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I just started episode 4 of season 1 (Breaking Bad) finally hit 2160 HD...So obviously it's a saturation thing with Netflix..

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eeeehhhh, it depends on the provider and other factors. Don't write off Netflix immediately. I was an alpha tester for their online service back when all anyone knew of them was mail based movies and have been with them since. They have had ups and downs as far as content, but money makes the world go round (ie licensing, access, etc) and the loser is ALWAYS the consumer. Give em a full thirty days.
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Got got my X10 up and running and originally tried to run WiFi since I'm running a high end Asus RT-AC66 wireless router.... LoL....., A 4 minute trailer was taking almost an hour to download - switched to hardwired and download the clip in seconds, literally....I'm running TWC 100/mb

Man, just watched Karmin performance on Jimmy Kimmel show, one of the included free 4k vids, just amazing!

Switched to Netflix and streamed the moving art flowers video, amazing!! I'm just impressed and satisfied I have a 900A now, can't wait to show these clips off to family and friends!
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eeeehhhh, it depends on the provider and other factors. Don't write off Netflix immediately. I was an alpha tester for their online service back when all anyone knew of them was mail based movies and have been with them since. They have had ups and downs as far as content, but money makes the world go round (ie licensing, access, etc) and the loser is ALWAYS the consumer. Give em a full thirty days.
Negative,

I will blame Netflix because they couldn't provide enough bandwidth for actual 4k content until the load got lighter on their servers. Right around 11:00 PST, when all the folks on the east coast started calling it a night. .
I've never used Netflix due to the fact I have a few friends that run PLEX (and thank god for that). I'm sure it's adequate for watching 720/1080 content (as it was for me tonight), but no where near ready for streaming 4K..

I'm on a gigabit network service that is fairly exclusive to a few square miles in North Vegas, no where near max capacity as far as a customer base goes...I kill everything around me as far as dl/ul speeds go (around 1100Mbps down and 950Mbps up on average ). It's not just me, it's been stated several times in this thread. ..

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Yep. I can confirm you do not get to keep the 10 movies. Each time I tried to connect an external hard drive it wanted to format it. I formatted my hard drive and downloaded Bad Teacher and then tried to connect it to the X10 and it said I have to format the hard drive. Only purchased content can be transferred, although some have said they could download Elysium. Since I didn't get that offer I cannot confirm that.

I would imagine they count the free videos, movies and TV shows (each episode) and that's where they get the 200.

I can't comment on the pq as I don't have the eye for that.
Thanks, have you tried downloading Bad Teacher to the internal harddrive of the X10 to see if you have to really rebuy it?
Maybe it is only necessary to download it again?

Yes I think they are counting just about anything to make it to 200!
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Just for the hell of it I signed up for Netflix. ...free month. I'm not to familiar with it, but it's not just you. I have a gigabit connection and don't get past super HD on house of cards. ... Netflix is crap...

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You have to watch house of cards season 2 for 4k
Season 1 is not 4k.
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I just started episode 4 of season 1 (Breaking Bad) finally hit 2160 HD...So obviously it's a saturation thing with Netflix..

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That is the main problem with streaming. Your signal can be downgraded to super HD or even lower at any time if your internet can't keep up.

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Hi guys, thanks for all the info so far but I've love to know what other 4K file formats the X10 can play over USB, e.g. ts, m2ts, avi, and whether it can play 60p 4K content over USB also.

Thanks again.
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Hi guys, thanks for all the info so far but I've love to know what other 4K file formats the X10 can play over USB, e.g. ts, m2ts, avi, and whether it can play 60p 4K content over USB also.

Thanks again.
I don't have one yet to try
This is from the manual but doesn't say if all applies to the USB input:

The following video file formats can be played on the 4K Media Player.
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The maximum bitrate is 60 Mbps.
MP4 (H.265 HEVC)
Video: up to 3840 x 2160
Frame rate: 60p

MP4 (H.264 AVC)
Video: up to 3840 x 2160, 8 bit
Frame rate: 24p, 25p, 30p, 50p, 60p

XAVC S
Video: up to 3840 x 2160, 8 bit
Frame rate: 24p, 25p, 30p, 50p (*1), 60p (*1), 100p (*2), 120p (*2)
*1 up to 1920 x 1080
*2 up to 1280 x 720
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Hi guys, thanks for all the info so far but I've love to know what other 4K file formats the X10 can play over USB, e.g. ts, m2ts, avi, and whether it can play 60p 4K content over USB also.

Thanks again.
Grr. I won't be around a PC to load more content on my USB until Monday. Hopefully someone else can check for you.
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I don't have one yet to try
This is from the manual but doesn't say if all applies to the USB input:

The following video file formats can be played on the 4K Media Player.
Note
The maximum bitrate is 60 Mbps.
MP4 (H.265 HEVC)
Video: up to 3840 x 2160
Frame rate: 60p

MP4 (H.264 AVC)
Video: up to 3840 x 2160, 8 bit
Frame rate: 24p, 25p, 30p, 50p, 60p

XAVC S
Video: up to 3840 x 2160, 8 bit
Frame rate: 24p, 25p, 30p, 50p (*1), 60p (*1), 100p (*2), 120p (*2)
*1 up to 1920 x 1080
*2 up to 1280 x 720
Yeah, I've seen the specs but ain't nothing like actually trying it out.
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Yeah, I've seen the specs but ain't nothing like actually trying it out.
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Hello, I'm about to buy the FMP-X10 have some doubts hopefully can help me ..

1.- The movie playback has audio options and subtitles in movies?

2.- The included cable in X10 player is HDMI 2.0 support 60fps?

3.- The connection in HDMI 4 in X900A series is the only one that supports HDCP 2.2?
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Thanks for the info on House of Cards, I was wondering if that might be the case because E.1 S.1 looked horrible.

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Hello fellow owners,

I can't seem to get past about 15MB download speed with my player. I've tested the connection with a laptop and it easily hits 50MB. Do I need to tweak something in my router or am I missing something in the X10 config (yes, I made sure it was set to 'Unlimited')?
One other point of clarity: I'm watching the speed on the Settings screen. Seems to fluctuate around 7-8MB at the moment while downloading, and it's hard wired. Doesn't make sense to me, unless it's something Sony is doing but since the rest of your are seeing 30MB, I'm back to being puzzled. Any ideas?
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Hello, I'm about to buy the FMP-X10 have some doubts hopefully can help me ..

1.- The movie playback has audio options and subtitles in movies?

2.- The included cable in X10 player is HDMI 2.0 support 60fps?

3.- The connection in HDMI 4 in X900A series is the only one that supports HDCP 2.2?

1. As for audio options, if you run HDMI 2 from the X10 to your AVR you can use listening modes you prefer. I like PCM audio. Yes there are subtitle options.

2. I'm not sure of the provided cables specs, but I would assume so considering the players specs posted above by mdjones...I'm using different cables, but I would think it works just fine.

3. Correct, HDMI 4 (HDCP 2.2 compliant) is the one you want to use with the X10.

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[QUOTE=Geoff D;25869610]Hi guys, thanks for all the info so far but I've love to know what other 4K file formats the X10 can play over USB, e.g. ts, m2ts, avi, and whether it can play 60p 4K content over USB also.

I Played this (COSTA RICA IN 4K 60fps (ULTRA HD) w Freefly Movi.mp4) . Used 4k video downloader. Video from youtube and it played fine on usb.
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Thanks for the info on House of Cards, I was wondering if that might be the case because E.1 S.1 looked horrible.

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Sure the other 4K netflix options are:
Breaking bad - entire series
Smurfs 2
Moving Art - nature documentary
Ghostbusters 1 and 2 (US only)

I wonder if the Sony version of Ghostbusters from the player looks better than the Netflix version streamed. I hope so.
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Sure the other 4K netflix options are:
Breaking bad - entire series
Smurfs 2
Moving Art - nature documentary
Ghostbusters 1 and 2 (US only)

I wonder if the Sony version of Ghostbusters from the player looks better than the Netflix version streamed. I hope so.
Hitch is on there too. It looks awful though.
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I Played this (COSTA RICA IN 4K 60fps (ULTRA HD) w Freefly Movi.mp4) . Used 4k video downloader. Video from youtube and it played fine on usb.
Was the file itself 60p though? The comments for that video say that youtube boils everything down to 30fps.
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1. As for audio options, if you run HDMI 2 from the X10 to your AVR you can use listening modes you prefer. I like PCM audio. Yes there are subtitle options.

2. I'm not sure of the provided cables specs, but I would assume so considering the players specs posted above by mdjones...I'm using different cables, but I would think it works just fine.

3. Correct, HDMI 4 (HDCP 2.2 compliant) is the one you want to use with the X10.

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Thank you very much for your attention and answer options have audio languages ​​(Spanish, Portuguese, French)?

In Part subtitle options also have translations languages ​​(Spanish, Portuguese, French)?

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Downloaded 4k video downloader on my desktop. How do I download Youtube 4k clips from the 4k downloader to USB? How big the USB drive should be for the clips? Does the computer have to be 4k capable to download youtube clips to USB?

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I got mine today as well

-So far the Netflix Cards is beautiful (saw season two part 1)..

-Those with nettflix.. watch the series Moving Art .. they look amazing..

-The back usb is for Sonys 4k Hardrive extension to save 4k sony downloaded movies.

- the front is for user usb 4k movies..and only ( so far in testing ) only mp4's.. It doesn't do mkv.

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also the best example of a well made 4k is from one of the freebies on the 4k service from sony,, MicroWorlds Butterflies.. BEautiful!!
Netflix 4k quality is great....for some content. The Moving Art episodes blew me away. I never would have guessed they were Netflix streams. Check out the last 3 minutes of the Moving Art: Flowers short.

Netflix 4K content is limited at the moment. Feature films include: Hitch, Surfs 2, Philadelphia and Ghostbusters. TV Series: Breaking Bad and House of Cards. The Moving Art shorts are mixed. When lighting is good, you get excellent results (Moving Art: Deserts opening). When lighting conditions are bad (Moving Art: Forests opening) you get a murky image.

I'm happy with the device, just not wild about the little remote it ships with. What were they thinking with that design for the top row of buttons (audio and input)?? Not made for adult fingers for sure.

I'll keep my unit. Netflix and being able to play 4K off USB are best features in my opinion.
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Netflix and being able to play 4K off USB are best features in my opinion.
Out of curiosity, what's the practical benefit of being able to play 4k off USB? Are people authoring their own 4k content?
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Does anyone know if total recall is already downloaded on the machine? I see in previous posts people have said Elysium is already downloaded so you can buy it and watch it immediately. Just wondering if the same is true with total recall.
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Out of curiosity, what's the practical benefit of being able to play 4k off USB? Are people authoring their own 4k content?
Yes, I output 4K from my Mac Pro using Final Cut.
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Downloaded 4k video downloader on my desktop. How do I download Youtube 4k clips from the 4k downloader to USB? How big the USB drive should be for the clips? Does the computer have to be 4k capable to download youtube clips to USB?
Just go to YouTube and copy the video URL then open the 4kdownloader and press paste URL. It will start the download.

I would have at least a 4gb USB drive, but the bigger the better.
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I think it would be good to keep a running list of the "4k" content worth watching. Sounds like it's a bit hit or miss
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I downloaded the new spiderman movie clip that is 4 mins long in under 20 min...so yeah, it sounds like your internet speed is just a little shy.


Are you wired or wireless? That can make a huge impact. I am wireless, but just to test, I used a cable to test the speed again, and I was able to download another clip even faster. If you are wireless see if you run a cable to go wired. Another solution is those power inline adapters. They come in a pair of 2, they plug into a wall outlet and you run a cable from the router to one of the adapters. You then plug the second adapter into a wall outlet near where you need it and you run a cable from that adapter to the media player. It transmits the data through the wall socket. It works really well and better than using Wi-Fi/wireless. Here is link to one of them from best buy.


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/netgear-...0002&cp=1&lp=1
Thanks for the info, I am going to give these adapters a try. One question though, would this be considered a wireless connection still or do I have to change my internet settings on the device?
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Dropping wifi

Anyone having issues with their X10 consistently dropping wifi? I've also encountered some strange issues where the entire screen turns white and a weird error message appears at the upper left hand corner of the screen. Can't get rid of it without restarting -- sometimes unplugging is necessary.
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Sony FMP-X10 owners thread

As an aside, I really wish sony would realize their proprietary approach to things hurts everybody, including them. Unfortunately, they were rewarded with blu-ray since they "won" but not that many people buy blu-rays, partially because the format war kept people on the sidelines and they got used to it. They've killed themselves by trying to capture the whole market rather than accept a part of a much broader market. Minidisc, sacd, atrac vs mp3, and now potentially 4k. It's like they want to force people into valuing their conglomerate rather than accept what it is. A growing 4k market would benefit the whole market, particularly the first movers. So, encourage people rather than create walled gardens....

My fear with the x10 is that they will limit additional services like amazon because it could cannibalize sales from their exorbitantly prices movie rentals and purchases. We then will have paid $500 for the right to overpay for Sony's movies.

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