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post #61 of 1708 Old 01-23-2015, 04:04 PM
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I started using Tidal yesterday as trail. On my iPhone 6 Plus I have stream on both Wifi and 4G LTE and not issue at all. No a single drop or lag. Gaps between song are about non existent for me and and I like the quality of audio.

At home I have two ways to play it. First one is MacBook Air connected to my integrated amp Rotel RA-1570 using USB which has a good DAC. Second way is with Apple TV optical out to. The same integrated amp.

My question is the first choice with UBS should be the best option. Right?


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Confirmed drop outs were as a result of my wife not Tidal. After fixing wifi tidal has worked flawless. As far as I can tell Tidal will be something I stick with.
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Im using the free trial of tidal and I really like it so far but the problem is get 1 minute drop out every 5-10 minutes... can't seem to solve it... connection speed is 30mbps; if i can solve my drop out issue i might pay for it
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I don't know what to think.

My first two days, I liked what I heard. BUT, I was getting 15 to 20 seconds of dropouts for every minute of playing time.

On my third day I listened for about 45 minutes straight without one dropout. But then the dropouts started again for the next ten minutes or so, then I shut it off. I haven't tried it today.

I'm using a Galaxy Note 4 with an OTG cable into a NuForce uDAC2 into a pair of Sony MDR-1RBT. The Note 4 is 802.11AC compliant and my WiFi is from an Asus RT-68ACU router, also 802.11AC. I have a 75meg FiOS service and around my house Speed Test says I get 85meg on my phone. Low would be around 60meg.

During that 45 minute stretch yesterday, I tried my Jaybird Bluetooth APTx adapter plugged into the headphone out of the uDAC2. At first it was very distorted until I realized I was over driving the input of the Jaybird. After turning down the volume on the uDAC2 and raising the volume on the Sonys the distortion was gone and I was getting impressed until the dropouts started again.

In a perfect world:
1. The dropouts would be gone.
2. TIDAL would work with my USB Audio Player Pro on my Note 4.
3. My headphones were APTx.

BTW, I'm very familiar with the best recordings of the best songs of Boz Scaggs, The Eagles, Sting and Santana. But those particular cuts, were for the most part, missing, despite a rather sizable collection of each.

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I use an Apple iPad Air 2 using Airplay thru my SC-1523 and the dropouts have been non existent but I do have approximately 5 second gap between songs. My old iPhone 4 was awful with Tidal but the new 6 works without issue also using Airplay. I think the cost is a little high but considering the quality and quantity of music available I'm okay with it.

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Ill be honest. When I first signed up I thought $20 was to high. Given the fact I new realize Tidal is more then just access to high quality music i think its well worth the price. The design of the interface makes it very easy to get introduced to all sorts of new music an artist (something I have been lacking). I have been using it for probably 10 hours combined listening and only listened to 1 song I previously knew.

I generally someone who is really good at point out what could make things better, or what is poor designed. Im having a hard time with Tidal. If they ever get to the point of streaming 14/192 or DSD they would be a perfect 10.

Keep up the good work Tidal.
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I do have one suggestions, and just assumed it would be there.

Amazingly, i cant share and playlist, album etc with another Tidal user. My friend has Tidal, and I made a playlist that I thought he might like too. It would be a great feature to allow me to share the list with him. Honestly when I saw the "share" option I assumed this was possible.
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*Official* Tidal music streaming thread

I have a question just to clarify. If I AirPlay Tidal albums to Airport Express connected to a external DAC using optical output the ALAC files will go all the way through to the DAC with out any conversions as 44.1/16bit? For example unlike Apple TV does by up-scaling to 48kHz.

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That one I'm not sure about, as I've only ever used airplay to stream wirelessly. You'll probably have to ask Tidal or maybe even Mac support.
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*Official* Tidal music streaming thread

Well looking only most seems to agreed that AirPlay does send ALAC 44.1/16 through AirPlay but coming out of Apple TV optical out it becomes 48khz

But I heard that on Airport Express it comes in wireless as 44.1/16 and stays the same coming out of the optical out.

Just wanted to confirm
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Im pretty sure that if you stream it wireless the bit rate drops. Isnt bluetooth limited to 320?
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I'm enjoying Tidal tremendously. The quality and selection make it a no-brainer for $20/month. I've had a few instances of drop outs but nothing that spoiled the party.
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Im pretty sure that if you stream it wireless the bit rate drops. Isnt bluetooth limited to 320?

AirPlay uses Wifi on Airport Express and Apple TV.

Found this article pretty detailed http://www.computeraudiophile.com/co...rport-express/

Answered 90% of my question


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Sorry, yea.

Im not sure why I was thinking blue tooth. Maybe because my HA1 has a blue tooth connection. That said there are a lot of blue tooth portable speakers that wouldnt work with tidal in the sense of getting the lossless audio.
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*Official* Tidal music streaming thread

Tidal posted on some ones comment on Twitter, the guy was asking something about the promotional video.
"Hi ----- . The reason why we use .aac in our video is to show the difference between HIGH and HiFi in TIDAL. Our "High quality" is 320kbps AAC, while our HiFi is FLAC 1411kbps. 

We are happy to inform you that we are working on High Resolution as well. We are still testing this, and may test for a while. The main problem right now is that there is a low amount of content available with that quality.

We are also working hard on the connectivity. Since launch, we have included 12 integrations and informed about 20 other partnerships coming up. Please follow us on Twitter, Facebook or Google+ for more information regarding our integrations.

Best, TIDAL."


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Interesting. I never understood why there is a low amount of music in hi rez. Is it that it exists but that record companies are just not making it available? Seems to me that if anyone is creating a new song it would be easy to simultaneously creat a hi Rez version along side a stranded version. No?
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Well many studios didn't start recording 96/24 until recently in the scale of music time.

Many music albums do not have hi res masters
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How would I go about streaming tidal hifi either from my htpc or my galaxy s4 phone to my denon 4311 receiver. My preference would be for me to be able to use my android phone to control the Tidal Application on my htpc and then have the streams sent from the PC to the receiver via dlna across a home LAN. I do this now with locally stored flac files on my hard drives using plex on the htpc, plus the phone with the bubbleupnp app. Not sure how I could integrate that with the tidal streaming service. Appreciate any help/suggestions.
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Bubble uPNP justadded native Tidal support. As far as I can tell, it treats Tidal as another DLNA server, so if you've got DLNA working in your home it should do just fine.
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Bubble uPNP justadded native Tidal support. As far as I can tell, it treats Tidal as another DLNA server, so if you've got DLNA working in your home it should do just fine.
Excellent! I wasn't aware of that. Are there any issues remaining with running the android tidal app on a galaxy s4 phone? I thought I saw that there were some compatibility issues given that it is not currently running lollipop os version.
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Got no idea. My phone is ~ 3 years old, a total dinosaur in today's market.
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I'm so loving Tidal. Super happy with the service.
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*Official* Tidal music streaming thread

So “Jay Z is buying Spotify rival Tidal for $56 million” indirectly

http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/30/j...e-breaks-over/


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I'm happy to know now they got the money to make it work


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Excellent! I wasn't aware of that. Are there any issues remaining with running the android tidal app on a galaxy s4 phone? I thought I saw that there were some compatibility issues given that it is not currently running lollipop os version.
I didn't have very good luck with using offline files on my S4. They constantly skipped. I'm not sure if it was an issue with the downloaded copies or the playback of them. I canceled my trial the next day and will stick with my Spotify premium account until I upgrade my phone in the summer. If I would have used it on my home system, I might have kept it, but for my portable use it just wasn't worth double the price of Spotify. I commute on the subway which pretty much drowns out the increase in sound quality.
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*Official* Tidal music streaming thread

I subscribe to Tidal for my home set up, I actually change it to stream 320kbs on my phone when I'm at work on my earbuds.
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Excellent! I wasn't aware of that. Are there any issues remaining with running the android tidal app on a galaxy s4 phone? I thought I saw that there were some compatibility issues given that it is not currently running lollipop os version.
My Galaxy Note 4 phone runs Kit Kat. The Tidal app runs perfectly on it.
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So “Jay Z is buying Spotify rival Tidal for $56 million” indirectly

http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/30/j...e-breaks-over/


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Wow, 56 million sounds cheap.
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Wow, 56 million sounds cheap.

I think he went for it very early in the game, Also at $20 a month they know is not going to be as big as Spotify. Not every one has a music system that merits the use of Tidal.

For me is all about my home stereo. I got a decent set up and FLAC/ALAC are a must.

Being able to take those file on my phone at work is just icing on the cake but not the cake it self to me.
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