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post #61 of 82 Old 11-30-2013, 07:47 PM
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Been using the same setup for about 2 years now. I've found the Samsung blu-ray players to be the best inexpensive plex client offering a much more wider range of file compatibility over the Roku.

Just broke down and bought a Samsung BD-F5900 3D player. It has a great Plex client, perhaps the best so far. It Direct Plays everything, as does the PlexPass GTV player on a Sony GTV GS7, so unlike the Roku it uses few resources on the Plex Media Server. Quite a nice Netflix too. The UI could be better for the player but it's actually a serious media player to consider in my opinion. I was personally delightfully surprised.

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Only thing is I wouldn't expect Ouya as a company to be around in the future, it's also not a videophile device if that matters. It also doesn't have access to Google Play store unless you hack it.

If it lives up to it's claims Pivos next box could sink the competition from what their saying with the features it's packing, it's pretty much what the OP is looking for with Android TV (Netflix, Hulu certified) and XBMC (with all the videophile stuff enabled, like 24Hz switching, HD audio bitstreaming), they've forked their own version of XBMC now called Tofu.

This next Pivos box sounds interesting. Is there a date assigned to it? The current one runs Linux XBMC fine but the Android version wasn't great when I was using it (months ago).

By Android TV do you mean the renamed Google TV with Chromecast built in?

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To be totally honest, one pain with XBMC is video add-ons not always functioning. For example, BBC World News and CNN International work perfectly via the Nowhere Man's private channel on Roku, but it doesn't (at least presently) via World News add-on in XBMC. I don't know... Another pain is BD-ISO playback is presently broken (via external player like TMT or PowerDVD) in XBMC Frodo 12.2 (had to search XBMC forum to find out). I want to settle on a single piece of hardware for my local (2D and 3D) and Internet video needs, and it seems we're still not there when it comes to hassle free solutions. I may go back to Roku for Internet content and Mede8er for local. frown.gif or smile.gif.

I too have noticed that about XBMC. Moreover, the video Addon for Amazon no longer works, Netflix stopped a while back, ... As more DRM creeps into streams XBMC will be left behind. Too bad really as it could have been all one needed. Under win8 you can flip be tween XBMC and win8 to get Hulu Plus, Netflix but not yet Amazon ( I mean without resorting to a browser) but then the remote that works in XBMC doesn't seem to work well in win8.

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Add-ons seem to be working fine for the most part again. No Netflix, but don't need it when so many other devices around the house have it. Amazon isn't as compelling as Netflix, at least to me. For these 'premium' apps, I just rely on Roku. I found the XBMC Hub "fusion" add-on a great way to get all unofficial add-ons. See here and here.

One thing that also makes XBMC operate more like a turn on and just use media player is OpenELEC. I have a Celeron NUC with just a 16GB mSATA and a 2GB memory stick and XBMC runs very smoothly. No issued with full BD rips. No support for 2D/3D BD ISO's however. I'm thinking of wiping out Windows 7 on my i3 NUC and installing OpenELEC as well. I was using an external player (TMT6) for ISO's, so need to decide if it's worth losing as I still have my Mede8er for that.

To OP's point though, there is no single ideal do-it-all streamer smile.gif.

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I have been looking for the same thing for a while, but to no avail. I was hoping the Chromecast would be the answer, but it is very early days ATM. I wanted to get something that worked similar to the Apple TV 2 (Jailbroken), but there doesn't seem to be anything similar to it. I was asking around as to what might be the best solution, and I was told an ​Acer Revo RL80 Nettop PC could be the answer, as it does what I need it to do and isn't too expensive. 

 

I am still looking around and might wait for a new Pivos XIOS to released as that seems to be the most popular method around.

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Any idea if there is serious work being done on a version of XBMC for the Roku units that managed to get the recent hack installed? That would be very welcome...
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Any idea if there is serious work being done on a version of XBMC for the Roku units that managed to get the recent hack installed? That would be very welcome...

I am pretty certain there will be no serious XBMC for Roku unless a solid lasting hack is developed. The recent hack has already been patched by Roku and is now useless. There may be an individual or two that would play with it on a box that was hacked when the short window was open, but most of the serious developers would not be wiling to put time into something that very few could use.

I also doubt you will see a Roku channel for xbmc, but that would be more likely than the former, IMO.
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Just broke down and bought a Samsung BD-F5900 3D player. It has a great Plex client, perhaps the best so far. It Direct Plays everything, as does the PlexPass GTV player on a Sony GTV GS7, so unlike the Roku it uses few resources on the Plex Media Server. Quite a nice Netflix too. The UI could be better for the player but it's actually a serious media player to consider in my opinion. I was personally delightfully surprised.

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Doesn't it have Cinavia protection that will trigger on movies played through Plex?
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All new Blu-Ray players introduced since the start of 2012 are required to have Cinavia copy protection built in by the terms of their Blu-Ray technology license. Media players lacking a Blu-Ray optical drive do not have that requirement.
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All new Blu-Ray players introduced since the start of 2012 are required to have Cinavia copy protection built in by the terms of their Blu-Ray technology license. Media players lacking a Blu-Ray optical drive do not have that requirement.

If you go for an older used Samsung Blu-Ray player like the BD-D5xxx (I have 2 BD-D5700 & 1 BD-D5300) there is a way to install custom firmware on them that disable cinavia (google: samygo) smile.gif I have them running and they work great for Plex.
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There seems to be a lot of posts here regarding roku... im looking for some answers from someone with hands on experience with one of these units . I use raspberry pi for xbmc and it works great!! mostly for 1channel but im not a big fan of its flimsiness. anyway... im reluctant to run out and buy another unit like roku without first knowing if it is capable of addons like 1channel. anyone able to steer me in the right direction?

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Roku is a closed environment product. Its a great product with lots of options. Just go to the ROKU site and you can see what channels are available. You can also google "private roku channels" and get a list of the many other channels available.

The Roku Media Player channel allows you to access local content via a DLNA server such as PLEX or SERVIIO (or even XBMC upnp). You'll need the server to transcode anything that is not compatible with ROKU if you want to play that media (see specs on Roku site). H264 MKV works well. PLEX has their own channel, I believe you have to pay to use it, but I may be wrong.

I like Roku for its Netflix and WatchESPN channels (best ESPN3 experience I've seen). I use a seperate XBMC box for my local media.
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Plex introduced a new purchase fee for their Roku client app in December 2013 (regular price $4.99, same as the Android and iOS clients). Prior to that it was free, and everyone who already had the free Roku Plex channel installed was automatically grandfathered and doesn't have to pay. Since paid apps are tied to the Roku account rather than the device, that's perpetual. Roku usually has a $1.99 client app sale once a year pre-Christmas if you want to wait.

Alternatively there's a free Plex Roku channel app currently available, still under development, called rarflix: https://forums.plex.tv/index.php/topic/79897-rarflix-modified-roku-channel/

Roku is normally a closed environment, but a rooting hack was published on Dec. 28, and those of us who took advantage of it before Roku closed it with a push update 1.5 days later now have open root access. Since my Roku 2 XS uses the exact same hardware as the Raspberry Pi, I can install XBMC on it if I want.
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I have never been terribly impressed with Plex.  There's nothing wrong with it at face value but its not my preferred choice.  

 

Plus with some of my higher bitrate BluRay rips I've found that WiFi just doesn't have the bandwidth to keep up with that.  Roku doesn't have an Ethernet connection (at least mine don't) so I just keep them around for streaming services.

 

What I would like to see (doubt it will ever happen) would be a Roku App for Windows.  I'd pay $20 for an app like that and then I'd just use my HTPC to open the Roku App and get rid of the extra boxes.

 

But like I said... I doubt that will ever happen.

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Well for Plex you could just use Plex Home Theater on your HTPC.

As for a Roku app for Windows, I don't think there's anything on Roku that you can't already get through a PC web browser. Just create your own index page with icons.
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Well for Plex you could just use Plex Home Theater on your HTPC.

As for a Roku app for Windows, I don't think there's anything on Roku that you can't already get through a PC web browser. Just create your own index page with icons.

yeah... web browsers and remotes don't play as nicely together as I'd like them to.  

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Well ... the Roku world has been turned upside down. Looks like it's finally been unlocked, and is now ready for full xbmc. Now then... Where's my wallet
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If you're referring to the news stories from last month that a method of rooting Roku boxes was discovered, which would allow xbmc to be installed, you're too late. That security loophole remained open only for a little over a day before Roku slammed it shut. And if you were lucky enough to root your box in that short time, Roku snuck in a special update just last night targeted at rooted boxes to un-root them. In theory if you still have a Roku 2 XS/XD that was rooted in that short window of time in December, and has not been connected to the internet in the last 24 hours, and you don't connect it to the internet again, you might be able to install xbmc in future if anyone gets around to doing the port.
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You are going to pay more than the $100 or so for a Roku, but you do gain functionality.

QNAP HD Station is what you are looking for. The basic model is the TS-269L. The TS-470Pro, is a smallest of their top end models.
They are for a person that does not know how, or does not desire to build an HTPC.

They have HDMI out for direct connection, iCore3 processor, HD Station software with XBMC, Google Chrome, ability to add on a wireless keyboard and mouse, and are app friendly.

These are an all in one solution. NAS, streamer, transcoder, web browser, app machine.

Again, since this thread is about streamers, I thought I would share another product with you, due to the popularity of XBMC.

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Thanks for the link to the QNAP's. Those are pretty nice, but seem pricey for the nicer models with more horsepower.

I was considering a nice Synology and maybe a mac mini as a plex client/server for the main room, and then running Roku/Plex or Chromecasts for the rest of the TV's around. But that solution might be just as much as the QNAP.
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yeah... web browsers and remotes don't play as nicely together as I'd like them to.  

What do you use?
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What do you use?

a ROKU.. the HTPC is just used for TV and streaming my ripped videos

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