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post #1 of 11 Old 01-22-2017, 12:32 PM - Thread Starter
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Android box recommend

So my Boxee Box long ago stopped working to stream content from my W7 PC network and my WD player is on its last legs, so I purchased an Android box that was highly recommended. Well, its pretty buggy

The U1 from Minix: http://minix.com.hk/en/products/neo-u1

was my first attempt at getting into Kodi. I purchased the U1 with the matching remote.
I like the apps and the UI that comes with the box, they have their own version of XBMC that seemed more stable on the U1 than my attempts at playing with Kodi.

I set the unit up through the Ethernet port on my 50/50 fiber line and went to the Google store and DL'd Kodi 16.1. I then installed a couple builds. I really enjoyed the experience. Unfortunately the U1 started misbehaving. I would open Kodi and it would appear for a second and then the screen would revert to the "all apps" screen. I would click on Kodi and it would open for a sec, then back to "all apps" over and over and over until for whatever reason it would finally stay. I cleared cache (I seem to spend more time clearing cache than watching content) and rebooted but the behavior never improved. Someone on the Minix forum told me to just forget Kodi, do a factory reset (which is kind of like the advice of "unplug it and plug it back in) and use the custom Minix XBMC that was provided on the box. I did exactly that.

I played with the provided custom Minix XBMC but had a hard time getting it to recognize my Windows 7 home network.
Now, a little background on the W7 PC network issue….I know its difficult to work with. I purchased a WD player several years ago, one of the first generation, and it would not work with my W7 network at all. I spent probably 80 hours troubleshooting (I became something of a network specialist) and never could get it to work. Fast forward to their third generation player and it worked flawlessly, never a snag. Which brought me to the conclusion that a player could in fact be designed to actually work reliably with a W7 network.
So, anyways I tried to point the U1 at my network and add it as a source. Without going on and on, let me just say that it was a pain. The add source methodolgy just wouldnt see my SMB network, until one time on my twentieth attempt it did, for whatever reason. So finally it loaded the info and scraped the content.

Playback is not a smooth as I would have hoped. Audio/video sync issues and freezes among other things. I would be watching a movie and pause it and when I came back it would start this odd behavior of having the audio drop out every 15 seconds or so for about a second. Very annoying.

There are several other bugs as well, but basically I consider this thing to be too buggy.

I have an admittedly older W7 PC on a home Gigabit network with a 50/50 fiber line. Is there a bullet proof Android box that will reliably work with my network, play everything I throw at it reliably and allow a fully functional Kodi experience? I am sending the U1 back and need a reliable player. Until this point the Boxee Box and then the WD player was all I needed, now with those being obsolete I need a reliable player.
Help!
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Android box recommend

Since you didn't list a price, I would probably say the Nvidia Shield. Personally I own a wetek hub. There are some nit picks for sure, but overall I'm happy with the wetek and it's replaced my A400 permanently. Your biggest issue will probably be how you are serving files to the device. I went with a NAS that serves anything on my network.


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Well, I looked at the Nvidia Shield but Amazon showed them as discontinued and I couldnt find them anywhere else. I see they are back on Amazon. Must have been a Christmas thing.

As far as my network and players goes, the Boxee and the 3rd generation WD played content just fine. I think I might have been too early an adopter of the Android box as I think they are still too buggy, just as the early version of the WD player was.

P.S. I spent $140 for the Minix U1 Android box with remote. Money really isnt an object for a box that actually works.

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There was a new Shield announced at CES I think. So many may be holding out for that now. The official kodi forums have a great breakdown of recommended hardware.


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Minix makes crap, like others said Nvidia shield is the way to go!
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If you dont mind spending $200 then Nvidia is apparently the one to buy. I am using the one that is officially supported by Google Store and its fine for what I do(sold at WalMart). which is SPMC (KODI fork) and Netflix.

I had tried some cheap $40 boxes and another $70 box and both of them sucked to the point I sent them back. I believe actual Android TV OS is better than the cell phone Android that is used on most of the chinese boxes but the one they sell at Walmart.

Honestly though every box I have seen that gets good revues has someone that is not happy and is waiting for firmware updates of something or another.

The Nvidia shield is probably you best bet if you have some serious streaming to do.

The Minix box you bought was supposed to be good but at that price you are so close the Shield is a no brainer
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The Shield was just $175 at BB with Visa Checkout, and someone had posted an add-on coupon for another $10 off which made it $165. Just watch and/or wait and you'll find it cheaper than $199.

The Nexus Player was as close as I ever saw to the Shield, but it has nowhere near the power, and it chokes on interlace content. But for $50 it wasn't bad for a bedroom or spare room box.
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I own four NVidia Shields, I think they are fantastic boxes, and would be my recommended answer to your OP question.

Speaking more generically, if you're going to be doing data-intensive things like streaming (old outdated compression) MPEG2 live TV streams (cablecard) or bit-for-bit uncompressed Blu Ray RIPs (and you want bit-for-bit Blu Ray PQ and AQ performance), there is no substitute for a hardline ethernet connection. Boxes that don't have an ethernet port are unlikely to perform as rock-solid as boxes (like a Shield) that do. It's not magic; the pipe simply provides a steadier, more readily-available stream of data.

If you're just going to stream Netflix and Youtube (and similar), you can get by without an ethernet port... but I would also argue you don't need to limit yourself to just Android solutions. An awful lot of offerings from Roku, Apple, Amazon, even chromecasts (if you don't care about having a physical remote) will work just fine for Netflix+Youtube streaming...
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I got the Nvidia Shield. Its outstanding. I had no idea how responsive an Android box could be.
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I got the Nvidia Shield. Its outstanding. I had no idea how responsive an Android box could be.
Yes! Welcome to the club!

I think Android sometimes gets a bad rap because, as an operating system, it's cheap (google LITERALLY gives it away, for free), so anyone and everyone can develop and build on it (assuming they have at least enough capital to deal with the "certification labs" for Google Play Store). As a result, a lot of devices that run android are lower end devices with lower end underperforming hardware, that sell at a low-end price point.

But when someone like NVidia comes along and puts some big beefy hardware behind it... it's pretty great!!!
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the best media players around are: shield tv, himedia q pro series, zidoo 2016, zappiti HDR series and minix upcoming U9.

problem is owners of himedia will say it sucks go for another brand as mine has too many bugs...
advantage: has best PQ of any box to date it seems...

problem is owners of shield will say it sucks go for another brand as mine has too many bugs...
advantage: you can do many things aside from multimedia! biggest con seems PQ as many stated is INFERIOR to other boxes (especially colors and blacks!)

problem is owners of zidoo will say it sucks go for another brand as mine has too many bugs...
advantage: price is great especially for X8...con seems to be well...not stable BOX


problem is owners of zappiti will say it sucks go for another brand as mine has too many bugs...
advantage: very stable already and great PQ....con is the price...

is owners of minix will say it sucks go for another brand as mine has too many bugs...
advantage: superb support....con seems to be PQ and Synch issues for many....

get the point ?


i read for hours and hours and hours and that is the truth...only player that everyone is 100% happy with is Mede8er....alas, they teased a 4K player on facebook months ago and never talked about it since...

Panasonic ET60 TV + 5.1 Monitor Audio MASS & 10" Gemini Bk2 subwoofer - Media player: Egreat A5 4K HDR

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