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Does anyone know if the North American version of this set work on the PAL system?
I do it does not output 50Hz, I tested that using a method that was mentioned by someone over here

"connect tv to laptop via hdmi, right click on desktop, then click screen resolution, then click advanced settings, then graphic card tab or monitor tab, then drop down menu screen refresh rates"

will it work with PAL? yes if you set the STB to 60Hz,There is a thread that I opened here
120V 50-60Hz TV to Europe, is it possible?
Got mixed reviews whether setting STB (cable/sat) to 60Hz will make it work flawlessly, many say there wll be stuttering since source is 50Hz, however Indians in R2I forum report no issues, I even told my brother to set STB (dreambox to 60Hz) and see if the samsung (euro version capable of 50Hz and 60Hz) will show any judder, so far he said no issues that he can tell.

I'm still confused and can't take any decision

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LG curved OLED TV design story...

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Anyone have a link to this? First time I've seen a report on banding on the OLEDs and not sure why this would occur with this tech. It doesn't seem like 55" owners are bothered by that.
Depends on what what you mean by "banding". If you're referring to lack of color gradation, it's been reported in several reviews.

https://translate.google.co.uk/trans...v-ou-55ea970v/
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.p...&id=1388765934
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Visit from Top LG people to Fry's. They told the sales department current OLED lifespan 30,000 b4 noticeable degrading of picture.
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55ec9300 Review

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Review posted on 6/26/14. I wish there was a 65".
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http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...essions-review

Review posted on 6/26/14. I wish there was a 65".
I like that review, sounds tempting.
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http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...essions-review

Review posted on 6/26/14. I wish there was a 65".
it does not need to be any brighter, current model is never dim in my torture living room. The looks are better in the new model and I bet the speakers will be also.
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Not much of a review, more like a first impression.
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D-Nice Break-in Slides

I finally downloaded the slides. I've got 85 hours in two weeks. I must done well in the panel lottery. One red pixel out only. I had two but I think the YouTube Pixel Fix video I ran last weekend revived one bad pixel. I see some red through the gray on the gray slides. My son doesn't see it. The gray scale appears uniform. Will upload photos soon.
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I finally downloaded the slides. I've got 85 hours in two weeks. I must done well in the panel lottery. One red pixel out only. I had two but I think the YouTube Pixel Fix video I ran last weekend revived one bad pixel. I see some red through the gray on the gray slides. My son doesn't see it. The gray scale appears uniform. Will upload photos soon.
I took the slides to Frys and tested a their demo with 3000 hours and another one. The one with 3000 hours (my 1st set) has perfect uniformity. The other one was like mine, no banding in the center and lightly darker edges. I tested the grey scale on a 65HU9000 and it was perfect, the Sony 900B did have some banding.

Those slides on a thumb drive sure come in handy.
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I finally downloaded the slides. I've got 85 hours in two weeks. I must done well in the panel lottery. One red pixel out only. I had two but I think the YouTube Pixel Fix video I ran last weekend revived one bad pixel. I see some red through the gray on the gray slides. My son doesn't see it. The gray scale appears uniform. Will upload photos soon.
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http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...essions-review

Review posted on 6/26/14. I wish there was a 65".
Not really a review, more of a 'first look'.
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Looks like some uniformity issues there with reddish hues mixed in.
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Looks like some uniformity issues there with reddish hues mixed in.
What? It looks pretty amazing to me.

You are seeing those images in the glass as being a reflection of the room in which the TV's sitting, correct?

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Desk, it's hard to say, but what I'm seeing (and it could be room reflections, you'd know better) are reddish hues on the right hand side, lower left and in the upper left.
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Desk, it's hard to say, but what I'm seeing (and it could be room reflections, you'd know better) are reddish hues on the right hand side, lower left and in the upper left.
This can be reduced by adjusting the color it is not visible in content. No comparison to the horrible blooming of the 950B and the banding on the 900B. Find me the perfect TV and if you find it it more than likely will not be on planet earth.

I looked a ZT60 last week and would take a 65X900A over and preferred the picture of the F8500, nobody's eyes see things the same. But one constant theme from all the reviews is OLED is the best performing set. Funny how when I posted horrible banding on my Sony 900B you blamed it on my settings.

Your Sony bias is apparent from a mile away.

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For those of you who do not read reviews here is a taste of what the Pros say, not the fanboys.

Below form Reviewed.com

"It's well-established that OLED TVs offer world-class, arguably unmatched picture quality. True black levels, searingly bright highlights, and rich, vivid colors are all hallmarks of this expensive, futuristic technology. Even though OLED made its debut last year, it still takes my breath away."
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What? It looks pretty amazing to me.

You are seeing those images in the glass as being a reflection of the room in which the TV's sitting, correct?

Desk
Desk, you may be right about the room reflections. I knew I had some since this was taken with the blinds shut at noon. There four three feet wide full length windows in this room facing the east. I should be able to adjust the red out.
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Desk, you may be right about the room reflections. I knew I had some since this was taken with the blinds shut at noon. There four three feet wide full length windows in this room facing the east. I should be able to adjust the red out.
That"a exactly what it looked like to me, mikeg1 - an almost full height window reflected in the left half of the screen, distorted by its curve.

To me, that uniformity looks fantastic. It's crazily good when you consider it in comparison to LCD

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This can be reduced by adjusting the color it is not visible in content. No comparison to the horrible blooming of the 950B and the banding on the 900B. Find me the perfect TV and if you find it it more than likely will not be on planet earth.

I looked a ZT60 last week and would take a 65X900A over and preferred the picture of the F8500, nobody's eyes see things the same. But one constant theme from all the reviews is OLED is the best performing set. Funny how when I posted horrible banding on my Sony 900B you blamed it on my settings.

Your Sony bias is apparent from a mile away.
A 900A over a ZT60? Dat's heresy to we plasma and cinema enthusiasts. Get it in a light controlled room and get back to me.
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A 900A over a ZT60? Dat's heresy to we plasma and cinema enthusiasts. Get it in a light controlled room and get back to me.
That's what I mean, I know the ZT65 will destroy the 900A and you are correct. With my torture chamber for panels because of room brightness, I cannot go with a plasma. I really wanted to go with a f8500 64" Samsung because it looked so close to OLED at night but in the morning the bright room lighting turned the blacks to grey. I was so bummed, I went to bed with a smile and woke up thinking " what was I thinking giving up my OLED"?

This is why no TV is perfect for everyone and I Completely understand someone wanting something bigger than a 55" OLED. When I saw the ZT65 there were big showroom lights on all the screens. I surely would not argue that any LED is better than the ZT60, just not in a lighthouse like my living room.

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Good points...I can't deny I wouldn't mind a little more brightness from the screen during the height of day. It's just one of a number of reasons I'm anxious for that 77" OLED. The ZT60 still pales in comparison to the 9800 at night with the right content.
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Photo of gray scale.
It looks really good, but it's a little light. It becomes uniform the lighter in color it gets, with 5, 10, and 15% being the worst for me.

I may get another new panel before they discontinue these, as per all the luck it seems like all the recent owners are having. Were we just unlucky vinnie or what? Did they already begin improving the IR and gray uniformity?

It's bright enough for me too. If you set the OLED lights to 80 in daylight, I can't see anybody needing it much brighter. Though my other panel didn't go as bright as this one so there could be a disparity.

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It looks really good, but it's a little light. It becomes uniform the lighter in color it gets, with 5, 10, and 15% being the worst for me.

I may get another new panel before they discontinue these, as per all the luck it seems like all the recent owners are having.
It's hit a miss. The oldest panel is the one at Frys with 3000 hours with perfect grey scale even at 5 and 10 ire. The one I have is February, not perfect but pretty good and one other which I checked is a little better than mine but has a cluster of 3 blue sub-pixels out.

They explained it to me this way. 40% of the panels they build do not work which is very expensive. If they start throwing out panels with a few sub-pixels out or uniformity issues that almost never are visible the rate of good sets would be even lower raising the prices even further. Now imagine this same cost factor in the 65" and 77" sets.
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it does not need to be any brighter, current model is never dim in my torture living room. The looks are better in the new model and I bet the speakers will be also.
It needs to get considerably brighter if it's going to be able to manage pulse style motion handling well as well as it could.

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This can be reduced by adjusting the color it is not visible in content. No comparison to the horrible blooming of the 950B and the banding on the 900B. Find me the perfect TV and if you find it it more than likely will not be on planet earth.

I looked a ZT60 last week and would take a 65X900A over and preferred the picture of the F8500, nobody's eyes see things the same. But one constant theme from all the reviews is OLED is the best performing set. Funny how when I posted horrible banding on my Sony 900B you blamed it on my settings.

Your Sony bias is apparent from a mile away.
Are we back to that? I was simply commenting on a posted picture and what I said looked quite obvious on my monitor. This had nothing to do with Sonys, Panasonics, Samsungs, Toshibas or jellybeans. It was a comment on a posted picture. Man, Vegas, get a grip. If you disagree with something I'm saying, comment on WHAT I'm saying rather than attacking. Tell me where I was wrong about the colors I saw in that posted picture. Was there or wasn't there a pinkish color tint in various parts of that screen???

And where did I blame the banding in your Sony on your settings? I can't recall ever seeing banding going away as the result of changing settings. Further, may I remind you, I exchanged my Sony 929 for the newly released Sharp Elite BECAUSE OF BANDING. Earth to Vegas. Earth to Vegas, come in please.

Not to take anything away from OLED, but when you quote something like a review that mentions "arguably unmatched picture quality", do you know what that means? Do you understand the use of the word 'arguably'?

OLED IS class-leading in certain picture quality attributes, but not in ALL picture quality attributes. Despite your annoying attitude, the 77" OLED remains on my short list pending street pricing.
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I just cannot believe you critiqued the guys photo. It's ok to like Sony, I love them if I was guaranteed a good one i the lottery. Not worth getting into, i do agree with a lot of your post. I just didn't see the need to criticize the photo. OLED grey scales are very different, they actually fluctuate at 5-10 ire, they do not adjust evenly very easy. It Carries over into the whites also and may tint just the ends of the picture. Maybe a pro-calibration with experience can do a better job. In fact I would say more then a banding issue, it is a color temp balance issue, I have only seen on panel without it.

OLED is not perfect and never will, no human is perfect so we can never build a perfect product. I am amazed at how incredible even the least expensive 1080P set looks compared to a few years back.

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Can anyone help with the issue below?

I just hooked up a new receiver that supports arc
I want to watch netflix on my oled

When I launch netflix, it's still playing my cable audio(I only have 2 inputs into the receiver, cable and xbox)
I set the tv to arc and the receiver to arc, but I guess they aren't reading each other
I guess I could just play netflix on my xbox, but it's easier on my tv

Any ideas?
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I just cannot believe you critiqued the guys photo. It's ok to like Sony, I love them if I was guaranteed a good one i the lottery. Not worth getting into, i do agree with a lot of your post. I just didn't see the need to criticize the photo. OLED grey scales are very different, they actually fluctuate at 5-10 ire, they do not adjust evenly very easy. It Carries over into the whites also and may tint just the ends of the picture. Maybe a pro-calibration with experience can do a better job. In fact I would say more then a banding issue, it is a color temp balance issue, I have only seen on panel without it.

OLED is not perfect and never will, no human is perfect so we can never build a perfect product. I am amazed at how incredible even the least expensive 1080P set looks compared to a few years back.
Let's try this one more time Vegas because you seem to be having trouble understanding what I'm saying. Can you understand that my comments had nothing to do with Sony? Can you understand I do not own a Sony and haven't had one as my primary viewing display for years and years? Can you understand that my last several primary viewing displays have been Samsung, Sharp and Pioneer? Do you see the name Sony in that mix?

You can persist with your implications that my comments here have something to do with being a Sony fanboy, if that makes you feel better. If that works for you, great, but it really makes you look a bit silly. In fact, it seems to be almost impossible for you to comment on any display without YOU mentioning Sony.

Do you notice you're the ONLY owner here that responds to my comments in this manner? Do you notice that other owners respond logically and without accusations?

Again, tell me where my comment on that picture was incorrect. Was there or wasn't there tinges of pink in exactly the areas I said there was? If these areas were resulting from room reflections, then that's great, but I would have had no way of knowing that in advance.

Don't take it personally when I critique someone's photo. If someone posts a picture, I can only assume they're looking for feedback. That's the way it works in other threads and that's the way it's worked on AVS since pictures were posted.
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