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I'm looking to get a new TV soon, but I'll be on a pretty tight budget. I'd like to stay around $500, but $600 is my max. In the past, I always swore by Plasmas and didn't like LCDs at all. However, I'm not really up to date on how much LED-LCDs have changed the game. Are they pretty much accepted as being the best now, or can a case still be made for Plasmas? What I really liked about plasmas was that they looked more "real", LCD pictures just looked fake to me.

I'm hoping to get a 42", really don't need any bigger than that. Would be willing to go a little smaller if I can get a better quality TV for the size-sacrifice.

One really important thing is I want a TV with as little input lag as possible. I didn't know about input lag before I bought my last Plasma and it was terrible. I read through the input lag guide on this site, and if I'm understanding correctly, if I get a 1080p TV and output my 360 in 1080p, there will be NO lag, correct? If so, all I really need to worry about is my Wii. I'd still like as little lag as possible, but I can always use Game Mode if necessary. I don't plan to hook up any of my older game systems to this TV (like NES/SNES), but if I do, I'll just use Game Mode for those as well.

2-3 HDMI ports will be sufficient. I'd love for it to have a couple component/composite inputs as well.

NOT having touch-activated buttons would be great, or at least having the ability to disable them. I already have to un-plug my 360 after playing it every time or my son will stand there and turn it on and off 100 times, lol.

I guess that's about all of my criteria. Any input would be appreciated, thanks! (I hope I didn't break any forum rules or anything with this post, please let me know if I did )



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Based on what I'm seeing so far, I'm definitely going with Plasma. In most cases, Plasmas seem to be better about input lag than LCDs, even the better LED-lit LCDs. Panasonic Plasmas seem to be some of the best. Also, LED-LCDs only seem to be better about heat, power consumption, size/weight, and brightness (which helps when viewing in a well-lit room). The only one of those I even kind of care about is the brightness, but it's really not that big of a deal. I've never had any issues viewing a plasma in a well-lit room, and we do most of our watching in the evening anyway. So aside from those things, Plasmas are superior in regards to black level, contrast ratio, viewing angle, and motion blur, all of which are important to me. Apparently the better contrast ratios are what make the picture look more realistic, like I mentioned earlier.

So, now I just need to find a good plasma in my price range, hopefully around $500, but $600 max. I would like to get 1080p if possible, but will get 720p if I need to to stay in budget. It needs to have game mode too, but I think most do these days.

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1) Do you think 1080p is important at this size (max 42")? Or will I not even notice a difference?
2) Does anybody have any recommendations or know of any deals?
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I'm finding many 720p TVs with good reviews in my price range but not too many 1080p. Is 1080p even going to make that much of a difference at 42"?
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I don't remember the model number but Wal-mart (yes Wal-mart..) has a $600 package deal on a Vizio 42inch 1080P 3D TV with 4 pairs of glasses 1 Highspeed HDMI cable and a 3D Blu-ray Player... just thought I'd put that out there incase you didn't know....

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I don't remember the model number but Wal-mart (yes Wal-mart..) has a $600 package deal on a Vizio 42inch 1080P 3D TV with 4 pairs of glasses 1 Highspeed HDMI cable and a 3D Blu-ray Player... just thought I'd put that out there incase you didn't know....

Good Hunting My Friend....!-)

Nothing against the pq of Vizio. But, based on numerous posts here on AVS, I would not recommend purchasing any Vizio without an extended warranty.
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Look I'm not a troller or a flamer but I would not recommend something I wouldn't buy myself, and as for PQ, the demo I saw in store rivals the lg I have(47LW5600),so much so I thought about getting it for my son(but a 42" 3D tv is overkill for a 4yr. old)...
Oh yeah and as far as quality of tv or hardware you know the same thing you claim about vizio used to be said about LG, so all brands have had their problems...
not to mention the fact that Vizio's panels are made by LG...
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Look I'm not a troller or a flamer but I would not recommend something I wouldn't buy myself, and as for PQ, the demo I saw in store rivals the lg I have,so much so I thought about getting it for my son...
Oh yeah and as far as quality of tv or hardware you know the same thing you claim about vizio used to said about LG, so all brands have had their problems...
not to mention the fact that Vizio's panels are made by LG...

Apparently, you haven't been keeping up with the Vizio threads. There is a big difference between LG and Vizio. LG actually manufactures TV's, semiconductors, washers, refrigerators, etc. Vizio only sells TV's and now will be doing the same thing with computers. Their TVs are built by a company in Taiwan.

As seen here on AVS, Vizio will not stand for their products once the warranty has expired. Parts are hard to come by for repairing their TVs, although not impossible. My son was impressed by their TV and they have purchased one at Costco. However, on my recommendation they also purchased the extended warranty. All in all, they are now covered for a total of 5 yrs. If the TV is not repairable, they will get a new replacement. The cost of the warranty was a pittance, around $60 bucks or so, total...
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Dude are you serious? Really? Ask Chad at Cleveland Plasma or anyone on most LG threads LG makes the panels for Toshiba, Sony, Vizio, and a few others...
I have never bought a Vizio brand TV but I have had 1 of their Blu-ray players up until I sold and upgraded to the all-in-one unit I have now and I had zero probs with it... I was just making a suggestion based on best bang for the buck, it seems you want to argue quality and necessity of a warranty and bad mouth the only suggestion so far...(which you've made NONE!!!)......

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Based on what I'm seeing so far, I'm definitely going with Plasma. In most cases, Plasmas seem to be better about input lag than LCDs, even the better LED-lit LCDs. Panasonic Plasmas seem to be some of the best. Also, LED-LCDs only seem to be better about heat, power consumption, size/weight, and brightness (which helps when viewing in a well-lit room). The only one of those I even kind of care about is the brightness, but it's really not that big of a deal. I've never had any issues viewing a plasma in a well-lit room, and we do most of our watching in the evening anyway. So aside from those things, Plasmas are superior in regards to black level, contrast ratio, viewing angle, and motion blur, all of which are important to me. Apparently the better contrast ratios are what make the picture look more realistic, like I mentioned earlier.

So, now I just need to find a good plasma in my price range, hopefully around $500, but $600 max. I would like to get 1080p if possible, but will get 720p if I need to to stay in budget. It needs to have game mode too, but I think most do these days.

NEW QUESTIONS:

1) Do you think 1080p is important at this size (max 42")? Or will I not even notice a difference?
2) Does anybody have any recommendations or know of any deals?

Thanks.

P.S. - I'm going to edit the OP with this new information so people don't respond to irrelevant stuff.
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Dude are you serious? Really? Ask Chad at Cleveland Plasma or anyone on most LG threads LG makes the panels for Toshiba, Sony, Vizio, and a few others...
I have never bought a Vizio brand TV but I have had 1 of their Blu-ray players up until I sold and upgraded to the all-in-one unit I have now and I had zero probs with it... I was just making a suggestion based on best bang for the buck, it seems you want to argue quality and necessity of a warranty and bad mouth the only suggestion so far...(which you've made NONE!!!)......

Good Luck and Thank You for Your service to this Country....

Hey, don't get so bent out of shape. I happen to like Vizio, for the price they sell their products. If you read again, what I suggested is for any Vizio new customer to be cautious and obtain a low cost extended warranty. No one here is bad mouthing Vizio, simply stating what is already written on the Vizio owners threads. As I stated, my son (actually, my daughter-in-law) recently purchased a 47" Vizio at Costco and they are very happy with the pq. Yes, they did purchase the extended warranty. Better than go through what some Vizio owners here have gone through as stated here on AVS.

BTW - For the price that one can purchase an extended warranty these days, it makes sense to be protected, especially when purchasing a TV brand like Vizio, Westinghouse, etc. Whether you approve of this or not...I really don't care. It was just a suggestion, anyway! That is all we can do here, suggest...
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Here's the only 3 I've found so far that are even close:

Panasonic TC-P42U2 42" 1080p

Panasonic TC-P42S30 42" 1080p

Panasonic TC-P46X3 46" 720p

The first one would be perfect (TC-P42U2), except being an outlet item makes me nervous. Other than that, it's the perfect size, 1080p, and just within my price range. The only thing I'm not sure about is input lag, I haven't seen any tests on that one.

Does anybody know how much input lag any of these have and/or any problems or reasons I should/shouldn't get any of them? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
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2 things check this thread first: The Official Plasma Input Lag Thread, its here on this forum...
Second Brandsmartusa has the Panasonic TC-P50X3 in your price range for 50 inches and I can personally recommend them as I have purchased several tv's from them over the past 6 years they have a great delivery service and customer service dept. and if you like they also offer great warranty packages which at anytime during coverage you feel you no longer need it they'll refund the remaining portion...
Just to give you an example in Feb. 2010 I bought a LG 50PK550 and around Aug. of 2011 it developed a vertical line on the left that began multiplying, now LG covered the tv for 2 years and I had also purchased a warranty from Brandsmart for two years, both could of tried to give me the run around until the warranty ran out, (Sony certainly tried it before) but didn't...LG wanted to repair it but Brandsmart gave me dollar for dollar upgrade for a new tv valued at the same price I originally paid, so now I have a LED Passive 3D tv for free and I love it....
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