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hello all,

i'm looking for a media player that has nexflix & HD audio (dolby true hd & dts-ha ma).

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hello all,

i'm looking for a media player that has nexflix & HD audio (dolby true hd & dts-ha ma).

Doesn't exist. You can build a mini HTPC with Intel NUC and possibly be able to do that.

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The WDTV Play has Netflix, supports DolbyTrueHD and bitstreams DTS-MA to your AVR. So if you don't need MPEG2 playback and network shares (it's DLNA only), this might be the player for you.

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WDTV Play supports the following:

MP3, WAV/PCM/LPCM, WMA, AAC, FLAC, MKA, AIF/AIFF, OGG, Dolby TrueHD

There is no support for bitstreaming DTS-MA.

WDTV Live and WDTV Live Hub supports the following:

Audio - MP3, WAV/PCM/LPCM, WMA, AAC, FLAC, MKA, AIF/AIFF, OGG, Dolby Digital, DTS

No mention of supporting True HD nor DTS-MA.


So, I am not sure where techflaws gets his information about WDTV supporting both True HD and DTS-MA.

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Also DLNA does not support and HD audio formats. DLNA supports the following LPCM 2 channel, MP3, WMA9, AC-3, AAC, ATRAC3Plus.

The WDTV media player do have Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, Pandora and other apps. If HD audio is a must for you, the WDTV isn't the choice.

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Well DTS-MA can work over DLNA as it's pretty flexible/loose on codecs but as you say the WDTV Play supporting DTS-MA in the first place is news to me also but apparently it does indeed support DTS-MA bit-streaming. Turns out not having a DTS license works in it's favour so it can bit-stream away.
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Also DLNA does not support and HD audio formats.
Not totally correct. HD Audio might not have been part of the original DLNA spec but its been working for several years as long as both the server and player support it.

As an example, prior to using XBMC (OpenELEC on an Intel NUC) I used a Synology DS212j (Synology Media Server) to stream MKVs (with DTS-MA and TrueHD) to an Oppo BDP-103 via DLNA and prior to that setup I used a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo (Twonky Media Server) and an Oppo BDP-93 with success.
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So then that would mean that the WDTV Play won't be able to downmix if need be.

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Techflaws is correct with his statement as it's written but it is a little misleading for the uninitiated.

The "Play" will bitstream DTS-MA but not TrueHD
The "Live" will bitstream TrueHD but not DTS-MA

Both units will use the lossy core of the non bitsreamed HD audio which is what make his statement correct. Technically they do SUPPORT both audio formats but I doubt it's the support (bitstream) the OP is looking for.

Gus is right, if you aren't going through a AVR you will lose the audio from one of the formats...I have this issue in my bedroom with a Live Plus and TrueHD mad.gif If you aren't going into an AVR I would go with the Live, the lesser of two evils, a lot less movies with TrueHD than DTS-MA.

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Techflaws is correct with his statement as it's written but it is a little misleading for the uninitiated.

The "Play" will bitstream DTS-MA but not TrueHD
The "Live" will bitstream TrueHD but not DTS-MA

Both units will use the lossy core of the non bitsreamed HD audio which is what make his statement correct. Technically they do SUPPORT both audio formats but I doubt it's the support (bitstream) the OP is looking for.

Gus is right, if you aren't going through a AVR you will lose the audio from one of the formats...I have this issue in my bedroom with a Live Plus and TrueHD mad.gif If you aren't going into an AVR I would go with the Live, the lesser of two evils, a lot less movies with TrueHD than DTS-MA.

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Not with the SMP Live I have it in my bedroom and it will play TrueHD without a AVR with no probs.
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Not with the SMP Live I have it in my bedroom and it will play TrueHD without a AVR with no probs.

Seriously? I will have to try it out, I have an older Live Plus hooked to a Panasonic plasma and I get no audio from my TrueHD movies. I will test it with the SMP I have in my living room.

Edit: Well I'll be....both my SMP Live AND my Live Plus running newer firmware downmix TrueHD to 2 channel now. You learn something new everyday smile.gif

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Unlike the WDTV Live, the Play DOES bitstream DTS. Can't find the official statement ATM but here's an explanation.

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The Sony BDP-S590 (and probably newer Sony players) supports all HD Audio via DLNA in an M2TS container.
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I own the Xtreamer Prodigy http://www.xtreamer.net/xtreamer-prodigy-upgraded/

 

It successfully bitstreams both Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD-MA 5.1/7.1 to my AVR. I have Blu-ray movie files on an external HDD, and it plays them perfectly with the corresponding audio signal.

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thanks all,

I guess I need to choose my pain. my WD Live does everything except dts-hd ma.

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I have my eye on the KDLINKS HD720 tons of very positive reviews on Amazon and does DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD
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I have my eye on the KDLINKS HD720 tons of very positive reviews on Amazon and does DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD

Yeah, those are reliable and very truthful reviews! rolleyes.gif

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thanks all,

I guess I need to choose my pain. my WD Live does everything except dts-hd ma.
And you need to be honest with yourself. Do you really have the audio setup and acoustics to hear the difference between DTS and DTS-HD. I know I don't. I have a pretty nice 5.1 audio setup with Polk speakers but when I compared the DTS sound from the Live-SMP to the DTS-HD sound from a Panasonic BD player for Avatar and a few others, I couldn't tell the difference.

DTS is already high quality at 1.5 Mbps. I think it's more important that the Live-SMP supports True-HD bitstreaming vs AC3 which is 640Kbps max.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to have DTS-HD support -- just because. But I'm not willing to move away from the Live-SMP and spend a lot more just because it doesn't do it. The firmware support for the WD Live players has been exemplary.

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thanks keelson,

I really needed to hear what you just said. I was looking at an oppo bdp-103 blue ray player. it does all my needs but no dolby true hd. there are more dts-hd ma titles out.
after hearing star trek into darkness, the dolby true hd blew me away. dts hs ma sounds much better than dts. i'm kinda anal about my sound. the Netflix super hd 5.1 dolbly digital + even sounds awesome. I just want what I want. but thanks for your comments!!

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And you need to be honest with yourself. Do you really have the audio setup and acoustics to hear the difference between DTS and DTS-HD. I know I don't. I have a pretty nice 5.1 audio setup with Polk speakers but when I compared the DTS sound from the Live-SMP to the DTS-HD sound from a Panasonic BD player for Avatar and a few others, I couldn't tell the difference.

DTS is already high quality at 1.5 Mbps. I think it's more important that the Live-SMP supports True-HD bitstreaming vs AC3 which is 640Kbps max.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to have DTS-HD support -- just because. But I'm not willing to move away from the Live-SMP and spend a lot more just because it doesn't do it. The firmware support for the WD Live players has been exemplary.

I don't know about you, but I can. Even when I had only a 5.1 set up I was able to hear a difference. However, I know of many people who do not hear any difference as well since they are more in tune with watching the movie rather than hearing whats going on around it biggrin.gif

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it's a big difference to me!!!
dts-hd ma rocks!!!

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Is there any player that downmixes HDaudio to stereo when connected to a TV?

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