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post #91 of 1967 Old 01-03-2006, 06:56 AM
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Hi drew138,

I'm using a cheapo LAN Drive which could only support FAT32.



I ripped Fleetwood Mac's Rumours into 320K MP3 onto LAN Drive and play it via coaxial cable connected M5000 with Onkyo SR700. Audio Playback is very smooth and sound is quite acceptable.

I would try using WAV file to see any different on sound quality.
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Hi Drew,

I would like to simulate playback on .iso file from my WinXP. Do you know which media player is able to play .iso directly ?
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According to my testing, playing WAV is as smooth as playing 320K MP3.

But I don't think there is any improvement using WAV files since I can't hear any different between MP3 and WAV file. May be it is just me !!
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You could also try opening up sharing on your windows box and using the TViX to stream it across instead of the cheapo lan HD that you got. Is your windows boxes HD's formatted in NTFS?

If that doesn't provide smooth playback I guess I'll remove TViX from possible choice and see what comes out from CES this week.

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Hi Drew,

I would like to simulate playback on .iso file from my WinXP. Do you know which media player is able to play .iso directly ?


VLC media player will play iso files directly.
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Hi Drew,

I would like to simulate playback on .iso file from my WinXP. Do you know which media player is able to play .iso directly ?


EWONG, there is no need to playback the ISO on your XP PC since it will definelty work. If you really want to try it you can download dameon tools which will allow you to mount a ISO file as if it was a DVD Drive.

You should try to do what Mike suggested a few posts above. Open up a shared folder on your PC and place the ISO file in that share. You should be able to navigate the M5000 to the shared folder on the XP PC. I bet you will see much better performance on streaming from the PC than from the LAN drive.

Keep up the good work. I'm very interested.

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Thanks Ewong for testing that. I have read that in a lot of these NAS solutions that the bottleneck is the NAS and that it may not fully support the 100MB/s throughput.
If anyone else out there has a higher end NAS and can try it. Please let us know the results. Personally, I want to just throw a NAS in my network closset and let the TViX pull all the movies and musck from there.

On a side note, how does the music player on the TViX rate? Is it as robust? Can it read the id3 tags, search, etc?
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Since the LAN Drive provide dual connection (LAN / USB2.0), I will try to connect M-5000U with USB 2.0 for ISO Streaming. I plan to put both unit side by side so distance is no a problem in my case.

You may be right that such cheapo LAN Drive may be possibility one of the bottleneck.

What do you think about this NAS gear (Thecus YES Box N2100) ?



http://www.thecus.com/products_over.php?cid=1&pid=1#
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Just a dumb question before I go and buy this thing today. Can you browse the TVIX HDD from your local PC over network? So you never need to move it to fill up with new files?
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No. You can't do this.

If I can browse Tvix HDD via LAN connection then I don't need an NAS anymore.

You could only able to browse Tivx Internal HDD via USB 2.0 Connection.
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Does it play .mov files? Thanks.
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Sorry again. No !!

It can't play mov !!
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Would a USB to Ethernet adapter work?
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Why do you need a USB to Ethernet Adapter ?

It already come with Ethernet Port / 2 x USB 2.0 Host / USB 2.0 Client.

Good news on using USB 2.0 Host Port to connect LAN Drive. All movie clip and iso file now playback smoothly.

Here's my configuration.


PC<---LAN---Wireless Router<---LAN--->LAN Drive<---USB--->M5000<--DVI->Plasma
NB<-WLAN--/
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Can I connect the USB host to a USB hub then add multiple USB hd's?

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I don't have USB Hub for testing.

As I read the manual, it could only allow you to connect two USB Port to USB hard disk directly.

If you need more storage, I guess you could use a USB RAID-0 Hard Case which allow you to install Multiple HDD as one Raid-0 hard disk.
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Good news on using USB 2.0 Host Port to connect LAN Drive. All movie clip and iso file now playback smoothly.

Here's my configuration.


PC<---LAN---Wireless Router<---LAN--->LAN Drive<---USB--->M5000<--DVI->Plasma
NB<-WLAN--/

Interesting but doesn't really answer the question about lan playback. Have you thought about setting up your pc with the share and connecting the tvix device directly to your pc via a hub or switch. Forget about usb, not practical in my opinion since most people would be having the tvix device by their tv and the nas in some other room in the house. Connecting it directly to your pc using your pc's network card and the ethernet connection on the tvix device would solve the question about the nas you chose being too slow or not.

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Ewong, do you have any new informations about the DVI-HDMI Problem ???? I read the M-5000U manual and there is written that DVI-HDMI works.
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Ewong is posting on another forum I watch and he posted this link to another media player....

http://www.pixelmagicsystems.com/pr...hd_mediabox.htm

Very interesting. Maybe a new thread comming.

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Ewong is posting on another forum I watch and he posted this link to another media player....

http://www.pixelmagicsystems.com/pr...hd_mediabox.htm

Very interesting. Maybe a new thread comming.

Drew

It's already here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=626044
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ewong,
Is the DVI problem related to EDID? thx.
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No idea. But, M5000U now seems OK when connecting Samsung Plasma via DVI at 1080i.

I ripped a DVD from PC into LAN Drive via LAN Connection, the speed is only 1300KB/s vs 12000KB/S via USB 2.0 Connection.

The 10/100Mbps LAN speed should be able to provide at least 12800KB/s according to calculation, but it's now only provide 1300KB/s which is just about 10Mbps.

Just wonder whether my router or LAN Drive have I/O performance problem.
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Just wonder whether my router or LAN Drive have I/O performance problem.

I would say something is wierd with your router. The LAN Drive device supposedly supports 100Mbps. Anyway to tell if its connected at 10 or 100?

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Is it possible to hook up a dvr to your pc through an ethernet cord to move files to my pc? If so, can someone please help me figure this out? It's driving me CRAZY!
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My experience with LAN and USB drives is that they often fall short on hte performance metric. It would be unsuprising to learn one couldnt sustain over 10 Mbps. I doubt the router is to blame, even the most cheapass of dlinks can usually sustain 10mbps.

I'm very very very sad to hear this unit cannot serve as a NAS itself. I was hoping for an all in one output box for my hard drive- output to tv, music, usb and ethernet. actually i wanted wireless too.

interesting to note though that with usb 2.0 i COULD link it to the Netgear WGT634u I bought and install samba on that. That would actually be pretty damned sweet, plus it would give me badass 802.11g. There's no chance this box has a UPnP control interface by chance? That would be divine..

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Oh, natural question:

Can you play movies off it while at hte same time reading/writing it across the USB2.0? There's a very good chance it might allow only one at a time...
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Hi Myren,

You're right. When hookup M5000 to PC via USB 2.0, the unit is on USB mode and nothing you can do except treat it as an removable hard disk of your PC.

You can't play any movie, the remote stop working either. After unplug the USB cable, you still can use remote to reboot M5000. You can only restart it with Phyiscally on/off the power switch at it's rear panel.

Same case for LAN Drive, when you plug LAN Drive onto USB port of your PC, it will immediately stop NAS mode. However, it can be resume as NAS drive when you unplug the USB cable from PC.
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ewong:

I'm thinking about getting one of these and I would be interested in your feedback since you already own one.

I want to store my DVD's as ISO's on a XP PC (probably 2 to 4 terabytes worth of storge), eventually 400-800 movies. I'd like to use the 5000u at each of my HD TV's to allow access to this collection.



Do you think this unit will do this well? My major concern is that I will have hundreds of movies to stream. I've read it handles ISO's with dvd navigation just fine, has it worked for you?

Also, what do you think about the UI, especially how it would handle that many movies? How would I scroll through such a large list? In addition, is there a way to address each movie individually or can you only get to them by scrolling through a list? What I mean is, if I wanted to use a super remote like a pronto, or a pc to create a fancy index with title art is there a way to access the movies by number? This is something that I think most of these products have not done which means they are really first generation. It's not very user friendly if you can only play movies by looking at file names from a list.

Unfortunatly, XPMCE has a pretty good interface with icons, but I've never been able to get an XPMCE to look good on a TV.

Any input would be appreciated.

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Roveer,

It's a very sad news for you and for me. I have the idea of storing DVD in a centralized storage. Theoretically, M5000 are capable to do this since it can access NAS via LAN connection. On the other hand, M5000 can access DVD ISO Image perfectly, it performs like a standalone DVD player and give you 100% equal operation as DVD Player. More but no less.


However, the I/O performance of M5000 LAN Wire connection is extremely poor. Initially, I thought it was due to the poor performance on my wireless router but it was confirmed that the poor performance should be come from the M5000 LAN Connection.

Tonight, I use a cross-over LAN cable to connect my LAN Drive with M5000 directly (bypass wireless router). The playback of both using DVD ISO File or Video_TS.IFO is still in slow motion and skipping sound.

If you really need to store 400-500 movie and using LAN to access them. The only way to resolve is to convert all of them to Divx/Xvid/WMV format. There is zero problem when playback of these format via LAN Connection.

Regarding the UI interface, it's so simple and very primitive. It just give you a folder/subfolder structure with 10 items (files) on each page. To reach you selection, you have to go page by page or go into each subfolder. No search and no filter option.
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That clinches it for me, I won't look into this device anymore. I look forward to the pixel magic one. Maybe that will work as advertised.

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