roku, but now I'm second guessing and thinking may be I should go with ATV3?

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I'm was set to buy a Roku, but now I'm second guessing and thinking may be I should go with ATV3?

Why don't you just get one of each? For $79 and $99, they are practically free and you can have the best of all worlds.

The time some have spent debating this topic... geez...
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Why don't you just get one of each? For $79 and $99, they are practically free and you can have the best of all worlds.

The time some have spent debating this topic... geez...

Yes, I have both because I have iTunes movies as well as Vudu and Amazon Instant Video movies so I need both. It would be nice if they made a player that could play all of them but don't think that will happen any time soon?

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I just need one for the master bedroom use for Plex and Netflix mainly. I'm going to go with Roku.

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Good luck with whatever you choose but the Roku 3 left a sour taste in my mouth. Hopefully the Apple TV will be a better streaming experience for me.

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I sold my Roku 3 on eBay and I got most of my money back. I will using that money back to get a ATV which should be better than the disaster the Roku 3 was with Netflix. I am just waiting until they announce a new ATV as I don't want to get one now and then be stuck with one that ends up being obsolete.

What was the problem with Netflix?. My only complaint with Netflix on the Roku3 is that it can't handle the 3D streams. Otherwise Netflix has been superb on my Roku 3, like it is on my Roku2 boxes as well.

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What was the problem with Netflix?.

oh common. you know. every one of his posts on here and in the roku forum is the exact same thing over and over.
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Okey doke, time for you to find that new thread.
He has. Now he's trashing the Roku 3 over in the AppleTV thread in the Macrumors forum. Don't know what the problem is with his unit but I have four Roku units (3, 2XS, XR and a first generation) and they all work perfectly. Not one problem, ever.
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I got my Roku 3 about a week ago and so far I'm loving it. I do have a few questions though, which are more due to my lack of knowledge about streaming than any particular issue with the player itself.

The Roku is hard-wired through an ethernet switch, but the cable runs are very short. I have Comcast and routinely get download speeds of just over 30 Mbps on my PC on speedtest.net. I notice that the speeds recorded on the speedtest channel for the Roku are always roughly half that of the readings on my PC checked just before or after. After doing some searching here and on Google and the Roku forum, I still don't understand why that is. I thought it might have been due to running through the switch, but if I connect directly to the router there is no difference. No other streaming devices are running on my network when I test.

When I run the Short 23.976 on Netflix during the week, regardless of time of day, I get a quick ramp to 3250 kbps and the reading remains there. However, on weekends, the reading ramps only to 750 kbps and bounces around between there and 1050 and 1750. Is the difference between weekday and weekend rates likely due to Netflix traffic? My speedtest.net weekday/weekend readings don't seem to vary appreciably on either my PC or the Roku channel.

I did change the DNS settings in my router from Comcast's default to Open DNS. I thought that had improved the bitrates I was getting to the Roku, but now I realize that improvement may simply have been due to the weekend/weekday discrepancy. I considered re-configuring QOS in my router from default, but that looks like more than I want to tackle unless I'm pretty sure this will be worthwhile.

In short, I guess I'm wondering if this is "just the way it is" or if there is something I can do to improve my setup.
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I notice that the speeds recorded on the speedtest channel for the Roku are always roughly half that of the readings on my PC checked just before or after.

When I run the Short 23.976 on Netflix during the week, regardless of time of day, I get a quick ramp to 3250 kbps and the reading remains there. However, on weekends, the reading ramps only to 750 kbps and bounces around between there and 1050 and 1750. Is the difference between weekday and weekend rates likely due to Netflix traffic? My speedtest.net weekday/weekend readings don't seem to vary appreciably on either my PC or the Roku channel..
First to me, the sample clip with bitrate doesn't seem to be a very accurate test to me.
I can play it at different times and it fluctuates too much as appossed to playing a regular title and HD ramps up very quickly. If Roku would only give us a bitrate display option on-screen! Pipe dream...

Second, did you try different servers at the top of your list on the speed test channel?
On mine, the first server is slower, the second is Comcast, my provider, and matches up with my computers tests. Avg 85 mbps down / 11 up.

Lastly, I'd leave QOS off. I think it creates more problems unless someone has a very slow connection.
You can google why QOS is bad for high speed broadband...

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