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Ultraflix just added support, so now we've got even more content available. You'll need a mouse connected to complete the login process the first time.
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I have a 2-3 second audio dropout issue on Amazon and other apps with 5.1 channel surround. I've replaced all cables (HDMI, ethernet, etc) to no effect.

I have the 2015 Shield on ethernet connection (briefly tried wi-fi, didn't help) and HDMI to Yamaha TSR-5810 reciever, then HDMI to TV.

This issue does NOT rear its ugly head with my 2nd-gen Fire TV hooked up the same way to the same receiver and TV. But dammit, I like the Shield better than the FTV otherwise.

Trying to figure out if the problem is in the Shield or the Yamaha.

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I have a 2-3 second audio dropout issue on Amazon and other apps with 5.1 channel surround. I've replaced all cables (HDMI, ethernet, etc) to no effect.

I have the 2015 Shield on ethernet connection (briefly tried wi-fi, didn't help) and HDMI to Yamaha TSR-5810 reciever, then HDMI to TV.

This issue does NOT rear its ugly head with my 2nd-gen Fire TV hooked up the same way to the same receiver and TV. But dammit, I like the Shield better than the FTV otherwise.

Trying to figure out if the problem is in the Shield or the Yamaha.

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I have five Shields. Four are 2015 models and one is a 2017 model. Two of them are connected to AVRs and three are not. On one of those two AVRs I have a similar problem. I never get any audio dropouts on any of the other four.

It is my opinion that the faulty "set" is the result of a faulty AVR, and NOT the Shield, but I haven't conclusively proven that yet. I intend to upgrade my AVR sometime within the next 6 months (waiting for the Denon x3400h to drop $200-$300 first), at which point I will know for sure....
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Any 4K HDR users on here run their NVidia Shield into and out of an Oppo UDP-203?

Apparently the oppo has one HDMI input (for exactly this purpose) and two HDMI outputs (one HDMI 2.0 port for passing 4K HDR directly to my new 4K HDR TV, and a second HDMI 1.4 port for passing Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD-MA (and probably Atmos, although I don't do that) to my "old" AVR in parallel)... they basically forsaw this problem and at least *tried* to solve it for me. Which is very cool.

Anyone do this? Does it work well? This seems like a desireable solution to the problem of having an "old" non-HDMI 2.0 non-HDCP-2.2 compliant AVR, relative to the other solutions I had been considering up until I learned about this:

1) Upgrade my AVR *today*, which is costly as I am still hoping for a Dolby Vision firmware update for Shield, I purchased a TV that Sony has publicly promised would be getting a DV firmware update, and as such am only looking to buy a DV compliant AVR "in series" with my Shield-->TV chain, of which their are not many to choose from, and the ones that are tend to be $$$ at the Watts-per-channel I'd want.
2) Connect my Shield directly to the TV, and then come out of the TV via ARC to my AVR, which would give me 4K HDR access for video on Netflix and Amazon, at the expense of losing Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD-MA support for my 1080p blu ray collection, of which I have invested considerable time and money to cultivate.
3) Run two HDMI cables to the Shield. One from the TV (for ARC) and one from the AVR (for lossless blu ray audio). Then get my lazy arse up off the couch to flip the cable manually whenever I want to switch from Netflix HDR to Plex Blu Ray (thus defeating half the purpose of ripping my blu ray collection by nullifying the point-and-click convenience of locally stored digital media).
4) Try to get an HDMI splitter from somewhere like HDFury (not at all an elegant solution, in my mind, as I'm not sure it will work the way I want (flawlessly) and not as cheap as I'd like it to be to just get a splitter)
5) Try this Oppo 203, which seems to give me all of "benefits" that any of the other 4 options accomplish, *and* a physical media player (which I probably want/need anyway, at least until 4K UHD ripping software becomes available), at a price that isn't *that much more* than an HDFury ripper, and considerably less than a new AVR...
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Any 4K HDR users on here run their NVidia Shield into and out of an Oppo UDP-203?...
I see you've posted over in the UDP-203 thread, which is what I was going to recommend. Check that thread for discussion on the "HDMI In" capability that you'd be using. While my OPPO has been flawless for me (my Shield runs directly to my AVR, as does my OPPO), others continue to report problems with specific usage of that function, including IIRC intermittent audio drop outs. It's an acknowledged bug OPPO is working on. With dual cables, you may not have a problem, but you want to be very sure you get a straight answer -- not the generic ones of "this is how it's supposed to work". I'm sure others will jump in with more specifics.
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I did at one time have my Shield installed in the 203's HDMI Input after I installed the beta firmware which allows for HDR through this input. I've been having handshaking issues between the Shield and the 203 and just did not have time to troubleshoot the issue, but HDR does work. Others found within the 203 Thread have had success with this set up.

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I see you've posted over in the UDP-203 thread, which is what I was going to recommend. Check that thread for discussion on the "HDMI In" capability that you'd be using. While my OPPO has been flawless for me (my Shield runs directly to my AVR, as does my OPPO), others continue to report problems with specific usage of that function, including IIRC intermittent audio drop outs. It's an acknowledged bug OPPO is working on. With dual cables, you may not have a problem, but you want to be very sure you get a straight answer -- not the generic ones of "this is how it's supposed to work". I'm sure others will jump in with more specifics.
Thanks. That's EXACTLY the kind of input I'm looking for.

*IF* it works, I could upgrade my AVR (to one that DOESN'T support Dolby Vision) for better Audessey cal, WPC, etc, AND get this OPPO for physical media playback for not much more than it would cost to just get an AVR with the audessey + WPC I want plus Dolby Vision support... it really would be a great avenue to pursue, IMO.

But like you said, if and only if this feature works well....
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Thanks. That's EXACTLY the kind of input I'm looking for.

*IF* it works, I could upgrade my AVR (to one that DOESN'T support Dolby Vision) for better Audessey cal, WPC, etc, AND get this OPPO for physical media playback for not much more than it would cost to just get an AVR with the audessey + WPC I want plus Dolby Vision support... it really would be a great avenue to pursue, IMO.

But like you said, if and only if this feature works well....
Do realize many OPPO owners don't believe DV will ever work with HDMI In... it certainly does not today, and is not stated in the documentation as a supported feature if that is what you're thinking. Lots of opinions, but mine is that most of us on the forum don't know the true licensing and implementation facts related to DV (but that does not stop lots of supposition), and given DV is all about Dolby ensuring consistent content from creation-to-end display, I don't see OPPO or any other mfgr ever opening up some ability that could subvert that one way or another. Time will tell. Just realize, HDMI In may be a good solution for basic 4K (and maybe even HDR), but it likely won't support 100% of what the OPPO can do with other sources it can play.

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Thanks. That's EXACTLY the kind of input I'm looking for.

*IF* it works, I could upgrade my AVR (to one that DOESN'T support Dolby Vision) for better Audessey cal, WPC, etc, AND get this OPPO for physical media playback for not much more than it would cost to just get an AVR with the audessey + WPC I want plus Dolby Vision support... it really would be a great avenue to pursue, IMO.

But like you said, if and only if this feature works well....
I use my Nintendo Switch through my Oppo 203. Different situation because it isn't a 4k device but I am out of ports on my AVR and the Switch only outputs 5.1 PCM so my LG only passes through 2.0 PCM. I have my Oppo connected directly to my LG for Dolby Vision and then a second Audio HDMI running to my AVR. I have not had any audio dropouts or any issues at all using the Switch through the Oppo but again it isn't a 4K device. If I have time later I will try my Shield in place of the Switch and report back.
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Thanks. That's EXACTLY the kind of input I'm looking for.

*IF* it works, I could upgrade my AVR (to one that DOESN'T support Dolby Vision) for better Audessey cal, WPC, etc, AND get this OPPO for physical media playback for not much more than it would cost to just get an AVR with the audessey + WPC I want plus Dolby Vision support... it really would be a great avenue to pursue, IMO.

But like you said, if and only if this feature works well....
Dolby Vision support is coming to the Denon 2016/2017 receivers. Confirmed straight from the horses mouth. I picked up the Denon x3300 for less than half price at a deal at frys. Those deals seem to come up from time to time.
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Dolby Vision support is coming to the Denon 2016/2017 receivers. Confirmed straight from the horses mouth. I picked up the Denon x3300 for less than half price at a deal at frys. Those deals seem to come up from time to time.
Yup and The X4300 can be had for under 800.00 currently.

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Dolby Vision support is coming to the Denon 2016/2017 receivers. Confirmed straight from the horses mouth. I picked up the Denon x3300 for less than half price at a deal at frys. Those deals seem to come up from time to time.
Yea that's something else I've considered. The TV I bought doesn't have DV, Sony simply (officially, fwiw) promised that it's coming.

My preferred streamer of choice, Shield, doesn't have DV... I don't think NVidia has ever promised it, officially, although there's lots of speculation (particularly on this forum) that it could/would...

I could just pull the trigger on the a discounted x3300 or x4300 today, and have an HDR10 AVR today (to go along with my HDR10 Shield and HDR10 Sony 940E)... with DV hopefully/perspectively coming to all 3 links in the chain later.
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Yup and The X4300 can be had for under 800.00 currently.
Wow. Great tip!

I just scored $430 in BB Rewards by opening a rewards card and getting 10% when I bought my 940E... The $1050 list price had me himming and hawing a little bit, but I'll try to have them price-match $800 and upgrade for $370... would be sweet.
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Wow. Great tip!

I just scored $430 in BB Rewards by opening a rewards card and getting 10% when I bought my 940E... The $1050 list price had me himming and hawing a little bit, but I'll try to have them price-match $800 and upgrade for $370... would be sweet.
I know for a fact they price match with Crutchfield so check there.

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Guys, I'm not a Mod, but just as a reminder since I see this all the time in other threads, don't discuss pricing here or posts may be deleted.

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Good point. I forget that rule sometimes but does it apply to advertised prices?

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I did at one time have my Shield installed in the 203's HDMI Input after I installed the beta firmware which allows for HDR through this input. I've been having handshaking issues between the Shield and the 203 and just did not have time to troubleshoot the issue, but HDR does work. Others found within the 203 Thread have had success with this set up.
Me too, the last time I checked the Shield while connected to the Oppo 203, I just got a screen with garbled video so I went to another device to watch. I haven't tried since and I'm thinking of switching over to the Roku Ultra to connect to the Oppo to see what I find there?

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Me too, the last time I checked the Shield while connected to the Oppo 203, I just got a screen with garbled video so I went to another device to watch. I haven't tried since and I'm thinking of switching over to the Roku Ultra to connect to the Oppo to see what I find there?
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I use my Nintendo Switch through my Oppo 203. Different situation because it isn't a 4k device but I am out of ports on my AVR and the Switch only outputs 5.1 PCM so my LG only passes through 2.0 PCM. I have my Oppo connected directly to my LG for Dolby Vision and then a second Audio HDMI running to my AVR. I have not had any audio dropouts or any issues at all using the Switch through the Oppo but again it isn't a 4K device. If I have time later I will try my Shield in place of the Switch and report back.
Hey just wanted to circle back and share a youtube video I just came across:

If you skip ahead to the 4:30 mark, that guy puts his NVidia Shield through the Oppo for the last couple minutes of that video. Shows it boot up. Navigates the menu. Gets into the 4K UHD section of the netflix app and fires one of those up. Looks like it works really well.

..... I am *very* intrigued by this right now.
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Wow. Great tip!

I just scored $430 in BB Rewards by opening a rewards card and getting 10% when I bought my 940E... The $1050 list price had me himming and hawing a little bit, but I'll try to have them price-match $800 and upgrade for $370... would be sweet.
My x3300 was $470 at frys.

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Hooking up to older equipment

I asked over in the Oppo 103 section, but thought maybe I should have here.

What is the best way to hook up a Shield to my system (see sig)? The 2095 has no HDMI. Currently the 103 and 2095 are hooked up by optical.

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I asked over in the Oppo 103 section, but thought maybe I should have here.

What is the best way to hook up a Shield to my system (see sig)? The 2095 has no HDMI. Currently the 103 and 2095 are hooked up by optical.

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The HDMI inputs on the Oppo and TV are both limited to 1080p resolution and your receiver has no HDMI inputs/outputs. I don't see any advantage to connecting the Shield through the Oppo. This is my recommendation:
1. Connect the Shield directly to the TV via HDMI.
2. The Shield will auto-detect recommended settings for resolution and color space from your TV.
3. Connect the TV to the receiver via optical.
4. Change the digital audio output setting on the TV to whatever sounds the best (bitstream?).
5. The TV will pass-through the audio from the Shield and Oppo to your receiver.
6. Select the optical input for the receiver and select the source HDMI input (Oppo or Shield) for the TV.

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Hey just wanted to circle back and share a youtube video I just came across: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9-sdZQQTXg

If you skip ahead to the 4:30 mark, that guy puts his NVidia Shield through the Oppo for the last couple minutes of that video. Shows it boot up. Navigates the menu. Gets into the 4K UHD section of the netflix app and fires one of those up. Looks like it works really well.

..... I am *very* intrigued by this right now.
That video is before the oppo beta firmware which allowed hdr through the hdmi input.Hooked my shield to the oppo looked washed out since its a beta it still needs some work.
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That video is before the oppo beta firmware which allowed hdr through the hdmi input.Hooked my shield to the oppo looked washed out since its a beta it still needs some work.
Thanks. Really appreciate the input, from you, groove, everyone. I guess their really is no substitute for a new Denon...
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Just bought a FLIRC USB so I can use my Harmony 650 with my Shield. Can anyone tell me how to set up. When I add device to Harmony I can select Flirc as a Manufacturer but don't know what at put as the Device Model No.

Edit: Ok I managed to work it out!

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Just bought a FLIRC USB so I can use my Harmony 650 with my Shield. Can anyone tell me how to set up. When I add device to Harmony I can select Flirc as a Manufacturer but don't know what at put as the Device Model No.

Edit: Ok I managed to work it out!
I just bought a Shield and Flirc as well. I have the Harmony Ultimate One Can you tell me how you set it up?

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I just bought a Shield and Flirc as well. I have the Harmony Ultimate One Can you tell me how you set it up?
I use a Harmony 700 with my Flirc and Shield. See the attachment for programming instructions.
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I use a Harmony 700 with my Flirc and Shield. See the attachment for programming instructions.
Thats awesome. Thanks a lot! Excited to start using the Shield when it arrives next week.

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