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Does anyone use their 9800 with their computer? If so, how is the curve when it comes to browsing online? Also, how is the IR? How is the uniformity on an all white screen? Any noticeable colour shifts/patches?

I'm looking for a new TV for my bedroom that I will mainly use for gaming, watching some shows/videos and doing some web browsing which I'll be sitting 8 feet from. I am annoyed at the LCD industry with all the edge-lit BS and I figure I may go for OLED even if it means I'll have to baby my TV which I don't really want to do yet I'd rather baby and have a top image than not babying and deal with clouding.

I just don't like the idea of a curved set (based in theory at least for things I plan to use it for...maybe it isn't bad) and the 8800 doesn't work for me since I can't wall mount.

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Unfortunately, no TV programming connected right now, and my phone cam won't show much of anything.
Thanks for the response, any other Oled owners experiences with World Cup viewing?

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The Frys by me has had an interesting development since I last visited it a couple weeks ago to marvel at this set. At fist I couldn't even find the OLED in the store again since it was no longer in its usual hiding spot. Then I found it in the 'showcase' spot where previously there was a fancy lit up setup and a giant 4K sign. Now its the OLED 'Ultimate TV' spot and we had a little crowd in front of it appreciating it; the new showcase shows off its design aesthetic well too since you can walk around it now and appreciate how superlatively thin this thing is. From talking to the salesman on what changed he said that they've started to see a lot more sales and interest in these so they wanted it front and center.
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They're selling one now. It hasn't been on the market for even a year. link
Weird. I was told by 2 different retailers they've stopped production on these. Considering they've cut the price by 50%, I'd say that might be true.
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Thanks for the response, any other Oled owners experiences with World Cup viewing?
Ive watched a little so far, still has the same detail and color advantages over plasma(or at least my plasma)
i just got my haircut and there were some lcds playing world cup, looked really bad, almost non hd when I was certain it was hd

the green grass seems really green, almost too much using standard setting, i do remember reading that the green was not perfect out of box, but perfect when calibrated

no matter what i watch on this tv, its looks absolutely fantastic
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Ive watched a little so far, still has the same detail and color advantages over plasma(or at least my plasma)
i just got my haircut and there were some lcds playing world cup, looked really bad, almost non hd when I was certain it was hd

the green grass seems really green, almost too much using standard setting, i do remember reading that the green was not perfect out of box, but perfect when calibrated

no matter what i watch on this tv, its looks absolutely fantastic

Thanks. I still have not seen one in person.

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So I can also confirm that the EA9800 is 1999 and the LA9650 is 1099 at my MC. They will be getting more of both.
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Interestingly, Sony had a curved TV for about one year. Thankfully, they abandoned the concept. For whatever reason, this now seems to be a Korean thing.
Yes, Sadly Sony has continued to manufacture sub-par LED 4K sets with banding and flash lighting, Must be a Japanese thing?
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Yes, Sadly Sony has continued to manufacture sub-par LED 4K sets with banding and flash lighting, Must be a Japanese thing?
My my how defensive we've become since we're back in the OLED camp. Sorry Vegas, but that's true. The majority of people commenting on curved screens simply don't like them. Vinnie admits to the drawbacks.

If you can see an advantage to adding linear distortion to a display and making reflections look odd, please enlighten me. There is none...at least if you look at it objectively. Even many of those that bought the high end 9000 series, did so reluctantly only because they wanted the higher end features.

It's no different with OLED. I was looking at the Samsung seriously at one point but ruled out the 9000 series for the above stated reasons.
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Besides, Sony doesn't manufacture anything.
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My my how defensive we've become since we're back in the OLED camp. Sorry Vegas, but that's true. The majority of people commenting on curved screens simply don't like them. Vinnie admits to the drawbacks.

If you can see an advantage to adding linear distortion to a display and making reflections look odd, please enlighten me. There is none...at least if you look at it objectively. Even many of those that bought the high end 9000 series, did so reluctantly only because they wanted the higher end features.

It's no different with OLED. I was looking at the Samsung seriously at one point but ruled out the 9000 series for the above stated reasons.
If you can see an advantage to LED sets with banding, DSE, mediocre black levels and poor off angle viewing, God Bless you. You are Sonys target audience with the 900A and B sets. Even the editor of CNET is currently living with a HU9000 stated while it did not add anything, it was not really noticeable. It is funny how Some will defend the Sony 9X series yet come to this forum and try and ctitize and speak negative of the OLED.

I have actually lived with them all, none are perfect, OLED (even curved) is the closest to perfection.

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If you can see an advantage to LED sets with banding, DSE, mediocre black levels and poor off angle viewing, God Bless you.
Please... You sang the 4k Sony LCD's praises for the few days you owned it. Somehow whatever you say now trumps and negates everything you've previously said and you think no one notice. You have a future in politics.


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I joined the Sony 65900B team today, Sorry, I think the people in the Shootout are wrong. I tried a Samsung 60F8500 plasma, the blacks during the day turned into greys. Then there was a buzzing so investigated and the back of the Plasma was 130 degrees Fahrenheit . OLED are incredible, I have not a bad word to say about them 55" just was not giving me the hometheater experience. Yes I know I have posted some negative about the Sony 4K sets ( some maybe just trying to talk myself out of it) but to me the 900B and 950B are masterpieces of technolgy and design. And if you like something else, like plasma, enjoy I have actually tried them all and am sticking with my 65X900B.
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I do see some clouding but it is acceptable, nothing to lose sleep over. ... The 900B and 950B are the best LCD sets I have ever seen.
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Update, I hooked up my 4k FMP-X1 and loving 4K, Sony is the only way to do 4K.
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I agree OLED is the best accept BAD motion blur on the LG but even after living with OLED for weeks I still think the Sony 65X900B has an excellent picture and much more of a home theater experience than the 55" OLED.
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Please... You sang the 4k Sony LCD's praises for the few days you owned it. Somehow whatever you say now trumps and negates everything you've previously said and you think no one notice. You have a future in politics.
The reason the Sony 9XB is returned is the problems were to great to overcome. Some come here just to put down the OLED which makes no sense. I continue to read more post of me purchasers experiencing the same banding issues with the 9XB as I did.

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Gotta get another oled but I'm in Canada.

Can anyone recommend a place I can use to ship to the US canada border? I'm in Toronto. Micro center doesn't ship to Canada but I'm only an hour away from the border and will drive to pick it up. I could go to Detroit but that's a 4 hour ride....

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Gotta get another oled but I'm in Canada.

Can anyone recommend a place I can use to ship to the US canada border? I'm in Toronto. Micro center doesn't ship to Canada but I'm only an hour away from the border and will drive to pick it up. I could go to Detroit but that's a 4 hour ride....

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A potential savings of several thousand dollars isn't worth an 8 hour round trip? This TV is light and easy to handle. I've driven further for less.

Btw, I'm at best buy and now the TV is way off to the side by itself, almost as though it was a clearance model, but the price is now at 4999. I got one at MC and will decide what to do with it in the next couple of days. I also got the accidental damage/breakage warranty (3 years for 279) in case I end up keeping it (have 15 days to return just that). When I asked BB about price matching Micro Center so I could at least get some points with this and free delivery, I was asked what kind of item, and as soon as I said LG I was told no price matching on LG items, period, end of story. I wonder if @Speakerphile knows anything about that.

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Gotta get another oled but I'm in Canada.

Can anyone recommend a place I can use to ship to the US canada border? I'm in Toronto. Micro center doesn't ship to Canada but I'm only an hour away from the border and will drive to pick it up. I could go to Detroit but that's a 4 hour ride....

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I would make a day out of it and drive to Detroit
Kind of hard to do if you haven't seen the tv though
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I already have one just don't want to pay Canadian prices. Actually found a bunch of places that will hold packages at the border for less then 10.00. Now just gotta call one of these magical microcenters oled clearance stores.
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I already have one just don't want to pay Canadian prices. Actually found a bunch of places that will hold packages at the border for less then 10.00. Now just gotta call one of these magical microcenters oled clearance stores.
And this whole time I didn't know u had one
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I already have one just don't want to pay Canadian prices. Actually found a bunch of places that will hold packages at the border for less then 10.00. Now just gotta call one of these magical microcenters oled clearance stores.
I use cbi,close to the rainbow bridge in Niagara Falls. I see tv boxes in their warehouse quite often when I visit.
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for those who have TV opened, does it say 120/240V 50/60Hz in the back or only 120V/60Hz. it's confusing, the website says 120/240V 50/60Hz, the pdf datasheet states 120V/50-60Hz

Anybody who did a tear down of LG TVs and looked at the power supply? any idea if they use dual voltage or just the 120V

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for those who have TV opened, does it say 120/240V 50/60Hz in the back or only 120V/60Hz. it's confusing, the website says 120/240V 50/60Hz, the pdf datasheet states 120V/50-60Hz

Anybody who did a tear down of LG TVs and looked at the power supply? any idea if they use dual voltage or just the 120V

Thx
I think it's just the 120, thin power cord
Mich thinner than my plasma
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I use cbi,close to the rainbow bridge in Niagara Falls. I see tv boxes in their warehouse quite often when I visit.
Thanks. Cbi was one of my options. No issues?

I was one of the first to get my oled for the amazing price of 6500.00. Need another tv now so for 2000.00 I can't believe it! Lol
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Besides, Sony doesn't manufacture anything.
Well the raw panels, yes.
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I think it's just the 120, thin power cord
Mich thinner than my plasma

Thx for quick answer, any idea if it says 50/60Hz or just 60Hz
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If you can see an advantage to LED sets with banding, DSE, mediocre black levels and poor off angle viewing, God Bless you. You are Sonys target audience with the 900A and B sets.
Would you like me to quote post after post of your delight with the 900B prior to your souring of it? C'mon Vegas, really? This display went from the cat's meow to unwatchable in a few days? Of course these displays have issues, they ALL do. Yes Vegas, as you acknowledged, even OLED.

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Even the editor of CNET is currently living with a HU9000 stated while it did not add anything, it was not really noticeable. It is funny how Some will defend the Sony 9X series yet come to this forum and try and ctitize and speak negative of the OLED.
Well if David K said it was so, then it must be so. If you can't see the issues with linearity on a curved screen, ANY curved screen, then you are the curved screen's 'target audience'. Further, if David can't see it, then he isn't looking hard enough. To me, the linearity issue is obvious with any curved screen, it has to be. I don't fall in, lock step, with everything he says. That's why we have a pair of eyes.

So my criticism has nothing to do with OLED tech. In fact, if you read what I wrote objectively, I levied criticism at BOTH LED & OLED sets for the curves, not their PQ. Oh, and I'm not 'defending' the 9x either. I have no vested interest in anything out there.

However IMO curves do nothing to enhance PQ, but can only detract from it. Linearity is, for some, a long forgotten aspect of PQ. It used to be part of many TV reviews prior to flat panels. It was never an issue with the advent of flat panels, but with the new curved screens, IMO, it is once again an issue.

See the difference?
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I have actually lived with them all, none are perfect, OLED (even curved) is the closest to perfection.
And I'd probably agree with that. However I'd need 4K, a much larger screen and a price lower than that of many cars, to consider it seriously. I'd also need to feel better about IR and burn-in potentials. Hence my presence here. In the end, maybe I go OLED, maybe not. But I won't go OLED simply because it's OLED. I have the criteria previously mentioned.

Anyone that knows me, knows I don't venture into threads for equipment I'm not actually considering.
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Would you like me to quote post after post of your delight with the 900B prior to your souring of it? C'mon Vegas, really? This display went from the cat's meow to unwatchable in a few days? Of course these displays have issues, they ALL do. Yes Vegas, as you acknowledged, even OLED.


Well if David K said it was so, then it must be so. If you can't see the issues with linearity on a curved screen, ANY curved screen, then you are the curved screen's 'target audience'. Further, if David can't see it, then he isn't looking hard enough. To me, the linearity issue is obvious with any curved screen, it has to be. I don't fall in, lock step, with everything he says. That's why we have a pair of eyes.

So my criticism has nothing to do with OLED tech. In fact, if you read what I wrote objectively, I levied criticism at BOTH LED & OLED sets for the curves, not their PQ. Oh, and I'm not 'defending' the 9x either. I have no vested interest in anything out there.

However IMO curves do nothing to enhance PQ, but can only detract from it. Linearity is, for some, a long forgotten aspect of PQ. It used to be part of many TV reviews prior to flat panels. It was never an issue with the advent of flat panels, but with the new curved screens, IMO, it is once again an issue.

See the difference?


And I'd probably agree with that. However I'd need 4K, a much larger screen and a price lower than that of many cars, to consider it seriously. I'd also need to feel better about IR and burn-in potentials. Hence my presence here. In the end, maybe I go OLED, maybe not. But I won't go OLED simply because it's OLED. I have the criteria previously mentioned.

Anyone that knows me, knows I don't venture into threads for equipment I'm not actually considering.
Since you always defend Sony and put down OLED I will share the banding I found on my Sony. Yes OLED has some issue but not this bad. I liked the Sony color, 4K player and size of the 65" screen. What I seemed to find is that Sony has lost their way with the XBR name and has a lack of the quality of panels they use.

My worst gripes were off angle viewing, standing up and your picture was 40% gone and I could not see the screen with losing everything and gaining banding from my computer seat. I do not stay on the x900b site bashing it day and night, many people love their sets and I respect that as I share their love of home theater. I guarantee I can find banding on every single 65x900B, yes all 5 I checked had it. The Shootout where Sony was the absolute worst performer had bad uniformity and poor washed out black levels. Do not be fooled by the Fanboys, the 900B series are nothing when compared to an OLED, plasma or even the Samsung 4k sets. The sound is good, but nothing a mid level sound bar could not duplicate.

My Sony: excellent sound and almost worth keeping. Some banding was visible during content but I did not want to have everyone on the 900B forum going crazy looking for it so I said it was not. I tried to convince myself I liked it because I dreaded returning it, it is large, heavy and I had to pick it up myself to exchange it. I did not want to damage it and be out $5,000. Finally the torture and desire to have OLED picture quality back became to much and I returned it.
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Thanks. Cbi was one of my options. No issues?

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No problems with them, Saturday pick ups are usually busy, I inspect all my stuff before leaving and haven't had any damaged products, but if I were you I would ask them specifically what their policy is regarding damaged tv panels upon pick up, I know they have some kind of replacement insurance, but not sure exactly how it works.
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Just checked ebay and there are close to a dozen of these things sitting out there brand new in the box from various sellers for right at just about 3k, most with free shipping even. So these are certainly not hard to get by any means.
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