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So... I'm trying to read through as many of these posts as I can, but I'm curious about its performance in various scenarios. I will be using this for Netflix, movies and gaming. Would it be good for console gaming, or is the input lag too high?

Either way, it looks like a fantastic display.
If your a casual gamer I don't think you will have a problem, might be slow for a gaming fanatic, there are tricks to reduce lag. I would wait for 2014 model to purchase. Best buys is pre-booking at a very reasonable price and other online sellers should be lower.
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In Gaming mode, the input lag is very acceptable according to my kids using Xbox One compared to other modes. I'm too old to see or feel any differences
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If your a casual gamer I don't think you will have a problem, might be slow for a gaming fanatic, there are tricks to reduce lag. I would wait for 2014 model to purchase. Best buys is pre-booking at a very reasonable price and other online sellers should be lower.
I would wait for the 2014 version, but I was hoping to get lucky and get the 2013 model once it dropped down to $3000 or so. I can't really go much higher than that. But maybe I'll wait for the 2014 to drop a lot, haha
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I would wait for the 2014 version, but I was hoping to get lucky and get the 2013 model once it dropped down to $3000 or so. I can't really go much higher than that. But maybe I'll wait for the 2014 to drop a lot, haha
Keep in mind that there is no guarantee that the later models will follow this particular model's price drop craziness.

BTW, Are you 100% ok with 2k resolution?
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So... I'm trying to read through as many of these posts as I can, but I'm curious about its performance in various scenarios. I will be using this for Netflix, movies and gaming. Would it be good for console gaming, or is the input lag too high?

Either way, it looks like a fantastic display.
I'm a hardcore gamer and play competitive online. I can honestly say that this is the best display I've owned for gaming other than my PC gaming monitor. When you play this in game mode, I can't detect any lag whatsoever. I'm sure it's there but not enough for me to notice.

It's kind of amazing how good this display makes even last gen console games look. I've been playing the Destiny beta on this beast and it was hard to concentrate as my jaw kept dropping to the floor. There's no content this tv can't handle and make it look the best it can possibly look. Ok, maybe I'm being too much of a fanboy but everything about this tv is fantastic. A little bit of yellow tint from extreme angles is the only issue I can see.

If you can find this tv for less than $3,000, I say jump on it. All of us on this board know from experience that waiting for the perfect display will only keeping you waiting forever because there is no such thing. Good luck!!!
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Yes this is driving me nuts! >
Wait for 55" 4k? Go to LCD or just jump on this? About ready to say "get off the fence. damn the torpedoes. and just order it!".
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Depends where you're coming from and what you're playing.
Having a 2013 Sony TV with 18 ms Inputlag I gave a 2013 Samsung TV a try which has 42 ms. Played some Halo 4, Dragon's Crown and Wipeout HD.
40+ ms isn't really fun if you're used to one of the Sonys. The difference was very noticeable to me, but you can still manage, which is what I'll try to do with one of the new OLED sets. I only hope that those don't have even higher lag than the 55 ms of the EA9800.

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BTW, Are you 100% ok with 2k resolution?
Or do you prefer upscaled 2k
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Or do you prefer upscaled 2k
The 2K upscaling I've seen is fantastic, but either way that's just now. 4K content is likely going to show up sooner or later, which isn't a possibility to outright ignore. Plus IME, TVs often become repurposed as gaming or computer displays later on in which case having 4K might be something you're glad to have.

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Yes this is driving me nuts! > http://youtu.be/OOgpMCks46E Wait for 55" 4k? Go to LCD or just jump on this? About ready to say "get off the fence. damn the torpedoes. and just order it!".

If 55" is your size 4K will offer little in visual advantage. Most agree 65" and up and 65" is kind of small to appreciate 4k compared to the 79 & 78" screens. Make sure you purchase a warranty with OLED 3 years should get you past any unforeseen issues. 55" and where prices are OLED would be my choice. If you go 4K I would consider a 65", you will not regret going bigger.
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4K content is likely going to show up sooner or later, which isn't a possibility to outright ignore.
You mean 2k content that's been upscaled to UHD prior to consumer delivery instead of after?
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Or do you prefer upscaled 2k
Yes, I am fine with 2K, as I know it will take a super long time, if ever, for 4K content to start really being pushed. Even so, I value the color accuracy and darkness of the blacks on OLED displays far more than I'm interested in 4K resolution. Though I'd prefer a flat OLED at around this size, I'm going to jump on the curved display as soon as I can afford it (c'mon, paycheck! Hurry up!)
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Depends where you're coming from and what you're playing.
Having a 2013 Sony TV with 18 ms Inputlag I gave a 2013 Samsung TV a try which has 42 ms. Played some Halo 4, Dragon's Crown and Wipeout HD.
40+ ms isn't really fun if you're used to one of the Sonys. The difference was very noticeable to me, but you can still manage, which is what I'll try to do with one of the new OLED sets. I only hope that those don't have even higher lag than the 55 ms of the EA9800.
That's the thing. I've never ran tests with equipment to tell me what the input lag is. I'm only going by my eyes and hands. I've owned many many displays as my wife can attest (begrudgingly I might add) and that includes a Sony 55HX850. I still "feel" like the response time on the OLED is better. Maybe it's my mind playing tricks on me because of the Beautfiul image :-)

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The 2K upscaling I've seen is fantastic, but either way that's just now. 4K content is likely going to show up sooner or later, which isn't a possibility to outright ignore. Plus IME, TVs often become repurposed as gaming or computer displays later on in which case having 4K might be something you're glad to have.
I agree with you
4k reminds me a lot of the new generation of gaming systems that came out(xbox1)
Fresh new hardware with little to play on it, I can have more fun with my 360 as there is a larger library
I should have waited until it has been out awhile, probably could have bought the system for cheaper and there would be more to play on it
There's no doubt 4k is coming, but there's not a lot of content and we don't know when it will start pouring in, might wait, and wait until prices comes down and content goes up
Only difference between the 4k and xbox1 is that4k is backwards compatable
For hd, I doubt you can get a better picture than what oled provides
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If 55" is your size 4K will offer little in visual advantage. Most agree 65" and up and 65" is kind of small to appreciate 4k compared to the 79 & 78" screens. Make sure you purchase a warranty with OLED 3 years should get you past any unforeseen issues. 55" and where prices are OLED would be my choice. If you go 4K I would consider a 65", you will not regret going bigger.
We've heard all that before. 65" 4k OLED will be far too expensive. Besides, we have a small living room, sit closer to the tv than most and we're seniors. Already measured and determined 55" is as big as we want to go and still make good use of our dedicated entertainment center. Coming from a '08 40" Sammy LN40A750. 55" will seem huge. Went to Paul's TV and Best Buy and checked out their 55" 4K LCD sets and we could really tell the difference even from twice our normal viewing distance. So I don't want to hear about it anymore. Most of you are younger with viewing rooms twice if not three times larger than ours.
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We've heard all that before. 65" 4k OLED will be far too expensive. Besides, we have a small living room, sit closer to the tv than most and we're seniors. Already measured and determined 55" is as big as we want to go and still make good use of our dedicated entertainment center. Coming from a '08 40" Sammy LN40A750. 55" will seem huge. Went to Paul's TV and Best Buy and checked out their 55" 4K LCD sets and we could really tell the difference even from twice our normal viewing distance. So I don't want to hear about it anymore. Most of you are younger with viewing rooms twice if not three times larger than ours.
If you run the 4k videos on a plasma or OLED they are in 1080p and in my opinion look better than on an LCD. I have seen the F8500 and OLED's absolutely destroy a 4k that was supposed to be upgrading the same content to 4k. In the end you have to get what you like best, trying to please the people on this forum won't make you happy.

An OLED will make everything you watch look better right now. Every video game I have played on the 900B (my favorite 4K), looks better to me on my OLED. It makes my ps4 look like I knew it could. I am very happy with my 55" OLED.

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If you run the 4k videos on a plasma or OLED they are in 1080p and in my opinion look better than on an LCD. I have seen the F8500 and OLED's absolutely destroy a 4k that was supposed to be upgrading the same content to 4k. In the end you have to get what you like best, trying to please the people on this forum won't make you happy.

An OLED will make everything you watch look better right now. Every video game I have played on the 900B (my favorite 4K), looks better to me on my OLED. It makes my ps4 look like I knew it could.
Yes thank you. Will take a good look at the EC9300 when it comes out and the price drops a bit. Would make me a nice birthday present.
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Yes thank you. Will take a good look at the EC9300 when it comes out and the price drops a bit. Would make me a nice birthday present.
There is a sponsor of this forum who might be able to give you a better deal on the current set. In the end purchase what your gut says I like this picture the most, too many opinions can just confuse you.
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If you're a serious gamer, I would not bother waiting for 4K. The vast majority of 4K sets have huge input lag problems because of the additional processing and scaling required to display 720p or 1080p content.
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There is a sponsor of this forum who might be able to give you a better deal on the current set. In the end purchase what your gut says I like this picture the most, too many opinions can just confuse you.
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1080p on a Oled looks good but the world shifting to 4k as almost all calls it. And at this time i wouldt go for another exspensive 1080p tv thats "outdated" in peoples minds in a few years .
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Update on my Oled it started to fail on me after 1000hours multiple stuck n dead pixeles. I got with a good fight my money refunded by the dealer. So its gone. Seems 1000 hours was the hour that the problem started.
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I see the new EC9300 has a 10 bit panel. The current sets are 8 bit.
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I see the new EC9300 has a 10 bit panel. The current sets are 8 bit.
I hear these panels already look fantastic, though. I'm genuinely curious - will that make a big difference in picture quality? I don't know much about the 8-bit vs 10-bit debate
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I was hoping the 77" was going to be the flexible one also, but in the CES footage they have a 77" that is fixed next to the flexible one. So I guess we still have to wait if we want a large format flat OLED. Just hope OLED sticks around long enough to get them flat and cheap.
Would be sweet to have the motorized unit, but I do not think that is going to happen..... I "think" it will be curved.
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If you're a serious gamer, I would not bother waiting for 4K. The vast majority of 4K sets have huge input lag problems because of the additional processing and scaling required to display 720p or 1080p content.
In the marketing for the 4K Toshiba 65L9400U they claim to have a Turbo Game mode with only 10ms of lag. Which if true would make it the fastest large format 4K or 2K display you could buy.
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I hear these panels already look fantastic, though. I'm genuinely curious - will that make a big difference in picture quality? I don't know much about the 8-bit vs 10-bit debate
Not an expert here but I believe this will matter more with future 4K broadcast. The current set and Sony 900b have such great cold and are both 8 bit.
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1080p on a Oled looks good but the world shifting to 4k as almost all calls it. And at this time i wouldt go for another exspensive 1080p tv thats "outdated" in peoples minds in a few years .
Seems to me that 4k adoption is going even slower than anticipated.

Another thing, even 2k TVs will benefit from 4k content. Someone made the argument here that downscaling 4k content in 4:2:0 will get you the color resolution of 4:4:4 1080p.
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1080p on a Oled looks good but the world shifting to 4k as almost all calls it. And at this time i wouldt go for another exspensive 1080p tv thats "outdated" in peoples minds in a few years .
vak, im going to go out on a limb here and say your 55' was taken back in anticipation of getting the 65' 4k oled
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Another thing, even 2k TVs will benefit from 4k content. Someone made the argument here that downscaling 4k content in 4:2:0 will get you the color resolution of 4:4:4 1080p.
Chron and I have been saying that for a while now. He was first to say it I think.

And that's correct, if they do it properly, and if there is hardware to do it (God I hope so). 4:2:0 has half the chroma information in both directions (but all the luma). If you supply information at twice the linear resolution in each axis (4K), you end up with the 4K's 4:2:0 theoretically having enough chroma information for 2K 4:4:4. You will absolutely see an improvement on a 2K set assuming that the 4K isn't horrendously compressed for other reasons. So I'm looking forward to seeing just how much this will matter in real life.
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