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Egreat A5 & A10 3D/4K HDR w/BD MENU

The eGreat A5 & A10 is the only Andriod hardware that supports BD Menu and 4K HDR, I have been using this device for a month now I really like it.

More in-depth review here https://www.minipcdb.com/articles/Egreat-A5-review

The A5 Details:



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The A10 details.

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I see Vid-On being associated with this device & I cringe. They dishonored the GPL license for Kodi for their own media players, building their own version without sharing their code, as per the agreement, not to mention hundreds of customers (myself included) who bought one of their set tops that had nothing but unfullfilled promises, lousy SW and no fixes.
Looking a bit closer at their marketing pics, I see "XBMC" still prominently displayed.
So they are still supplying unauthorized open source SW for this box and charging money for it.
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Because of their GPL license for Kodi and association with VidOn is really making this good hardware looking bad.
Original Kodi can be downloaded from the play store so you don't have to use the VidOn XBMC.

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VidOn?

No Thanks. Instant deal-breaker right there.
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Great to see a another device with BD menu capabilities like the Solo 4K. I hope more manufacturers will jump on that wagon, too.
But it only has Android lollipop?
Can you elaborate the updated HiVXE 2.0 decoder? Does it offer post/processing? If so, what options are there?
What benefits offer the CFW from the Romanian forum?
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Great to see another device with BD menu capabilities like the Solo 4K. I hope more manufacturers will jump on that wagon, too.
But it only has Android lollipop?
Can you elaborate the updated HiVXE 2.0 decoder? Does it offer post/processing? If so, what options are there?
What benefits offer the CFW from the Romanian forum?
But it only has Android lollipop?------Egreat A5/A10 are based on Android 5, Future update will be available for Android 7
Can you elaborate the updated HiVXE 2.0 decoder? Does it offer post/processing? If so, what options are there? ----A Little more details on this one , I am not quite familiar with it.
What benefits offer the CFW from the Romanian forum? ---- It just some enthusiast who wrote CFW version.

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surprised that these egreat are not loved here, aside from that vidon CRAP, this box from what i read is the best media player out there.

@Movie78 : do you think there will be any new vidon update or will buyers get stuck with "jarvis version" ? i emailed tyhem a few days ago...and no answer

i also have a silly Q: is the difference on this player really noticeable between a 1080p and a REAL 4k HDR HEVC 10 bits sample ?
in your case dunno, as your TV is not good enough for HDR (ips panel, reviews etc...)

ps: btw does thie egreat play hi10p files (anime) ? no other player can, as this format isn't even official

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surprised that these egreat are not loved here...
In the past, Egreat has been a blatant clone manufacturer- directly ripping off the hardware/software designs of other companies with no respect for IP or license holder rights.
Back in the day- they cloned the PopcornHour hardware, stole their firmware and rebadged it as their own. You could even cross flash FW between the two brands because the Egrate hardware matched the PCH products so closely.

They also offer zero real support after the sale, so many just prefer to not get involved with Egrate products.

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i understand...i am in a bit of dilemma here; himedia Q pro has disappointing software and very slow updated;
minix has very good software support but amlogic s912 is not as good it seems for PQ as this hisilicon chip...plus U9 still has bugs too..
egreat for these new generations have been very active of their forums and...offered many FW updates that corrected many things....so they seem the best for now

TOO bad mede8er never released the promised 4k versions....

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surprised that these egreat are not loved here, aside from that vidon CRAP, this box from what i read is the best media player out there.

@Movie78 : do you think there will be any new vidon update or will buyers get stuck with "jarvis version" ? i emailed tyhem a few days ago...and no answer Not sure, but the function that I am using for works well for now.

i also have a silly Q: is the difference on this player really noticeable between a 1080p and a REAL 4k HDR HEVC 10 bits sample ? 4K looks much better than 1080p, the only issue I have is, some HDR doesn't play well.
in your case dunno, as your TV is not good enough for HDR (ips panel, reviews etc...)

ps: btw does thie egreat play hi10p files (anime) ? no other player can, as this format isn't even official
I haven't tested Hi10p file yet, do you where i can find any samples?

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In the past, Egreat has been a blatant clone manufacturer- directly ripping off the hardware/software designs of other companies with no respect for IP or license holder rights.
Back in the day- they cloned the PopcornHour hardware, stole their firmware and rebadged it as their own. You could even cross flash FW between the two brands because the Egrate hardware matched the PCH products so closely.

They also offer zero real support after the sale, so many just prefer to not get involved with Egrate products.
Every major manufacturer in the Media have their own forum and are releasing constant update base on user issue.
I have a few Media players and I tell you that the Egreat A5/A10 is not a bad player.

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sample for hi10p are all over the place just look for manga will send you one in private when i have time...
4k is much better than 1080p, good ! but from reviews...1080p is also great and as good as original bluray !

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did the samples work ?!

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did the samples work ?!
Not good, playback is pixelated, I am going to forward the issue to Egreat.

Will let you know once its resolved.

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@Movie78 : seems only x86 chips can read those as they need powerful cpu/gpu

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unexpected issue...for now

just got my A5
will update in a few days

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ok...i need a hand here (despite my knowledge lol!) from testing it seems to me PQ is bad! yes that is impossible as the soc offers the best.
anyway i tested SD = BAD, tested 720p = looks like SD...and tested 1080p = looks normally good.

all tests done on egreat player (not VIDON and its complex settings...)

did not do a/b comparaison vs my med8er, but from what i recall those file were VERY GOOD quality on my old device

as my TV is only 1080p (for now) PQ settings in egreat were:

- 1080p60

- frequency switch: on

- hdr mode: SDR

- color: rgb : 8 bits


Should i do something else ?!

edit may 2th 2017: changed settings to 4.4.4.4 8 bits yrc not rgb. and even changed tv... All is fine now. PQ is great

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What are about Dolby Vision support?
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@UdoG everything has been already said on the subject here ! http://en.egreatworld.com/comunity/i...n-license.409/

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I haven't tested Hi10p file yet, do you where i can find any samples?
Don't waste your time and money (opps-looks like you already did)-this thing doesn't have the horsepower to run h264 hi10 encoded anime. I had a Himedia Q10 Pro which has the same exact soc-no go. Had to get an Nvidia Shield TV which runs almost any hi10 file. Four A53 cores do not equal four A57 cores.
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hi10 is not at all my priority....i really don't even understand why anime encoders use it instead of HEVC !!!
so aside from a PC/mini PC intel or AMD...the tegra X1/Shield is the ONLY box on the planet that can run Hi10p ?

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to all people interested in this device; i will be posting more info as i get them quickly, as i am in direct contact with egreat admins now.
here is the latest BETA update log for A10 and A5:



FW 1.2.0.0 + 2.0.6 Beta

Posterwall: New version Posterwall 2.0 updated added a lot of new features
Posterwall: Added cross storage library function
Posterwall: Support subfolders to join the library
Posterwall: The poster wall and File Browser Integration
Posterwall: Added favorite function
Posterwall: Added film suit editing function
Posterwall: Added file delete function in the file list

Player: Exclusive support 4K UHD blu-ray main movie playback
Player: Added multichannel LPCM audiotrack RAW passthough
Player: Fixed the problem that online app could not play after playing HDR video
Player: Subtitles time offset deviation set to +-200 seconds
Player: Always display 3D options when playing

Settings: Added LED panel brightness adjustment(for A10)
Settings: Added six background pictures
Settings: Added acceptable beta version update function
Settings: Added TRANSMISSION function switch in the general menu
Settings: Optimized "UHD" will be changed to "4K UHD" in the resolution menu

System: Built-in TRANSMISSION download tools
System: Volume adjustment level added to 100
System: Optimized of system parameters
System: Eliminate redundant built-in applications
System: Fixed the problem that the player assistant is a chinese language
System: Fixed the problem that the third-party app display some chinese

As of may 11th 2017 UHD menu is available in beta!

Since the release of these boxes...support has been very GOOD and they actually listen to all comments and feedback

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UHD BD menu sounds very interesting. DVDfab just added support for this.
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just to let people know, that despite it STABILITY (0 problems for the vast majority of owners); there are many small things that need to be updated in the NEXT 9-12 months; SEE BELOW - i will try to keep up as much as possible, gathering info all around forums -

As of 13/05/17 here are all found Issues by members:

1- better music player (enhanced sound quality maybe..) (ongoing)
2- Fix HDR aspect ratio bug (biggest issue, and latest news are that hisilicon are going to release a fix mid may 2017?)
3- late 2017 nougat update when new sdk will be stable (finally youtube in 4k hdr)
4- fix "sharpness" bug in imprex engine 2.0, as this setting, does nothing; dunno if hisilicon will ever fix that "problem"
5- fix CEC function (ongoing but no date, as this seems complicated...)
6 - ADD dolby vision hopefully as SOC seems capable (Egreat said that if Dolby released the promised software update...they will be one of the first players to use it - but i think NOUGAT OS is needed for DV support as google optimized HDR for android 7.1.)
7- Hybrid Log Gama update - if technically possible by hisilicon - various 2016/2017 Tv's or AVR will get an update whiteout even being hdmi 2.1 devices...so maybe we might get lucky !
8- switch to a specific time of the movie with the RC: while watching the movie pressing 5 would forward to 50% of the movie, pressing 1 would forward at 10% etc... (workaround is Press "menu", "Select time" so this might no be implemented by egreat)
9- LPCM "issue" to make it possible to play 24-bit @96Hz @192kHz (like nvidia shield) - seems only achievable running NOUGAT OS so we will have to be patient
10- 12 Bit deep color support (could be useful with some tv to fight banding); one more, this option...might need Android 7 update.
11- updated version of vidon xbmc (based on v17/v18 kodi) is needed...and many enhancements have been done since jarvis...and competitors like Zidoo and Minix have their own kodi forks!
12- fix audio bitrate not showing when displaying info during video
13- bitsream support for DVD-AUDIO, SACD, DFF, DSF (planed in a few months)
14- STEREO 2CH PCM converts to 48 kHz.
15- enable users to use any kind of launchers: as it can be done with himedia devices (will install a fake a android tv finally)
16- bug related to bluray Region settings: various users confirmed they can't play iso BD because of error message related to their region !
17- impress menu settings during video playback in vidon without needing the patch. This is doable from egreat if he did it !
18- fix bug in VIDON that audio passthrough settings are not memorized upon reboot;
19- settings resolution bug: YcbCr420 10Bit reverts back to YcbCr420 8Bit !
20- 3d iso bug: various 3d iso display a grey line on the left during the movie! Users confirmed it is another SOC bug! Egreat will investigate..but hisilicon will be the one that needs to fix about this!

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if any of you want to report bugs...fell free, i will add them on that list...!ALSO a lot of people are buying these devices for a lot of money when they can be had for a good price at futeko.com (got my A5 for 180 USD!)

@Movie78 if you want you can put all these points above of the first OP...as it will make it much clearer to newcomers....

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Yeah-just like the Q10 Pro was going for over $300 for the first couple of months when it was released last year.........!!
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ok news!

Full bluray Menu are now fully functional for UHD Rips ! no major bugs...have not tested this as my DL speeds are slow; but here is the link to install manuall; still in beta however, so it will get better

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Today I received my A10 and I have done some tests. Unfortunately I have an issue with the ISO playback via HDD: if I start a movie I got the following error (although I set Region B): "Mismatch between disc and player region codes. See disc packaging for details". I got the same error, if I change the Region to A / B / C.

Any idea?

Furthermore it seems that the A10 don't recognize, if a HDR movie was stopped. Because the HDR modus was still active after playing a HDR sample.
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yes true...that could be a potential big issue...although my 2 iso movies were fine...

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I checked the disc - strange because the blu-ray is region free!

Another question - in which way can I change the language of the movie wall? I would like to have German description etc.

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It seems that the upscaling ist not so good as expected. If I set the output to 4K60p, I will get a stunning 4K movie picture and the menu looks pretty. Unfortunately 1080p movie's are more softer than in 1080p60 output.
If I change the output to 1080p60 I will get a sharp picture, unfortunately it will play UHD movies in 1080p60 too...

Is there any way to optimize the 1080p movies in 4K60p output?

BTW - blu-ray menu for real UHD works great.

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