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NavySeal 03-27-2014 11:13 AM

Will it be able to play a lot of different containers? Will it play user created content seamlessly?

Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Thanks to Brejesh here are some informative links:

"- XBMC Wiki
- fireTVnews
- Working Sideloaded APK List
- XDA Developers FTV Forum

Tip for using XBMC: make sure 'mediacodec' is disabled under video acceleration. Only 'libstagefright' should be enabled. Full 1080p videos play just fine.
Also, you should update to Gotham 13.1 as it runs slightly better than the OUYA (Frodo) version of XBMC.


And, for discussion, I personally find this thread at XBMC most helpful/useful."

NavySeal 04-02-2014 09:24 AM

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/02/amazon-announces-android-powered-streaming-stick/

Fire TV is not a barebones device like the Chromecast, it's a powerful platform with ties to the broader Amazon ecosystem. Inside the slim black plastic box is a quad-core CPU with a full 2GB of RAM -- that makes it more akin to a high-end smartphone than your typical streaming device. And its incredibly slim, shorter than a dime and with barely enough clearance for the small selection of ports around back.

And, true to the company's word, this is not a closed ecosystem. The device will launch with access to Hulu and Prime (obviously) but other partners will be added over time.

One of the LiveBlog pictures showed a "Video Library" folder which means personal content may be able to be played as well. There was also a Plex app icon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It supports 1080p, dolby digital surroud out via HDMI or optical.

watchy 04-02-2014 09:53 AM

Will it support bitstreaming and all that stuff?

NavySeal 04-02-2014 09:55 AM

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Will it support bitstreaming and all that stuff?

dunno yet.

Price $99

They say it's 3x faster than any of the competitors.

watchy 04-02-2014 09:58 AM

It says its available today. I'm going to order it as soon as their website shows it.

Owen778 04-02-2014 10:04 AM

I'm interested in this, but I've learned enough over the years that I never order anything electronic at release date.


NavySeal 04-02-2014 10:08 AM

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It says its available today. I'm going to order it as soon as their website shows it.

It's up now

Audio Support for Dolby Digital Plus, 5.1 surround sound, 2ch Stereo and HDMI audio pass through up to 7.1
Content Formats Supported

Video: H.263, H.264, MPEG4-SP, VC1
Audio: AAC, AC-3, E-AC-3, HE-A, PCM, MP3
Photo: JPG, PNG

bd2003 04-02-2014 10:09 AM

Gotta love amazon...took less time to order it than to read about it.

watchy 04-02-2014 10:14 AM

1 item will be shipped to Charles by Amazon.com. Estimated delivery: Apr. 3, 2014

I wonder if it actually shows up tomorrow?

I hope it doesn't suck.

bd2003 04-02-2014 10:16 AM

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1 item will be shipped to Charles by Amazon.com. Estimated delivery: Apr. 3, 2014

I wonder if it actually shows up tomorrow?

I hope it doesn't suck.

I've had a ton of stuff show up next day via prime.

watchy 04-02-2014 10:19 AM

Same h
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I've had a ton of stuff show up next day via prime.

I usually have things show up everyday using prime, but being as new as this is and probably thousands ordering it. I just hope I get mine shipped before its out of stock.

bd2003 04-02-2014 10:20 AM

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Same h
I usually have things show up everyday using prime, but being as new as this is and probably thousands ordering it. I just hope I get mine shipped before its out of stock.

It's amazon, they're pros at this. If it said it's in stock, it's in stock.

iatacs19 04-02-2014 10:21 AM

Will it support MKV via DLNA?

I really want to replace my slow WDTV...

turls 04-02-2014 10:24 AM

First fail: on the product page, the "logo" name is "FireTV", but the description is "Fire TV". Which is it?

watchy 04-02-2014 10:24 AM

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It's amazon, they're pros at this. If it said it's in stock, it's in stock.

I'm really hoping I can replace my Roku with this. Plex on roku is terrible. The interface sucks and it has issues playing a lot of remuxed MKVs. I hope if it has Plex it will be powerful and work correctly.

NavySeal 04-02-2014 10:25 AM

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Will it support MKV via DLNA?

I really want to replace my slow WDTV...

It definitely will via Plex. Plex is an awesome awesome app.

I have not seen definite information yet as far as playing personal media files. It supports it but to what extent I do not know.
as long as it supports Plex I am happy regardless. You can use Plex for free and it streams MKV no problem.
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I'm really hoping I can replace my Roku with this. Plex on roku is terrible. The interface sucks and it has issues playing a lot of remuxed MKVs. I hope if it has Plex it will be powerful and work correctly.

You can say that again. Plex works great on my Samsung TV though via the Plex Samsung App

methos75 04-02-2014 10:26 AM

Bought one just now not even really knowing if it can play external video files due to the issues with my WD TV I continually have. Guess we will see tomorrow if it does or does not.

bd2003 04-02-2014 10:29 AM

It's android, and they claim it's open. VLC, plex and XBMC will prob be ported by the end of the week. Even if it's locked down to any degree by default you'll prob be able to break it wide open without any hassle.

It's going to support every and anything.

bodosom 04-02-2014 10:41 AM

Show Time but no HBO? What's up with that?

rajuabju 04-02-2014 10:47 AM

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Will it support MKV via DLNA?

I really want to replace my slow WDTV...

Yup, a big decision for me as well, I love my WDTV, but the lack of Amazon Instant Video drives me nuts, plus its slow. On the other hand, it plays ALL my local files regardless of what format I throw at it.

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It's up now

Audio Support for Dolby Digital Plus, 5.1 surround sound, 2ch Stereo and HDMI audio pass through up to 7.1
Content Formats Supported

Video: H.263, H.264, MPEG4-SP, VC1
Audio: AAC, AC-3, E-AC-3, HE-A, PCM, MP3
Photo: JPG, PNG

Ok, not bad, but not great. I guess Plex is something I need to look into.


No Spotify or Google Play Music? HRM!!! I like Pandora but I cant live off that alone, I hope they get more music streaming apps quickly.

NavySeal 04-02-2014 10:47 AM

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Show Time but no HBO? What's up with that?

Update: Amazon could not confirm that HBO Go is coming to the Fire TV, only saying "we're working to get more content."
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No Spotify or Google Play Music? HRM!!! I like Pandora but I cant live off that alone, I hope they get more music streaming apps quickly.

I'm sure they will keep adding content.

From one review: "The Fire TV is runs on Android and as you would expect is hooked up to the firm's Prime Instant Video service for films and TV shows. However, you can also access other services from the little black box including Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, Vevo and Crackle."

rajuabju 04-02-2014 10:53 AM

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Update: Amazon could not confirm that HBO Go is coming to the Fire TV, only saying "we're working to get more content."
I'm sure they will keep adding content.

From one review: "The Fire TV is runs on Android and as you would expect is hooked up to the firm's Prime Instant Video service for films and TV shows. However, you can also access other services from the little black box including Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, Vevo and Crackle."

Where'd you see that review; Spotify is not on the official device webpage (that I can see anyhow)? Spotify support would basically sell me on this device..

NavySeal 04-02-2014 10:55 AM

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Where'd you see that review; Spotify is not on the official device webpage (that I can see anyhow)? Spotify support would basically sell me on this device..

Apparently it was on one of the screenshots on the presentation:

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/digital-home/3509796/amazon-announces-fire-tv-streaming-box/

It's available on the Kindle Fire HD tablet as well so I see no reason why they'd be making it up.

crbaldwin 04-02-2014 11:03 AM

Why no MPEG-2 support on most of these boxes (except WD)? It can't be that expensive, can it?

NavySeal 04-02-2014 11:19 AM

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Why no MPEG-2 support on most of these boxes (except WD)? It can't be that expensive, can it?

Something like $3.50 per device for the license. They don't feel they need it I suppose.

More details with a hands-on: http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/02/amazons-fire-tv-hands-on/

Sounds like the GUI is super responsive.

I wonder if it will eventually support the h.265 codec or if that will be in V.2

rajuabju 04-02-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NavySeal View Post

Something like $3.50 per device for the license. They don't feel they need it I suppose.

More details with a hands-on: http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/02/amazons-fire-tv-hands-on/

Sounds like the GUI is super responsive.

For a device that runs 30-50.. I'd agree. For $100? I want it to natively (without Plex, etc) support as many possible formats.

I'm going to wait a bit to see how the reviews look from people actually using it on a daily basis before jumping in... for now, my WD TV continues on

Aero 1 04-02-2014 11:25 AM

this thing doesnt seem to have IR for universal remotes. big fail for me.

User Guide: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/customerdocumentation/Amazon_Fire_TV_User_Guide.pdf

reddice 04-02-2014 11:26 AM

Dual band WiFi and Ethernet. I might order this thing and try it out as Amazon has a excellent return policy.
Still will like to know if HDMI is limited to RGB like the Roku 3 and also like the Roku 3 if the HDCP is overprotected if it will work with my Kinivo switch.
Just ordered it. I am going to use the port on my switch and disconnect my Chromecast to see if it works. If it does then I will order a 5 port switch. If not then I will have to connect it directly to my TV and see if the ATV3 will work with the switch then.

Edit I see the specs it does not have Gigabit Ethernet. That kind of stinks as no streaming device except for the PS3, PS4 and XBox One has Gigabit Ethernet.
Also does it have YouTube? I can't find it on the page.

calculon68 04-02-2014 11:38 AM

I'm deep into Amazon's ecosystem, (Prime, two Fire tablets, couple dozen books and hundreds of Instant Videos & thousands of MP3s) but I can't see the point in this STB when my Rokus fill the job nicely. No interest in Android gaming.

I wonder if Amazon will exclusively push 1080 Instant Video to these devices like they do their Fire HDX tablets. (720 everywhere else) That's a thin reason to drop $100.

reddice 04-02-2014 11:40 AM

Well Android gaming interest me as I got a bunch of apps off the Amazon Appstore for free thanks to the free app of the day. I wonder if they will work with the Fire or not?


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