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Maybe 65" 4k oled next year when the price is little lower ... and dare i hope for 4k bd will ever come..
Hd tv test reported banding and ir on the 77" that was shown
Anyone have a link to this? First time I've seen a report on banding on the OLEDs and not sure why this would occur with this tech. It doesn't seem like 55" owners are bothered by that.
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Hopfully ny the time i can get one of the 4k 65" the current 55" will be resistance vs ir n i can use it as a gaming tv.
And the 65" set up as a movie tv.
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I don't see a thread for the flat 55EA8800, Any difference with curved 55EA9800? I guess 8800 has the webOS but not the 9800, anybody to confirm?
If somebody owns a 8800, please respond here or by pm

Thank you

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Anyone have a link to this? First time I've seen a report on banding on the OLEDs and not sure why this would occur with this tech. It doesn't seem like 55" owners are bothered by that.
I would think it'd be from the glass coating being cut from two or more sheets.

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For me it'll probably be either the new Full HD OLED, the 55EC9300, or the 65EC9700 4K OLED. (If those sets don't any major problems of course)

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I don't see a thread for the flat 55EA8800, Any difference with curved 55EA9800? I guess 8800 has the webOS but not the 9800, anybody to confirm?
If somebody owns a 8800, please respond here or by pm
You can find a thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-fla...es-2014-a.html
The EA8800 is a 2013 model that was simply released a little bit later in the US, which means that is has the same smart TV OS as the EA9800, so no webOS.
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I've seen a few vertical banding reports on our model (by Coopson, in fact, if my memory serves), but it was related to the grayscale nonuniformity, only showing on such screens. Apparently, HDTVTest was able to sample the 77" demo from CES, which means a likely manufacturing date of no later than December 2013.
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For me it'll probably be either the new Full HD OLED, the 55EC9300, or the 65EC9700 4K OLED. (If those sets don't any major problems of course)


You can find a thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-fla...es-2014-a.html
The EA8800 is a 2013 model that was simply released a little bit later in the US, which means that is has the same smart TV OS as the EA9800, so no webOS.
the TV specs state it runs WebOS unlike 9800
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Maybe 65" 4k oled next year when the price is little lower ... and dare i hope for 4k bd will ever come..
Hd tv test reported banding and ir on the 77" that was shown
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It’s not all perfect though: because the 77in curved 4K OLED television on display was probably the same one shown at IFA 2013 and CES 2014, it was looking the worse for wear. There were some image retention and screen inconsistencies/ distortions as well as a degree of banding, which we’re unsure if they originated from the content or the in-TV processing. This screen was a pre-production unit made some time ago, so it would be very unfair to judge the production models based on what we saw at yesterday’s event. It’s something we’ll be keeping an eye on nevertheless.
It's a little surprising they wouldn't use a newer build, but maybe this points to the fact that the cost will be higher for longer than some have anticipated.

They also confirmed a 30,000-hour lifespan before noticeable degradation (along with less ABL, not that it bothers me on the 55", and less power usage, though it's not clear what the reference point is here):

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We also probed LG for some technical info on its upcoming 4K OLED TVs. Exact details are not finalised yet, but the Automatic Brightness Limiter (ABL) will be a lot less aggressive in the UHD OLED televisions. They will also use less power. We may also need a new way to measure panel life – our source revealed that the screens will remain close to their brand-new state for 30,000 hours. It’s unclear what happens after that but we assume some sort of gradual reduction in performance.

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the TV specs state it runs WebOS unlike 9800
Could you post a source/url? That information can't be true.
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""FULL HD""

This is a term that successful marketing bastardized the true meaning to mislead consumers. I first recall that term back when Samsung was pushing the early DLP rear projection sets about 2004 and it has bugged me ever since. Ironically those sets only had a half resolution chip that employed something lovingly know on AVS as "Bob & Weave" to obtain 1080i.

720P is a full HD resolution
1080I is a full HD resolution
Some would argue that 480P/576P is as well.
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Back to topic. I have only witnessed banding in a few situations. It was on Comcast with a "new" box I got a few weeks before getting the 9800. Most of the time it has been during local commercials. I do have to wonder if its not from the actual content or compression artifacts. I never saw it using my BD player.

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Could you post a source/url? That information can't be true.
amazon description here http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics...words=55ea8800

but apparently it's wrong, I can't find any other place to confirm that
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With the grey scale uniformity so poor at 10 ire I am surprised the banding is not more noticeable. The OLED technology seems to hide it well.
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I haven't seen any banding even once, personally. Good on that front. I wouldn't be surprised on a 77" though.

Three blue subs passed away today. No slides, I saw them on the ps4's solid blue menu. Even though I've generally relegated my dead subs to a non-issue, I still don't like to see them die and think it's weird that they do.

1097 hours on the set. LG placed the 77" at 30k hours? That could come faster than I think....and I'm assuming that's a longer lifespan estimate than gen 1...

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Does anyone know if the North American version of this set work on the PAL system?
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UGH, sorry to hear that. Haven't used the OLED in a while. It may be high time to put some more hours on it. I'm not so sure about these latest 80% yield claims either, specially if we have subpixels dying at 1000+ hours when the yields were likely ~60%.
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Plaque, how many dead subs does that make on this set?
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""FULL HD""

This is a term that successful marketing bastardized the true meaning to mislead consumers. I first recall that term back when Samsung was pushing the early DLP rear projection sets about 2004 and it has bugged me ever since. Ironically those sets only had a half resolution chip that employed something lovingly know on AVS as "Bob & Weave" to obtain 1080i.

720P is a full HD resolution
1080I is a full HD resolution
Some would argue that 480P/576P is as well.
Who would argue that 480P is "full HD" ???????
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Who's this Plaque character to whom I keep seeing references?
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Who's this Plaque character to whom I keep seeing references?
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I haven't seen any banding even once, personally. Good on that front. I wouldn't be surprised on a 77" though.

Three blue subs passed away today. No slides, I saw them on the ps4's solid blue menu. Even though I've generally relegated my dead subs to a non-issue, I still don't like to see them die and think it's weird that they do.

1097 hours on the set. LG placed the 77" at 30k hours? That could come faster than I think....and I'm assuming that's a longer lifespan estimate than gen 1...
This is the most negative thing I have read on this forum and the greatest concern. Did you run slides initially? Can you please run the slides and confirm this finding? I thought I had pixel issues once and it was the feed.

Dying pixels is a major concern as they can start to add up in a cluster and be visible at a certain point.
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Check out flatpanelsHd they have news 4k 65 and 77 six thousand for 65 nineteen thousand for 77 inch coming October.
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Who's this Plaque character to whom I keep seeing references?
That's my doppelganger, don't don't feed him please, Vinnie
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Yes, he ran slides initially (150 hours, with a small break, and then finished with another 200 if I'm not mistaken).
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Check out flatpanelsHd they have news 4k 65 and 77 six thousand for 65 nineteen thousand for 77 inch coming October.
That's for the UK market, priced in Great British Pounds (naturally).
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Yes, he ran slides initially (150 hours, with a small break, and then finished with another 200 if I'm not mistaken).
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That's for the UK market, priced in Great British Pounds (naturally).
Help me out Vinnie in USA money.
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They also confirmed a 30,000-hour lifespan before noticeable degradation (along with less ABL, not that it bothers me on the 55", and less power usage, though it's not clear what the reference point is here):
If true, that removes the longevity issue from the table for the new OLEDs...at least as far as I'm concerned.
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Three blue subs passed away today.
Sorry for your loss. So I wonder if blue is still the problematic issue in LG OLEDs.
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Probably not related since subpixel failure has been seemingly random (blues, reds, greens, and whites have all been reported), though Plague is the most veteran among us now (he leapfrogged my usage...I'm at less than 600 hours in comparison).
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Sorry for your loss. So I wonder if blue is still the problematic issue in LG OLEDs.
Thank you. I'll their loved ones you paid your respects.

Nah, it's totally random. Blue can't be an issue because there's no blue subpixel.

Also yeah they're on the slides with another green since the last time I checked, a long time ago.

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