Originally Posted by aflorida
I am a bit confused by some recent posts after I posted my findings yesterday...
****STREAMIMG NETFLIX-again I will describe my connections and my results when streaming Netflix (House of Cards/Breaking Bad are 2 examples)via the FMPX10 apps. I have the media player HDMI 1(audio/video)connected to my Sony 65 inch 850A HDMI 4 port. Since my Lexicon MC12 processor is older and does not have HDMI at all(only toslink and coaxil) I am using Toslink out of my 850A to my processor. This by the way is how I have my HD cable Box connected using TV's HDMI 1 port. And the TV Toslink does send a 5.1 Dolby digital signal to my lexicon processor. The front panel of my Lexicon tells me so...when it is not 5.1 and only 2 channel it shows 2 channel on my front panel. This change occurs depending on the signal (Ofcause TV setting is set to TV speakers OFF/Audio System ON) So with streaming Netflix with my FMPX10 media player I am getting 4K AND 5.1 dolby digital when the program has the 5.1 signal. All is right with the world!
***DOWNLOADING MOVIES and CLIPS-this is not the case for Downloading movies(Spider Man 2 for example)or the 4K clips with my media player. if the program (Spider Man 2) is in 5.1 Dolby Digital it does not pass thru as 5.1 Dolby digital from the TV toslink to my Lexicon processor (STREAMING does as I noted above but NOT with any DOWNLOADS)The front panel shows 2 channel Stereo and I have it set to LOGIC7 (simulated surround sound)which I could easily change to PLII (simulated surround sound). You get 4K resolution but not 5.1 ...You get 1 and not the other!!!
So I need some clarification because I am a bit confused by some recent posts about this subject since I posted my findings just yesterday ( I am a new here on this forum)
My obvious question is WHY?
Why when using my FMPX10 media player and streaming (House of Cards - Netflix) for example all is right with the world. Both 4K resolution and 5.1 Dolby digital passing thru my TV toslink to my Lexicon processor (if ofcause the program is in 5.1 Dolby Digital)
when using my FMPX10 media player and DOWNLOADING films or clips (Spider Man 2 for example) all is NOT right with the world. Only 4K resolution is ofcause received but only 2 Channel Stereo passes thru my TV toslink to my lexicon processor.
Is this some sort of copyright issue???? Is this the NORM behavior of this FMPX10. And if it is..and it is not some sort of copyright issue..will this be corrected in a firmware update?
Please reply back.
I'm experiencing the exact same issue with my FMP-X10 and 850A. The 850A will send whatever signal is going in through the HDMI port out the Toslink port. I think it has something to do with the compression/codec used to play a movie that has been downloaded onto the hard drive from Sony's service vs streaming the content through Netflix. Sony makes you download the movie before watching it so you won't experience lots of buffering through their service, and once it's downloaded, you can play it in native 4K. We all know that Sony has capped the download speed, which is why they make you download the entire movie first. Netflix's streams are the only non-proprietary 4k content available, and they stream it using the H.265/HEVC decoder at 15.6 Mbps. From what I've recently learned, today’s TVs and other devices have decompression software on a chip inside the device. But chips with 4K decompression haven’t hit the market, so the 4K TVs arriving in the marketplace are improvising their decompression solutions. Sony’s new 4K TVs and accompanying 4K media player use compression from tech company eyeIO, which it a proprietary type of compression technology. In May, they approved H.265 as the "official" standard for software and hardware to encode and decode 4k content, and also according to the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers, broadcasters are limited by law to use 19Mbps, or less, in bandwidth. Some broadcasters use the entire 19Mbps like CBS, NBC, and PBS HD. Others might only use 12Mbps for HD content and use 1200 pixels instead of 1920 pixels for HD content, which of course isn't it's full potential. Currently, to process H.265, software based decoders are being used, but once hardware starts hitting the market that has built in H.265 hardware acceleration, a lot of these issues with sound and video will be fixed. Maybe the reason some of us aren't getting the quality of picture and sound that we expected to get has something to do with Sony's proprietary compression they're using on the FMP-X10. Some hardware works, some doesn't. Once everyone is on the same page and there's enough hardware with built in H.265 compression, instead of it being software encoding, then we won't have these issues, but I'm just guessing from the research I've been doing recently. Sony though, is using proprietary encoding, hence the 2 HDMI ports to watch, and hear, one show. This article, http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...-2014/#!bHDVGk
, lists quite a few companies who are currently providing streaming 4k content, and there should be another 10-12 more by the end of the year. And regarding the copy protection that keeps coming up, HDMI 2.0 is necessary to view 4k content, but HDMI 2.0 isn't HDCP 2.2 (high defininition copy protection) compliant. HDMI 1.4 is and you can view 4k content at 30 frames per second, but to take advantage of a higher framerate, color, and bit depth to fully enjoy 4k, you must use HDMI 2.0.
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