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post #271 of 571 Old 01-13-2014, 12:04 AM
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Sorry, you're right.

They're holding it over the frame. Check hands.
That is the TV she is holding. The OLED TV is attached to a wall-mounted frame. It is possible to rotate the TV out of the Gallery frame - as well as when wall-mounted without the Gallery speakers.
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I am posting my experience with this TV. I am on my second one, Amazon was good enough to offer a replacement. This is my set up and how I wanted to use it. I have it connected to a recently purchased Pioneer elite SC-71 receiver, with high speed hdmi, for a Tivo roamio box, a oppo blue ray, and a apple tv. I am not using any of the video enhancement functions of the receiver.
My main issue is with the Blur / Judder situation, and the Auto Motion Plus settings to deal with this. I sent the first one that I got in early january back because of my dissatisfaction with how it handled this problem. I tried everything I could think of to deal with it. Had several chats, and phone calls to Samsung support. Tried all the hdmi ports on the One Connect for output. Then tried direct connect to the one connect from the 3 sources, then using optical for audio. Even tried component video from the tivo for video. Tried all the different settings in the Auto motion Plus, as well as the, Clear Motion setting, ( which in my opinion is useless ). This happens with all 3 of the sources, at one time or another.

So Amazon took it back, and now Im on the second one, and Im still seeing the same issues. Jerky movements as a actor turns their head or moves, like what would happen when you were watching a movie in a projector and it skipped a couple of frames. The problem is that its NOT consistent. Some programs have a lot of issues, while others have hardly any. I don't see any with sports, or with commercials.
I love the display for its stunning picture, and have no problem with the curve or its frame. I shimmed it up to make the vertical lines of the frame strait, so the distortion that some reviewers mentioned is not there for me.
But for 9K, I don't think I should have to deal with any of this. My last display, a Sharp/Elite LED had none of these issues. I even connected my Apple tv box to it and played a episode of a show from BBC America, that had several movement issues with the oled, and it was clean as could be.
Thanks for reading, any opinions, comments,ect would be greatly appreciated.
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Good2me, I had the same issues with my set. Try this...

Film Mode: 2

Auto Motion Plus: Custom

Blur Reduction: 5
Judder Reduction: 0
Clear Motion: off


There should be noticeable improvement.

Also, someone on another forum reported a problem with stuck pixels on two sets. I would go easy on the TV for a few weeks; keep cell light around 8-9, contrast below 88, brightness under 44.

Hope this helped.

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Pres2play, thanks for your input, I appreciate it. The " clear motion function of this second display is working, so that is what is giving me the best results so far. What would stuck pixels look like? As you know, the clear motion darkens the display, but part of my feelings on this is simply, for 9K, if I cant use it the way I want to, then the hell with it.
Thanks again.
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A stuck pixel would show as a single dot on your panel that is malfunctioning. If you *really* want to look for them, load some color slides on a USB drive and view each one in a slideshow type presentation, mulling over the screen looking for any specks where the color does not match that of the rest of the screen. This will be a faulty subpixel/pixel.
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Pres2play, thanks for your input, I appreciate it. The " clear motion function of this second display is working, so that is what is giving me the best results so far. What would stuck pixels look like? As you know, the clear motion darkens the display, but part of my feelings on this is simply, for 9K, if I cant use it the way I want to, then the hell with it.
Thanks again.

That's the spirit, my friend. I posted some settings earlier in this thread, but there aren't enough owners out there to agree on the best settings, yet -- I got the tip on the judder control from a product review, which worked out well for me. I'll have to sit down this weekend and give clear motion a try.

I've never seen a stuck pixel myself to tell you the truth. I'd imagine the moment you see it, though, you will know what it is and maybe even panic. The Disney Wow disc has a feature called Pixel Flipper to help with stuck pixels. I hope I never have to use it, but it's there if you need it.

Another thing, if you plan to send the video from your Blu-ray player directly to the OLED (and use your AVR for audio), be prepared for a considerable processing delay in the set, causing the video to lag behind the audio. I found the level of the lip-sync can vary from one disc to the next. You can adjust it in the player, but it can become a drag. Still, I prefer this method for optimum picture quality.

Make sure you check out a Blu-ray 3D feature on this set. It's the best 3D! (Get Titanic in 3D. Awesome!)
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A stuck pixel would show as a single dot on your panel that is malfunctioning. If you *really* want to look for them, load some color slides on a USB drive and view each one in a slideshow type presentation, mulling over the screen looking for any specks where the color does not match that of the rest of the screen. This will be a faulty subpixel/pixel.

Does the industry report on the rate of defective pixels found in sets? Is there a standard?
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How is OLED Does it have any burn in
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How is OLED Does it have any burn in

Don't know about the new curved OLED, but there was the LG with bad burn in at Harrod's. The early Sony Vita OLED screens had a few issues before they switched to LCD and some Samsung Galaxy OLED problems as well.
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It is amazing how these where out for a bit, we never actually got ours, and they have vanished. Just a quick look online and they are no where to be found. Must have been some production issues.

I know the LG 55EA9800 is in full flow with some very nice price drops...... LG will offer 2 more 55" units ( one flat and in a frame, one curved and 4K ) for 2014 along with the 77" unit that is 4K .
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I see Samsung's OLED TV in stores.  Here's a few retailers I have been tracking to see if Samsung will lower the price like LG did.  So far some dealers are discounting, but not as low as your great price on LG's OLED TV.  Some stores have LG and Samsung's OLED on display.

 

I saw you posted about LG's 2014 OLED TVs earlier and you left out the 65" 4K both times.  Did LG decide not to make the 65" 4K OLED?

 

Here's a few of the stores that have Samsung OLED TV.

 

 - Crutchfield

 

 - Bjorn's

 

 - Value Electronics

 

 - Best Buy

 

 - PC Richards

 

I'd love to own one of these, but I'm likely sticking with my ZT60 for a while.  Maybe if OLED prices drop or one of the new 4K LED TVs look good and have a decent price I may jump on-board. 

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LG never even announced a 65" OLED, did they?
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Yes LG did show it and announce 5 new OLED TVs for 2014, one is a 65" 4K OLED TV.   Here's the link to the press release and here's a live interview with the director of display products at CES.

 

I guess LG decided not to bring the 65" OLED to market?

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The LG booth is always packed, after you get bumped 900 times it gets annoying, I did not see a 65", but I could have missed it with all the rude people around. The 77" is supposed to go from curved to flat with the push of a button wink.gif

I am not saying Samsung OLED are not for sale anywhere, but it is few and far between. If LG releases all of these units as they are supposed to this coming year, we will have a leader in OLED technology and production.


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The LG booth is always packed, after you get bumped 900 times it gets annoying, I did not see a 65", but I could have missed it with all the rude people around. The 77" is supposed to go from curved to flat with the push of a button wink.gif

I am not saying Samsung OLED are not for sale anywhere, but it is few and far between. If LG releases all of these units as they are supposed to this coming year, we will have a leader in OLED technology and production.






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According to Rogo who was in attendance, there were two 77" LG OLEDs, one at a fixed curve and the other adjustable. The former is the one slated for release. Today is the first I've heard anything specific about a 65". The link above to the PR announcement is broken.
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There was a 65" udhd lg oled shown at ces standing between the 55" 77" udhd oleds cool.gif
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I see Samsung's OLED TV in stores.  Here's a few retailers I have been tracking to see if Samsung will lower the price like LG did.  So far some dealers are discounting, but not as low as your great price on LG's OLED TV.  Some stores have LG and Samsung's OLED on display.

I saw you posted about LG's 2014 OLED TVs earlier and you left out the 65" 4K both times.  Did LG decide not to make the 65" 4K OLED?

Here's a few of the stores that have Samsung OLED TV.

 - Crutchfield

 - Bjorn's

 - Value Electronics

 - Best Buy

 - PC Richards

I'd love to own one of these, but I'm likely sticking with my ZT60 for a while.  Maybe if OLED prices drop or one of the new 4K LED TVs look good and have a decent price I may jump on-board. 

Those Samsung OLEDs are SOOOO nice. I could not stop staring at one at a recent Magnolia store visit. Aside from some insanely large (80"?) Sony 4K LED Display, it was extremely hard to pull my eyes away from the OLED.

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I've ordered a ChromaPure calibration bundle to take my own readings. The lack of a 10-point gamma control is a disappointment, but I'll try all the presets and see what I get.

I read in the calibration thread of this forum, that 2.4 is ideal gamma for sets with absolute black level. I'll try to get as close to 2.22 of course, but just wondering if anyone agrees with this 2.4 gamma.
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The LG booth is always packed, after you get bumped 900 times it gets annoying, I did not see a 65", but I could have missed it with all the rude people around. The 77" is supposed to go from curved to flat with the push of a button wink.gif

 

So I would move it to flat, and throw out the button.  Or superglue the @#$%er.

 

Can anyone actually imaging curving and un-curving their display?  I would get so distracted by a TV not keeping an identical geometry every time I view it.


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As great as my Samsung F8000 LED is, the black level leaves a lot to be desired. I can't wait to get a flat OLED. I can afford the kn55s9c right now but as a 19 year old computer engineering student, it'd be financial suicide rolleyes.gif I guess I'll just have to be patient. I'm so jealous of you kn55s9c owners!
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Flat Samsung OLEDs, if they ever show, may be just as expensive. Stick with the F8000 for a few more years.
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Today is the first I've heard anything specific about a 65". The link above to the PR announcement is broken.

There will be 4 new OLED-TV´s (for US five if you include the Gallery OLED-TV EA8800)

55EB9600 (cheap 1080p-OLED-TV - EU-Price seems to be 5000€)

plus three new UHD-OLED-TV´s:

55EC9700
65EC9700
77EC9800

http://www.lgblog.de/wp-content/uploads/1090909_10151855732593093_1215752013_o.jpg

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-77ec9800/4505-6482_7-35833699.html
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Tumbling like how low have they tumbled
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^Check his sig. $6k looks to be the next price floor to break.
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^Check his sig. $6k looks to be the next price floor to break.

 

....still too weird looking (curved etc.) and too small for me.  If $6000 were for a 65" flat 4K, then >kapow<, we're in a REALLY different world.


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