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post #61 of 75 Old 09-22-2008, 04:31 PM
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I believe so. This subtle distinction between unique/repeated frames makes all the difference in the world.
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It's amazing how complex this is.

Do either of you know what the average fall times for CRT and plasma are?
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Hi,

I would like to know the fall time for CRT. CRT motion quality is the holy grail. Thanks guys
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No SAH? 240Hz LCD's will show exactly the same SAH blur as 60Hz or 120Hz ones. It doesn't care for an LCD if you draw one frame of 1/60s or 4 frames of 1/240s, the result is exactly the same. Unless motion interpolation takes place, obviously

SAH is inherent to all LCD's. It's just that 240Hz TV's will be able to do a motion interpolation way much more precise than 120Hz ones, and therefore the result is, may be, more natural looking, and pleasing.

In the same way 120Hz tv's only improve blurring when frame interpolation is active, 240Hz tvs, or even 2400Hz tvs will/would need motion interpolation algorithms to reduce SAH blur.

If you double the processing per second aren't you going to increase gaming lag?
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Hey fellas i know i'm preaching to the choir, but i made a couple videos explaining exactly what we've been talking about. If anybody knows a good ftp site to upload them to you would find them interesting, because they surprised me a little. The vids are ~ 23mb (x2)

I've heard Crt rise + fall times ranging from microseconds to just under a millisecond. I think it depends on the particular grade of phosphors used.
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Hey fellas i know i'm preaching to the choir, but i made a couple videos explaining exactly what we've been talking about. If anybody knows a good ftp site to upload them to you would find them interesting, because they surprised me a little. The vids are ~ 23mb (x2)

borf, please do upload. I'm very interested. But I don't know any ftp sites.
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Hey fellas i know i'm preaching to the choir, but i made a couple videos explaining exactly what we've been talking about. If anybody knows a good ftp site to upload them to you would find them interesting, because they surprised me a little. The vids are ~ 23mb (x2)

I've heard Crt rise + fall times ranging from microseconds to just under a millisecond. I think it depends on the particular grade of phosphors used.

I don't know any ftp sites either, you could upload to something like megaupload.com and post the link though.
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I went with Mediafire. Take a look and let me know how the downloading goes!

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I went with Mediafire. Take a look and let me know how the downloading goes!

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It works! Easy to download, easy to play. Thanks!
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Thanks for your specs moreHD. A little ancient, but i didn't expect such problems. Hopefully more vids today (with lower res).
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I think in general people here know that the displays are far more advanced and than source material that we feed even today BD or hdtv is only 8 bit while we have displays that are 10 bit native and higher with the ability to do higher framerates than 24p at 1080 res and we should all lobby for better source material that is native 1080p at 60fps or higher therefore all the band-aid methods utilized by display manufactures today wouldnt complicate and degrade image quility!!!! I bet most of the problems we see today in displays would disappear if we truly had good source material to begin with this is my opinion ( right now we have garbage entering our displays and display manufactures are trying to band-aid it and as I see it this is not going in the direction that I like!!!!) LOTS OF MONEY SPENT ON BAND-AID SOLUTIONS BY MANUFACTURES!!!!
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If you want all those things, then you are an OLED man, dude!


Hang tight, the OLED Saviour is approaching with speed, his mighty footsteps rocking the land, shaking and breaking those nasty LCDs and PDPs!


With perfect blacks his mighty attacks

will roll PDP off its tracks!


And super speed to take the lead

on LCD's market-feed!


Thin is in and OLED wins

nobody thicker could be slicker!


No blur and no fur

on this mighty beast!


All your frames are his trivial games

he juggles them with ease in a microsecond sneeze

while the LCD sleaze does wheeze and PDP's chromatic freeze!

OLED TVs: Technology Advancements Thread

Dude this is brilliant! Do you do Nerdcore?
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Why are you reviving a 5 year old thread? Especially with nothing to add....
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Why are you reviving a 5 year old thread? Especially with nothing to add....
I think search or something else is is broken on the forums. (possibly changing the timestamp on the last post of old topics?) It's been happening for months now, ever since they "upgraded" the forum software. (and promptly broke a ton of other things - I still can't PM people or search properly)
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I will pass this info on to Admins

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