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keyser's Avatar keyser 05:06 PM 12-11-2008
My dad has a TVIX, and when I put files on it I just plug usb to usb, easy but can be slow. But I don't understand how do you put files on the PH110?
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eugovector's Avatar eugovector 05:54 PM 12-11-2008
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My dad has a TVIX, and when I put files on it I just plug usb to usb, easy but can be slow. But I don't understand how do you put files on the PH110?

You can play files without installing a hard drive into the popcorn hour via a USB key or other external harddrive, or over wired/wireless (with dongle) networked PC or NAS. If you would like to instal a hard drive in the popcorn hour and install files there, you can:

-FTP the files over a network
-Mount the PH as a networked drive and move using your OS file manager
-Move file from a connect USB device using a series of key presses
-Mount the Popcorn Hour to your PC as a USB hard drive (A-110 only)
-Download Via **********

Did I forget anything?

(apparently B I T T O R 3 n T is a dirty word, despite having many legal uses, but ass-hat and dick-bucket are not)
keyser's Avatar keyser 08:59 AM 12-15-2008
Got it , thanks

One other thing, you can´t sent out 576i/480i via HDMI can you? If I remember correctly HDMI doesn't support those interlaced resolutions, so you'd have to deinterlace(and use what I assume is crappy deinterlacing?) with the popcorn hour/tvix?
gimp's Avatar gimp 12:10 AM 12-16-2008
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Got it , thanks

One other thing, you can´t sent out 576i/480i via HDMI can you? If I remember correctly HDMI doesn't support those interlaced resolutions, so you'd have to deinterlace(and use what I assume is crappy deinterlacing?) with the popcorn hour/tvix?

The PCH definitely does not currently support 480i via HDMI. When I tried to explain in the PCH forum why this would be a worthy addition, a forum moderator went to great lengths to "explain" to me why that isn't necessary since he claimed DVDs are all 480p, which of course is obviously WRONG. Given the level of misunderstanding/denial, it probably won't ever be added. I wonder if it is a hw constraint.
SeeMoreDigital's Avatar SeeMoreDigital 02:10 AM 12-16-2008
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Given the level of misunderstanding/denial, it probably won't ever be added. I wonder if it is a hw constraint.

As far as I'm aware, this over-site has been present with every Sigma chip-set/HDMI combination.

Indeed in Feb 2005 a Sigma representative reported the following, with regard to their EM862x range: -
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The EM8620L chip-set cannot generate the proper output format/timing to support 480i or 576i over HDMI.
Maybe Zensonic can find a HDMI transmitter chip that will accept standard 480i/576i format/timing from the DVD decoder.

It would seem lessons were not learned......
Lord KiRon's Avatar Lord KiRon 03:02 AM 12-16-2008
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It would seem lessons were not learned......

Ha... looks who is talking, "Mr Ziova Admin" , you were so important there protecting them and did they learned their lessen ? did you ?
SeeMoreDigital's Avatar SeeMoreDigital 08:11 AM 12-16-2008
Some people love their conspiracies.....

To confirm. At no time was I ever a Zensonic/Ziova employee. And as such was not informed of any of their business decisions or company policy. In short, I was not instructed to "protect" anything.

I was first invited to test their products and then later to administer their forum. Both of which I enjoyed doing. And would happily to do again for any other A/V company.

The end.
originalsnuffy's Avatar originalsnuffy 08:17 AM 12-16-2008
What do we know about the next generation of Popcorn House units? I think the chip improves; some improvement to the SATA interface.

Any body know more (such as features, price, timing, advantages compared with current range)?
Lord KiRon's Avatar Lord KiRon 08:43 AM 12-16-2008
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I was first invited to test their products and then later to administer their forum. Both of which I enjoyed doing. And would happily to do again for any other A/V company.

No doubt you enjoed it but what I do doubt is that any other company will ask you to do the same , your forum "administration" is in 50% responsible for their poor reputation with customers and their problems.
Lord KiRon's Avatar Lord KiRon 09:24 AM 12-16-2008
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What do we know about the next generation of Popcorn House units? I think the chip improves; some improvement to the SATA interface.

Any body know more (such as features, price, timing, advantages compared with current range)?


One thing for sure - it will not be new chip since Sigma is not ready yet.
SeeMoreDigital's Avatar SeeMoreDigital 09:28 AM 12-16-2008
50% eh? Surely not another one of your conspiracy theories!

On any forum there are forum members who prefer not to follow the forum rules. Most of whom apologise and move on.

Sadly however, there are the odd few who prefer instead to moan, whinge and whine about how they were "so hard done by" on other forums....

Hmm... I wonder which category you fell into!
hcour's Avatar hcour 09:33 AM 12-16-2008
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50% eh? Surely not another one of your conspiracy theories!

On any forum there are forum members who prefer not to follow the forum rules. Most of whom apologise and move on.

Sadly however, there are the odd few who prefer instead to moan, whinge and whine about how they were "so hard done by" on other forums....

Hmm... I wonder which category you fell into!

I've got a question: WTF are you guys talking about? Oh wait, I don't give a shite and neither does anyone else. Take it to PM, thanks so much.
SeeMoreDigital's Avatar SeeMoreDigital 09:47 AM 12-16-2008
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I've got a question: WTF are you guys talking about? Oh wait, I don't give a shite and neither does anyone else. Take it to PM, thanks so much.

Indeed...

After providing some in-site to Gimps question. This is the kind of cr*p I have to put up with

Many congrats on the PCH range by-the-way....
Gary J's Avatar Gary J 10:11 AM 12-16-2008
I'm guessing next for the PH is decoding lossless audio. Better be because the competition as coming out with it.
SeeMoreDigital's Avatar SeeMoreDigital 10:21 AM 12-16-2008
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I'm guessing next for the PH is decoding lossless audio. Better be because the competition as coming out with it.

Which lossless audio formats would you like to see supported?
Gary J's Avatar Gary J 10:26 AM 12-16-2008
TrueHD and DTS-HD MA.
eugovector's Avatar eugovector 11:45 AM 12-16-2008
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TrueHD and DTS-HD MA.

For downsampling to Vanilla DTS or Stereo? Or, do you want the PH to add 7.1 analog outs as well?
bobgpsr's Avatar bobgpsr 11:53 AM 12-16-2008
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Which lossless audio formats would you like to see supported?

It supports 2 channel FLAC now. A bunch of us would like to see 5.1 multichannel FLAC added.

Music lovers would also like to see it get multichannel WMA lossless (MusicGiants) and even Apple lossless so it could play existing high quality purchased music downloads.

It does have HDMI for transport of multichannel audio as linear PCM.
Gary J's Avatar Gary J 12:17 PM 12-16-2008
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For downsampling to Vanilla DTS or Stereo? Or, do you want the PH to add 7.1 analog outs as well?

I want it to decode up to 7.1 PCM over HDMI.
originalsnuffy's Avatar originalsnuffy 01:25 PM 12-16-2008
My current popcorn hour is hooked up to a HDMI receiver and a HDMI monitor on the basement system...so all is goodness.

Upstairs, the main floor receiver has HDMI, but the sony tube xbr monitor is component only.

If I fed a PCM audio signal over HDMI to the receiver; would it convert the video to component? The receiver is a Denon 3806, and has hdmi in but very little audio processing other than pcm on the hdmi.

If Popcorn Hour came up with something like that, and the Denon would support it, a new unit would be very interesting. Right now I have a Dvico 5000 with toslink spdif and component output hooked up to this particular system.
gimp's Avatar gimp 02:33 PM 12-16-2008
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Indeed...

After providing some in-site to Gimps question.

Thank you for that. Didn't mean to make trouble. Who would we lobby for a "source direct" like capability in a 3rd gen PCH?
originalsnuffy's Avatar originalsnuffy 10:03 PM 02-03-2009
I successfully networked this to my new linux based server appliance. Its a D-Link DNS 321; it has 3 terabytes.

Anybody know how to tell it to keep playing all the wav files in a directory? It seems to play one song then stops.

Also, anybody know much about using the unit to play DTS Wav files? I ripped some of my DTS discs to the server; most result in diginoise.

I know on the PC I have to configure the AC3 software to pad the signal as 14 bit. Is there a way to do something similar on the popcorn hour (this is connected via HDMI, but one disc did play so I know it can be done).

The popcorn hour sees my orb connected TV tuner by the way...but so far I can't get it to properly connect (though it sees the channels). Anybody messed with Orb and the Popcorn hour?
gimp's Avatar gimp 03:33 PM 02-04-2009
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I successfully networked this to my new linux based server appliance. Its a D-Link DNS 321; it has 3 terabytes.

Anybody know how to tell it to keep playing all the wav files in a directory? It seems to play one song then stops.

Navigate to the folder of interest and instead of "double clicking" the first wav file in the folder, highlight the first wav file and press "Play".

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Also, anybody know much about using the unit to play DTS Wav files? I ripped some of my DTS discs to the server; most result in diginoise.

I know on the PC I have to configure the AC3 software to pad the signal as 14 bit. Is there a way to do something similar on the popcorn hour (this is connected via HDMI, but one disc did play so I know it can be done).

My PCH is connected via HDMI to my Denon AVP-A1HDCI and I am able to play DTS .wav files ok.

From the wiki:

The files have to have *.wav (not *.dts) extension. Make sure your receiver can decode DTS audio, that PCH is connected to the receiver via a digital (coax or optical) cable, and that you set the PCH Audio Setup options the following way: "Surround=5.1", "DTS=RAW". If you still hear noise, then your PCH "digital volume" (set via the remote) is probably not at its default value - try changing it as the DTS file is playing; once you hit the default level, you should hear the music playing.
originalsnuffy's Avatar originalsnuffy 09:06 AM 02-05-2009
Gimp;

You rock. Many thanks.

Say...anybody know much about using powerline ethernet with hi def files? I finally got my powerline units to work...and they can stream regular video files...but not hi def and not regular dvd format files. Weird; I have some video captures that play ok across the network as the mpg; but won't play when they were converted to dvd format (vob and iso etc.).
gimp's Avatar gimp 12:36 PM 02-05-2009
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Gimp;

You rock. Many thanks.

Say...anybody know much about using powerline ethernet with hi def files? I finally got my powerline units to work...and they can stream regular video files...but not hi def and not regular dvd format files. Weird; I have some video captures that play ok across the network as the mpg; but won't play when they were converted to dvd format (vob and iso etc.).

I have no problem playing iso's. It's all about bandwidth and QoS (quality of service). Your best bet is wired gigabit with cat6. Second would be wireless-N 5GHz (not 2.4). I use Netgear wireless-N 5GHz products and can stream HD reliably.
brentsg's Avatar brentsg 01:08 PM 02-05-2009
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Gimp;

You rock. Many thanks.

Say...anybody know much about using powerline ethernet with hi def files? I finally got my powerline units to work...and they can stream regular video files...but not hi def and not regular dvd format files. Weird; I have some video captures that play ok across the network as the mpg; but won't play when they were converted to dvd format (vob and iso etc.).

Powerline networking is very situational. Depending on how your house is wired, and what outlets you use you can get vastly different performance. There are also devices that seem to introduce noise that affect performance too. In the end it all depends on your house.
originalsnuffy's Avatar originalsnuffy 10:19 AM 02-06-2009
First of all Gimp was right on for two counts. Changing volume from minus 2 to zero caused the DTS to work smoothly.

And using the play button rather than double clicking the title does cause a full playlight to run.

With regard to powerline, I now see that it is very situational. I put the server on the same switch as the popcorn hour, and hi def worked perfectly. With powerline....not so good.

I updated the firmware on my Linksys powerline network. Two of the three units updated just fine. The third bricked. It can't be fixed. And even though I used bonafide linksys software (nothing open sourced), because the unit is out of warranty Linksys said "sorry Charlie". Grumble grumble. Did buy a replacement unit off ebay; with any luck it'll be under warranty (seller said it was but hey we are talking about ebay here!).
originalsnuffy's Avatar originalsnuffy 07:33 AM 05-06-2009
huh?
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